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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: funkStrat_97 on August 08, 2012, 05:17:30 PM
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Inspired by the "Genres of Music" tread, the purpose of this thread will be to share with the mostly gospel listening community some of your favorite CCM/P&W songs that may broaden your listening palette. First up for your consideration: "The Hurt and The Healer" by Mercy Me
MercyMe - The Hurt and The Healer (Official Music Video) - Music Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M19k7a0DvAc#ws)
Enjoy!
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Awesome, Funk!
I will sing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W1EdvUfaRY#)
An oldie but goodie. :)
Be careful not to go totally in. :)
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All Things New Free Chapel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnC3IdX8WVA#ws)
Funk, do you know these guys? Awesome stuff!
Oh and I address Funk because don't NONE o' ya'll know anything 'bout this. :D
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Funk, do you know these guys? Awesome stuff!
Oh and I address Funk because don't NONE o' ya'll know anything 'bout this. :D
We actually have some of their music in our worship set.
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Revelation Song by Gateway worship featuring Kari Jobe. To me it's the "more than anything" of CCM. Will put link up when I'm home.
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Revelation Song by Gateway worship featuring Kari Jobe. To me it's the "more than anything" of CCM. Will put link up when I'm home.
While I like the song, I'll leave you to your opinion.
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Jeremy camp - "Overcome"
Jeremy Camp - Overcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AB0vUU038#ws)
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The entire "Beautiful Things" album by Michael Gungor, Echo by Free Chapel
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Funk, do you know these guys? Awesome stuff!
Oh and I address Funk because don't NONE o' ya'll know anything 'bout this. :D
We played that song a few Sundays ago :).
SHEKINAH GLORY (We wait for You) - Jaye Thomas & Cory Asbury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBePym9g3w#)
When I tell you our church goes IN on this? Everybody gets hype from the intro. We flip a little of the words near the end. Our worship leader is good at flowing in improv.
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Eh, since I got no reply, I'll just leave these here.
This is the CCM thread my friend. All genres of CCM are welcomed. Here's a blast from the past for you!
"Deeper" - Delirious
Delirious - Deeper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_0mOBIp14#)
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Of course, this would be completely pointless without a little dcTalk. Here they are with "Between You and Me"
DC Talk - Between You And Me (Official Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXJdshVNq0#)
....and you can't forget The News Boys: "Take Me to Your Leader"
Newsboys - Take Me To Your Leader (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJUeb3fZEE#)
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We played that song a few Sundays ago :).
SHEKINAH GLORY (We wait for You) - Jaye Thomas & Cory Asbury ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faBePym9g3w#[/url])
When I tell you our church goes IN on this? Everybody gets hype from the intro. We flip a little of the words near the end. Our worship leader is good at flowing in improv.
OK, at about 0:57 to 0:59 or so, the guy does a chromatic vocal run, thus this video fails the CCM test.
Funk, Sketch, am I right? :)
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I swear our keyboardist sounds just like this dude when he sings this.
No Other Name by Freddy Rodriguez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMJJ30cc87s#ws)
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The Michael Gungor Band: Ancient Skies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em-AqPLW3Ug#)
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I love this thread!
One of my favorite Christian guitarists: Tommy Walker.
I Believe I Believe - Tommy Walker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LWOxFw2Wwc#)
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I love this thread!
One of my favorite Christian guitarists: Tommy Walker.
I Believe I Believe - Tommy Walker ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LWOxFw2Wwc#[/url])
Have you ever heard his older stuff?
We used to do this one at my church:
There Is A Rock by Tommy Walker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f4TDo3zDzE#)
And this one:
Only A God Like You - Tommy walker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6O8blhOpQY#)
This is one of Tommy's songs that Crystal Lewis covered. My wife was actually one of the first people to ever sing it at church right after Tommy wrote it. He asked her during rehearsal to give it a shot. Good times...
"Lord I Believe In You." Crystal Lewis`The original video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrVMHI9UO9U#)
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"Only a God like you" is a standard at my church. :)
You played with Tommy?! Your awesomeness increases by the minute.
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"Only a God like you" is a standard at my church. :)
You played with Tommy?! Your awesomeness increases by the minute.
Ha! ;D
I went to his church for about 7 years and, yes, I played with him and eventually subbed for him a few times when he was playing various Promise Keepers and Harvest Crusade events.
Back on topic...this is a newer song that we've been doing at my church:
Furious - Jeremy Riddle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_607cloIEv0#)
And this one is pretty much an anthem for my church these days:
New Life Worship - Great I Am (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5CWGi82N7k#ws)
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Perhaps the greatest Christian rock anthem of all time????
dcTalk- Jesus Freak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6gkyRcZ3lA#)
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My girl Mandisa with "Stronger" (Live in the Studio version):
Mandisa - Stronger (Live In The Studio) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2Hdh7cvA#ws)
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Not feelin' that music video -- designed by the same guy who did a Marilyn Manson video -- tho'...
The video isn't the greatest, but it's the song itself that has made a lasting impression on many young Christians who came to faith in Jesus during the 90's. As for the video's producer - I've read a piece by someone who opposes CCM as being Satanic who blasted dcTalk on this point. Hmmm......still a great song though.
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Here are a couple of old school jams that show how diverse the music was at the time.
The W's - 'The Devil is Bad'
The W's - The Devil Is Bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLO2-_emvDY#)
The O.C. Supertones - 'Little Man'
The O.C. Supertones - Little Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLRlmqtMsYI#)
Michael W. Smith - 'Love Me Good'
Michael W. Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdYfcvZBtgI#)
Also; some of these older songs are not as overtly Christian compared to today where you have everybody and their mother coming out with another worship album - and often covering the same songs. Perhaps this aspect of the current state of affairs of the Christian music industry further highlights how praise music has effectively replaced hymns as the de-facto standard of Christian worship.
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funk! Was the Michael W Smith? Dang! :o
I think I like the old MWS. :)
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Are we still talking about CCM? :)
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Man, haven't heard The W's in forever. O.C. Supertones... I miss them. =( They should have stuck to ska.Nah, man. Nah. LOL. That hasn't changed at all. You need to check out everybody and their 2nd cousin instead, lol.
M. W. Smith looks like Lou Costello. Also, wow... the video puts a totally different perspective on that song than I've had all these years. Wow.
Maybe somebody should post something more modern "mainstream". Ain't nobody know 'bout this pre-03 music. But... until then... lol
ZoeGirl - I Believe (With Lyrics) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkjXh-UBjQ8#[/url])
Five Iron Frenzy - Dandelions (HD) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmFyjfksXpw#ws[/url])
I won't post it here, but Ska-Reggae-Rock-Jazz Fusion band "Earthsuit" were pretty cool with the music. I used to listen to "One Time" and "Whitehorse" all the time, lol.
The lady on the left end, she is the wife of one of guys in the group Katinas, I was telling ya'll about. *just figured I let ya'll know..lol
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One issue that has come up during the rise of CCM was that of racism and what impact it may or may not have had on the success of so-called "urban" artists. There are some gospel artists who have had and continue to have a sort of universal appeal across the Christian music market place (artists such as Mandisa, Nicole C. Mullen and Ayesha Woods don't seem to have as mcuh "reverse" crossover success, but this is an unverified statement). Cece Winans, Ron Kenoly, and to some extent Andre Crouch are a few that come to mind. This issue has been addressed directly by dcTalk (E.R.A.C.E. (http://www.erace.com/about/history.shtml)) and even Toby Mac himself has stated that he feels racism has kept many listeners from exploring hip-hop and R&B sounds.
Of course others feel that it's really just a matter of musical preferences or demographics. I suppose they do have a point (and I mostly agree), but one has to wonder why secular hip-hop has been embraced by suburbia (i.e.; "white folks"), while the Christian music scene seems highly segregated - you know what they say about Sunday mornings in America.
Over the years, there have been efforts to try and bridge this gap with artists such as Anointed, Out of Eden, The Katinas, GRITS and Knowdaverbs. There was even a collaborative compilation titled "Bridges" that had only one song that got some airplay on gospel stations ("There's a Place For Us" performed by Fred Hammond and Natalie Grant). But it seems that these efforts have more or less fell by the wayside as the Church continues to be set in its ways.
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I won't post it here, but Ska-Reggae-Rock-Jazz Fusion band "Earthsuit" were pretty cool with the music. I used to listen to "One Time" and "Whitehorse" all the time, lol.
Man, I LOVED Earthsuit!! They were a great fusion band, for sure.
fyi: they do live on (sort of) in a band called Mutemath, another of my favs.
Here's one of the older songs...
Mute Math - Typical - The Late Show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4r6M22oTao#ws)
And something off their newest disc:
Mutemath - Allies [Official Music Video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwUrEreThM#ws)
They can GROOVE!
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Haha, this is my first time actually hearing the song all the way through. Talk abot "me centered" lyrics, lol.
And yet they're all based in Scripture...
And I have little care that a band drops the "Christian" label. Actually, it's a great way to market their music to a non-Christian audience who wouldn't otherwise hear the message in the lyrics.
Sadly, being a "Christian band" in this day and age means limited marketing, limited exposure and limited ability to go 'to the ends of the earth' with the Gospel simply because music business type people think you only belong in Christian bookstores, on Christian radio and only playing Christian events.
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And yet they're all based in Scripture...
And I have little care that a band drops the "Christian" label. Actually, it's a great way to market their music to a non-Christian audience who wouldn't otherwise hear the message in the lyrics.
Sadly, being a "Christian band" in this day and age means limited marketing, limited exposure and limited ability to go 'to the ends of the earth' with the Gospel simply because music business type people think you only belong in Christian bookstores, on Christian radio and only playing Christian events.
Isn't that, like, preaching to the choir?
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And yet they're all based in Scripture...
And I have little care that a band drops the "Christian" label. Actually, it's a great way to market their music to a non-Christian audience who wouldn't otherwise hear the message in the lyrics.
Sadly, being a "Christian band" in this day and age means limited marketing, limited exposure and limited ability to go 'to the ends of the earth' with the Gospel simply because music business type people think you only belong in Christian bookstores, on Christian radio and only playing Christian events.
Yeah, I saw it as more of a confession/profession. I was diggin' it.
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And I have little care that a band drops the "Christian" label. Actually, it's a great way to market their music to a non-Christian audience who wouldn't otherwise hear the message in the lyrics.
Sadly, being a "Christian band" in this day and age means limited marketing, limited exposure and limited ability to go 'to the ends of the earth' with the Gospel simply because music business type people think you only belong in Christian bookstores, on Christian radio and only playing Christian events.
CCM is a niche market. Although it is based on more or less current musical trend, it has a very narrow appeal. Some have even suggested that we stop calling it CCM and just put it out there in the general music market.
Isn't that, like, preaching to the choir?
....or taking water to the sea.
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I guess I'm at a place where I don't need the Christian bands/musicians that I enjoy have to make every song a praise song that mentions Jesus specifically by name in a positive context.
Honestly, outside of music meant directly for worship, I really appreciate a variety of topics as long as the songs are not demoralizing or degrading in any fashion.
To me, this is what Mutemath does so well. They're a band of musicians who are Christian who perform good music. Not praise music...although every album seems to have some metaphorical praise song on it...but just good music.
Benjamin Gate was another great band. The lead singer is now married to Jeremy Camp and she regularly sings back-up vocals for him live.
Another great artist that I really dig is Sarah Macintosh. She's the former lead singer for Chasing Furies and the only one of the 2 sisters and 1 brother who has sort of stayed active in music:
SARAH MACINTOSH: "Current" - Live Performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMugKkol20g#ws)
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The Katinaaas!!
live@New Hope "Home" feat. The Katinas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJGKUHnMUBE#ws)
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the Katinas and Freeway Fifty - great collab of today's CCM.
I AM FREE // Capital Christian Center's Simply Worship with Katinas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnRSZmp6fBg#ws)
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Perhaps the most underrated artist of our day - Ayiesha Woods! Here she is with "Beauty"
Ayiesha Woods- Beauty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOY2gJCbM-o#)
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Dig her voice and songs. :)
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This one's a favorite at our house.
Newsboys - God's Not Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_OTz-lpDjw#ws)
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It's weird hearing "Newsboys" without an Aussie accent. lol. It just sounds like "Tait" now. Still cool, though.
It was a good move for Michael Tait, though. Through their various incarnations, the Newsboys continue to draw fans$$$$
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This one's a personal favorite. Sanctus Real - "Lead Me"
Sanctus Real - Lead Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLr6G8Xy5uc#ws)
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This one's a favorite at our house.
Newsboys - God's Not Dead ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_OTz-lpDjw#ws[/url])
Ugh...that's my least favorite version of the song. The Crowder/Passion version is a lot more daring and dynamic.
Regarding Aussies in the band...the drummer is the only one left. And they don't even have a bass player. It's all synth or tracks bass.
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Ugh...that's my least favorite version of the song. The Crowder/Passion version is a lot more daring and dynamic.
Regarding Aussies in the band...the drummer is the only one left. And they don't even have a bass player. It's all synth or tracks bass.
Well, you can blame the kids for that.....ok, not totally because I actually like this version but all three of my girls love it. Ever since Phil Joel left, they band has been bass-less. I think Joel now plays guitar with Peter Furler.
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Perhaps the most underrated artist of our day - Ayiesha Woods! Here she is with "Beauty"
Ayiesha Woods- Beauty ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOY2gJCbM-o#[/url])
my wife said she liked this one ... we might end up buying soome of her music for family.
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This is my favorite song from Lincoln Brewster's latest CD; "I Belong To You"
Lincoln Brewster I Belong To You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUEZBvIf4IE#)
And here he is again with the John Mayer influenced "Arms (with an "s") of My Savior"
The Arm of My Savior (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXn-iwOHWMY#)
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God of this City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmC44K0xQLE#)
Been on rotation this whole weekend.
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YEEEESSSUUH!!!
*Looking up David Crowder version*
It just doesn't feel like the Newsboys without the accent... and with the change in musical style, even less so. =\
It's pretty neat that they're able to function without a bass player, though. I really liked "Something Beautiful". Phil Joel was my favorite Newsie (I wonder if he'll ever cut his hair) =(. I was sad when he left, but he made some pretty cool music when he did. He wrote/lead most of my favorite Newsboys songs, I think.
LOL, when they came out with Tait's version of "Glorious" I took that and the original version and mashed them together, with Tait's track panned to one channel, and Furler's to the other. Called it "Tait vs. Furler"... I'd meant to upload it to youtube waaay back when, but I never got the chance...
It was pretty funny hearing them sing together like that... lol
I liked Micheal Tait w/ dc talk and liked some of his solo stuff, too.
I saw Newsboys live 2 years ago when he first joined and they're still decent and put on a cool show, but, like you, I'm a fan of the Furler/Joel era, especially "Step Up to the Microphone". That CD is just amazing to me. Almost progressive rock in some ways.
The new stuff I just don't dig.
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Just came across this one.
My Redeemer Lives - Hillsong w/ lyrics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj_BvlYFyEg#[/url])
*sigh* The Darlene Zschech era had so much soul... Where did it go? =(
We've done this song a few times at church....it's been a while though.
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My goodness, I actually can't stand Darlene's voice.
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How He Loves by David Crowder Band
That song has been lighting our church on fire.
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How He Loves by David Crowder Band
That song has been lighting our church on fire.
...and speaking of David Crowder:
David Crowder*Band - Foreverandever Etc... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4JBhmdUunA#)
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BTW, what is an ancient sky, and what does it mean to ride one?
Can't tell if that's a sincere question but I'll give it a sincere answer--I'll try to be brief as I could dedicate pages to this topic alone. :)
I've always assumed the song was a reference to Daniel 7 (some other verses as well); possibly THE most important passage to a Christian.
The "rider of the clouds" title was one of Baal but was also used as a polemic by the Biblical writers. So anyone reading Daniel 7 would've known deity was involved anytime that phrase or a variant was used.
Daniel 7:
"13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed."
So the "son of man" approaches the Ancient of Days (Yahweh), meaning the two aren't the same, yet this "son of man" is given the title of deity!
It's scenes like this one (and there are others) that caused the Jews, especially during the inter-testimental period, to speculate over the idea of a 2nd Yahweh. This idea was not deemed heretical until 2nd-3rd century AD.
With this in mind, when Jesus was arrested for blasphemy and the high priest asks him if he is the Messiah, Jesus answers by quoting Dan 7.
And they respond with: “He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy."
It was viewed as blasphemy because Jesus was identifying himself as the cloud rider, which by extension meant he was calling himself God.
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Well it appears that former dcTalk member Kevin Max has followed in the footsteps of his fellow former colleague Michael Tait by becoming the new lead singer for the band Audio Adrenaline. (http://cmusicnews.tumblr.com/post/28507398128/kevin-max-new-lead-singer-of-audio-adrenaline)
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Does "riding the ancient skies" as opposed to "riding the skies" show that God has always been while Baal is just a man-made thing?
Yep.
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We're doing "Ancient Skies" this weekend...by request, even.
Another new song that my church has been singing lately is actually a CCM "hit" that came to me via one of my guitar students:
Love Is Here - Tenth Avenue North (Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLy-B9LuqMo#)
Did I post this already?
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...and speaking of David Crowder:
David Crowder*Band - Foreverandever Etc... ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4JBhmdUunA#[/url])
Cool video and a nice song. Love the nod to Voltron.
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It is. With a smile.
Unfortunately, the rest of your post still doesn't answer my question, really. I understand the significance of it, putting Jesus above Baal. "Baal may ride the sky, but God rides the ANCIENT skies."
Does "riding the ancient skies" as opposed to "riding the skies" show that God has always been while Baal is just a man-made thing?
It could.
I'm not sure if Gungor was trying to make a deep theological statement with the song though; he may not even be aware of the Baal connection.
I think he was just using a familiar biblical phrase.
I think it's probably as simple as that; I just wanted to point out the phrases origin and it's implications. :)
To the thread topic, I haven't seen mentioned Nothing Is Impossible by Planetshakers with Israel Houghton.
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To the thread topic, I haven't seen mentioned Nothing Is Impossible by Planetshakers with Israel Houghton.
Post something :)
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Another blast from the past. here's Zoe Girl - "With All of My Heart"
ZOEgirl- With All My Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llChwQ905Rc#)
This again illustrates the fact that CCM is not a specific style of music. In fact, it's the lyrics that make CCM what it is. So when you have lots of people buying urbanized pop music in the mainstream, there will be a Christianized alternative out there as well. Another example of how CCM is just one monolithic musical forum is Bob Carlisle's song "In The Hands of Jesus"....it's pretty much a gospel song.
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Two offerings from Casting Crowns -
Until The Whole World Hears:
Casting Crowns #1 Until The Whole World Hears (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIMHHAln4M#)
Courageous:
Casting Crowns - Courageous [Official Music Video - HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkM-gDcmJeM#ws)
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Two offerings from Casting Crowns -
Until The Whole World Hears:
Casting Crowns #1 Until The Whole World Hears ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIMHHAln4M#[/url])
Courageous:
Casting Crowns - Courageous [Official Music Video - HD] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkM-gDcmJeM#ws[/url])
LOVE these two songs.
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Here's "White Flag" from Chris Tomlin:
Chris Tomlin - White Flag - Passion 2012 - YouTube.flv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5k7GUTRZ8#ws)
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I love this song. I love when we play it too. Im listening to alot of these, and they dont sound like how we play it, even though we follow the same format/style. Maybe that may have to do with the fact that aside from three other musicians, me, the drummer, and the MD (keys) are heavy gospel cats. It never really sounds like the original.
Jesus Culture Chris Quilala - Burning Ones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDZtXmVZtFg#ws)
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Does this count?
Fill Me - Martha Munizzi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-9mON7EmA#ws)
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Here's "White Flag" from Chris Tomlin:
I just can't get into that one. Tried listening to it several times and it's just not doin' it for me.
Instead, this one has got my ear and we'll be doing it at church soon:
Hillsong Live - Cornerstone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWHgvkEPJiQ#ws)
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I love this song. I love when we play it too. Im listening to alot of these, and they dont sound like how we play it, even though we follow the same format/style. Maybe that may have to do with the fact that aside from three other musicians, me, the drummer, and the MD (keys) are heavy gospel cats. It never really sounds like the original.
Being able to nail different styles of music and sound authentic takes a bit of practice, listening and emulation. I've heard gospel artists do rock songs and it sounds like a motif but the gospel in them is still there. There's more to playing rock than just turning up the guitars with a distortion pedal pushing a combo amp and playing some form of the I-IV-VI-V chord progression. You need to learn the voicings riffs, and idioms of that style otherwise you end up with R&B marinated with a little hard rock sauce.
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Being able to nail different styles of music and sound authentic takes a bit of practice, listening and emulation. I've heard gospel artists do rock songs and it sounds like a motif but the gospel in them is still there. There's more to playing rock than just turning up the guitars with a distortion pedal pushing a combo amp and playing some form of the I-IV-VI-V chord progression. You need to learn the voicings riffs, and idioms of that style otherwise you end up with R&B marinated with a little hard rock sauce.
AMEN!
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the little things make a huge difference in music
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Being able to nail different styles of music and sound authentic takes a bit of practice, listening and emulation. I've heard gospel artists do rock songs and it sounds like a motif but the gospel in them is still there. There's more to playing rock than just turning up the guitars with a distortion pedal pushing a combo amp and playing some form of the I-IV-VI-V chord progression. You need to learn the voicings riffs, and idioms of that style otherwise you end up with R&B marinated with a little hard rock sauce.
Hmmm. Im well aware of this. I actually play rock (and almost every other style BUT gospel) everyday. Our guitar player is a rock guitarist as well. I know I said we are gospel cats, but it doesnt sound like gospel musicians trying to play something else. We cop everything about the song, we just have a different sound. :)
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FFH was one of my favorite bands of all time. They have since disbanded, but here they are with "One Of These Days" -
FFH - One of These Days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHdSgQVIb5c#)
I remember hearing one of their songs on what was at the time, the only black gospel station that you could actually pick up on the air in the DC Metro area (it was an AM station at that). I was so impressed that I had to write the program director an e-Mail to express my appreciation.
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Congratulations to Toby Mac!
For the first time in 15 years, a Christian artist has topped the Billboard charts! (http://observer.com/2012/09/christian-album-by-tobymac-tops-charts-first-times-in-15-years-video/)
"Eye On It"
Toby mac- Eye On It Full Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHweNVxk0A#ws)
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Eh... uh... Hmm.... no comment. ::)
I don't have a comment on this song either other than it's selling like hotcakes. But one song from his new album that I've been hearing a lot of is "Me Without You".
Me Without You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qGa5rIOB28#ws)
Gungor "You Are The Beauty"
palette cleanser, ;P
One line in this song, which I feel was a bit random, caught me off guard, lol. It's all good, though.
Now that is something a little different; haven't heard this song before. Our local station has their song "You Make Beautiful Things" is in regular rotation.
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News Flash: Barlow Girl is done.
Barlow Girl to Retire (http://www.barlowgirl.com/blog/barlowgirl/letter-us-you)
Not a fan of them (liked a couple of their songs though), but they have been in the industry for quite a while.
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I saw BarlowGirl live a couple years ago...just the three of them...and they're the real deal as far as talent goes.
They all sing and play very well and put on a good show.
And help me, Lord, as my crush on Becca Barlow needs to remain as holy and righteous as possible for this happily married man... ;D
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I can't seem to get this song out of my head;
For King & Country - "The Proof of Your Love"
The Proof of Your Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2dKOfbC9c#ws)
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I can't seem to get this song out of my head;
For King & Country - "The Proof of Your Love"
The Proof of Your Love ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2dKOfbC9c#ws[/url])
Dunno how someone will listen to a song like this and not like CCM. :)
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Dunno how someone will listen to a song like this and not like CCM. :)
Of course, not all CCM is created equally.
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Here are a couple songs that I'll be bringing into church soon...
I Call You Jesus
Israel Houghton - I Call You Jesus 07/01/12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etMfFWAPnFM#ws)
Manifesto
The City Harmonic - Manifesto (OFFICIAL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_6JQDsbtlM#ws)
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gtrdave, thanks for the link to "Israel Houghton - I Call You Jesus" - has potential for our Praise Team...
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I'm sure he's not the first/only one, but I love Israel's acoustic tones with what I assume is a piezo installed on his semi-acoustic. It sounds so natural. Sounds better than most big-body electro-acoustics I've heard. Seeing as how Gungor and Houghton are such great friends, I kind of wish the former would pick up a few tone tips from the latter...
>_>
I've searched around, but I haven't found anything online that runs down his guitar setup. =( I found [url]http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/israel-houghton,[/url] ([url]http://www.taylorguitars.com/artists/israel-houghton,[/url]) but it doesn't go in depth.
Seems to me that he changes guitars often.
He was using Gibsons for years and then was using McPhereson acoustics and now I see him w/ Taylors and what looks like HD500 pedalboards.
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So; after having just announced the departure of Barlow Girl........Pillar is coming back!
Christian Rock Band, Pillar Announces Reunite. (http://www.cmspin.com/newsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=6768&z=54)
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So; after having just announced the departure of Barlow Girl........Pillar is coming back!
Christian Rock Band, Pillar Announces Reunite. ([url]http://www.cmspin.com/newsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=6768&z=54[/url])
That's awesome news. I DIG Pillar. 8)
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Maybe it is something like the different uses of "rock" and "pop" in the US and UK but I don't see Pillar as CCM, even if their music is contemporary and Christian but rather Christian Rock.
While CCM is (or was supposed to be) an all-inclusive term, some genres have been more on the fringe. Such is the case with Christian hard rock and metal. They don't really fit the mold of "mainstream" CCM.
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Billboard Magazine's top 10 (and more) Christian songs for the week of November 10th.
Christian Songs - Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/charts/christian-songs#/charts/christian-songs)
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Old thread revival: This is a new one from Chris Tomlin - "Whom Shall I Fear (God of Angel Armies)":
Whom Shall I Fear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOkImV2cJDg#ws)
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For those who may be interested; singer-songwriter Bebo Norman will retire from everything music at the end of 2013 (http://www.todayschristianmusic.com/artists/bebo-norman/news/bebo-norman-set-to-retire-from-music-at-the-end-of-2013/). I'm not that familiar with his works, but he has been in the industry for quite some time.
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Here is the latest form Matthew West:
Hello My Name Is.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuJWQzjfU3o#ws)
Some people dismiss West as being a mediocre artist at best. I'm not really a fan of his, but I think his music is alright.
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Here's some sad news to pass along. Chase Lovelace, who has filled the drummer's chair for Pilar (2008 - 2009) and Super Chick (2009 - 2012), has died after battling a rare form of cancer.
RIP Chase (https://chaselovelace.org/)
Wow....when you see a young man like that just get taken out of here, you are once again reminded of how temporary this life is. Prayers and condolences to his family, friends, and band mates.
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I had to break out the Pledge to get the dust off this thread, but here's a new song that's become a favorite of mine. From The Afters - "Every Good Thing"
Every Good Thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY2ycrpbOlw#ws)
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Love this!!
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This is a very good thread.
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This is a new band (to me), but I've heard this song a few times on our local "family-friendly" format station. Seems like they're tryin' to make it a lil' funky.
Royal Taylor - "Make A Move"
Make A Move (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbELfw2H_Xc#ws)
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New from Mercy Me.........SHAKE!
"Shake" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8k40xj5Exk#ws)
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Here's a catchy track from Steven Curtis Chapman.
Love Take Me Over (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8DiZhNVu1I#ws)
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Steven Curtis has always been one of my favorites. It's something about his lyrics on a lot of his songs that really resonate with me.
I've always been a fan of CCM, but more so in the 90's when CCM was more rhythmic and diverse. It seems now that while the lyrics are more worshipful, the styles have become more guitar driven and ultimately less diverse. I appreciate artists like Mandisa (who would thrive in 90's CCM) and TobyMac who are keeping diversity alive in CCM
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Anyone remember this song. It was a CCM hit for Anointed almost 20 years ago...
Anointed - Send Out a Prayer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cR_blld-X8#)
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One of my all-time favorite CCM songs from Rich Mullins.
Rich Mullins Sometimes By Step (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAMRacZ0zHE#)
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Both of these songs moved me to tears the first time I heard them...
Laura Story - Blessings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CSVqHcdhXQ#)
He's always been faithful by Sara Groves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLfQ05Otk0#ws)
These songs didn't bring me to tears .. but I liked them from the first time I heard them.. They hooked me from the very first listen..
Defining Moment by Newsong.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF64-zFONzk#)
Newsong - Can't Keep A Good Man Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUvnx7NtE8#)
Chris Tomlin Indescribable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTvr755V8s#)
I Can Only Imagine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LonOTKVmkeo#)
God Of Wonders Third Day Worship Video w lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8XK2w7wmw#)
Sixpence None the Richer - With Every Breath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3e1f90XGhM#ws)
Lord I'm amazed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXr_InQktQ#ws)
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Both of these songs moved me to tears the first time I heard them...
Laura Story - Blessings ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CSVqHcdhXQ#[/url])
He's always been faithful by Sara Groves ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLfQ05Otk0#ws[/url])
These songs didn't bring me to tears .. but I liked them from the first time I heard them.. They hooked me from the very first listen..
Defining Moment by Newsong.wmv ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF64-zFONzk#[/url])
Newsong - Can't Keep A Good Man Down ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUvnx7NtE8#[/url])
Chris Tomlin Indescribable ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PTvr755V8s#[/url])
I Can Only Imagine ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LonOTKVmkeo#[/url])
God Of Wonders Third Day Worship Video w lyrics ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8XK2w7wmw#[/url])
Sixpence None the Richer - With Every Breath ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3e1f90XGhM#ws[/url])
Lord I'm amazed ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXr_InQktQ#ws[/url])
Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! You just changed one of my songs for this Sunday! That faithful joint by sara groves!
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Man has it been that long since Indescribable was new? It seems like just yesterday, haha. God of Wonders YES! Oh man I remember "Send Out A Prayer" maannnn I had a tape I recorded from the radio with that song on it. I used to listen to it all the time, haha. "With Every Breath" was one of my favorites.
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Don't forget about Mark Schultz and 4him.
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Don't forget about Mark Schultz and 4him.
I was a big 4Him fan and I have a lot of favorites from them. Mark Shultz had one of the most heart wrenching songs in "He's My Son".
He's My Son - Mark Schultz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBd-xzrNFkc#)
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I've always been a fan of CCM, but more so in the 90's when CCM was more rhythmic and diverse. It seems now that while the lyrics are more worshipful, the styles have become more guitar driven and ultimately less diverse. I appreciate artists like Mandisa (who would thrive in 90's CCM) and TobyMac who are keeping diversity alive in CCM
This is true. It seems to me that as the 2000's, CCM was following that 'urbanized-pop' sound. I recently picked up a copy of WOW Hits 2002 (for next to nothing) and a lot of songs had that R&B flavor added to. There were a few guitar-driven rock tunes, but most of the younger acts sounded a lot like their mainstream counterparts. In particular, Out of Eden's "Different Now" which has a strong Destiny's Child flavor.
Oh man I remember "Send Out A Prayer" maannnn I had a tape I recorded from the radio with that song on it. I used to listen to it all the time, haha.
I have that whole album ("The Call").....on tape no less :). Anointed has been a long time favorite of mine though I didn't really listen to much of their music after Nee-C Walls left the group. I really liked "Under the Influence" and "Anointed".
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I have that whole album ("The Call").....on tape no less :). Anointed has been a long time favorite of mine though I didn't really listen to much of their music after Nee-C Walls left the group. I really liked "Under the Influence" and "Anointed".
My favorites are The Call and Under The Influence. Something about the latter just makes it have a timeless feel to it. If they came out with the same CD today, it would sound just about as current and relevant as it did back then. What I liked about Anointed besides the message is that they gave just the right amount vocally in their songs. Not too much, not too little, and their voices blended well.
I haven't reviewed every page, but does anyone remember Jon Gibson? He was/is a CCM artist that had some really good songs that didn't always fit into the mold of most CCM at the time (lots of unconventional chord progressions/song arrangements, at least for CCM), and hiis voice is very similar to Stevie Wonder. Here is one of his more popular songs from back in the day...
Friend In You by Jon Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRw6AUm3nZ0#)
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is this considered CCM?
Jamie Grace - Beautiful Day (Official Lyric Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPy0ctqMwE0#ws)
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Definitely.
"... Yeah yeah yeah yeah..."
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I already posted one of my all-time favorite CCM songs (Send Out A Prayer). Just wanted to post some of my other all-timers...
Clay Crosse - He Walked A Mile (loved it on first listen)
Clay Crosse - He Walked a Mile in My Shoes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQVUqltN1qg#)
Rich Mullins - Awesome God (we all know this song, and this is the original recording. It (this rendition) still remains my favorite song of all time)!
Awesome God by Rich Mullins (w/lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU8MS6lGmE8#ws)
Jars of Clay - Worlds Apart (another favorite)
Jars Of Clay - Worlds Apart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZiH3iMuuE#ws)
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That Clay Crosse song - "He Walked A Mile In My shoes" - very powerful message. Several years ago there was a story in the news about this guy who accidentally ran over his daughter and her friend who were playing under a pile of leaves and that song always reminds me of him.
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One of my favorites was Scott krippaynes sometimes he calms the storm.
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One of my favorites was Scott krippaynes sometimes he calms the storm.
Love that song! And I was just thinking about Wild Imagination by the same artist. Those songs came out around the time when I first started seriously listening to CCM, and I remember them fondly for that reason. My favorite song by Scott Krippayne is You Have Been Good. Check that song out, it's a good one!
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Ah those were the days when ccm was good. I also liked darell evans so good to me
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is this considered CCM?
Jamie Grace - Beautiful Day (Official Lyric Video) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPy0ctqMwE0#ws[/url])
Did you know that she has Tourette's syndrome?
I'm A Fighter! (http://imafighter.org/jamiegraceair1/)
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Friend In You by Jon Gibson ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRw6AUm3nZ0#[/url])
Do...do I hear a cycle of fourths and...and DISSONANCE????? :o
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Do...do I hear a cycle of fourths and...and DISSONANCE????? :o
LOL! Yeah he incorporated a lot of that into many of his songs. He was part of the diversity that CCM had in the past.
Some other interesting facts about Jon Gibson (for those who care to know): He was the first CCM artist to incorporate Rap in their music. I've heard that more than once, so that's probably true. He also featured a song on his 1988 CD "Change Of Heart", called "The Wall", which featured a then unknown MC Hammer, before he hit his mainstream success. Look it up on YouTube if you're interested in hearing it, it's there. Friend In You, the one I posted earlier, is on the same album, as well as a remake of the secular song Ya Mo B There, and a duet with Crystal Lewis in her early days (Lost Inside Of You).
Here are a few more songs by Jon Gibson:
God Loves A Broken Heart (this is his first #1 radio single. It's upbeat, and the 80's vibe is strong with this one, but regardless of the time period, a great song is a great song.)
Jon Gibson - God Loves a Broken Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIkdebQjlk#)
From Heaven (Always LOVED the music/chords in this one. Also he did a lot of scatting in his songs, and this is one of those songs.)
Jon Gibson - From Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvVZ8BlEwV4#ws)
There For You (One of my favorites, and one of his more recent songs from "The Man Inside", which was his most urban CD that he's done, and his best, imo. The Stevie Wonder vibe is strong with this one, lol)
There For You by Jon Gibson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A4kRP0RjTE#)
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LOL! Yeah he incorporated a lot of that into many of his songs. He was part of the diversity that CCM had in the past
CCM really was diverse back then. Even to the point that there was somewhat of an effort for, shall we say, "urban" artists to get more recognition within the CCM community (it was, after all, Christian lyrics set to a contemporary genre of music). Anointed, for example, featured a "regular" and "urban mix" version of their song "Revive Us" on the "Anointed" album. Toby Mac (at this time dcTalk was still together) was outspoken about what he felt was racism within not only the industry, but the Church body as a whole. Overall, the music was a lot more fun than it is today. Even contemporary gospel (maybe not as diverse) was just so great back then. Fred Hammond's "Pages of Life", Hezekiah Walker &LFC "Live in New York" and Kirk Franklin's Nu-Nation project are still among my favorite albums to this day.
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Well I mean... Chris Tomlin has that "God's Great Dance-floor" song with the dubstep/electro-house snare in it :P And I'm hearing a good bit of the "urban" sound, or what that means nowadays, in the stuff K-LOVE is playing. :)
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Hard to believe that Israel Houghton's first album was a CCM effort...and is awesome, too.
Yeah, the late '90s had a lot of diversity in CCM, but the homogenization of the genre is now all but completed: hipsters took over the industry and everybody looks like a beatnik college student or a drop-out of the same age. Then there's the minor '80s resurgence that's happening, too, with Hillsong Young and Free, Elevation Worship and Citizens.
Black/urban artists are all but missing in my opinion. Anthony Evans tried a couple years ago to make a mark, but he doesn't have a beard nor wear a beanie, so he's off the radar now.
I'm not complaining, really...just stating how things are.
And that Jon Gibson above "God Loves a Broken Heart" is just screaming with Todd Rundgren influences.
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mmkay... so it seems I will have to set out on a mission to take this thread in a new direction...
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Well I mean... Chris Tomlin has that "God's Great Dance-floor" song with the dubstep/electro-house snare in it :P And I'm hearing a good bit of the "urban" sound, or what that means nowadays, in the stuff K-LOVE is playing. :)
During the early 2000's, urban and Latin pop sounds became very prevalent in CCM as it was in the mainstream. It seemed like most of the new artists of that era were in this vein. You still had rock, but the record companies were trying to capitalize off the success of artists such as Britney Spears, Destiny's Child, N'Sync, and Back Street so there were (naturally) Christian equivalents (well not really but....).
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Did you know that she has Tourette's syndrome?
I'm A Fighter! ([url]http://imafighter.org/jamiegraceair1/[/url])
oh wow no I didn't know that I just saw her song was #1 on billboards' gospel song
http://www.billboard.com/charts/gospel-songs (http://www.billboard.com/charts/gospel-songs)
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wow ... that shows me how little I know about Tourette's
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Here's a good one, anyone remember it?
Jaci Velasquez - Un Lugar Celestial (A Heavenly Place) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL8eouXN6-w#)
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Here's another "classic" from back in the day: 4Him "Psalms 112"
Psalms 112 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aceChBwbkzk#)
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^^^That just may be my favorite 4Him song! Then again, there's also The King And I, Sacred Hideaway, and Love Finds You....
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Just Say Jesus....because life is like that sometimes.
Just Say Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8CLgiYZyZE#ws)
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Psalms 112 yes. I never knew what the title was. I still have that on a tape recorded from the radio.
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These two songs really blessed me when I heard them. I find a lot of meaning in them, as I do with a lot of his songs...
Steven Curtis Chapman - The Glorious Unfolding (HD, Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g4zzoR08jI#ws)
Take Another Step - Steven Curtis Chapman Lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niw-qA1JWeQ#ws)
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Hurt & the Healer - MercyMe
I Am - Crowder
Both of these songs ministered to me during my long commutes...
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CCM veteran Michael W. Smith has a new single out; 'You Wont Let Go'
You Wont Let Go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRb_NIQTzyA#ws)
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^^^Yes! I love that song...
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There's a song on here called "Dear Younger Me" it made me cry a little....
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There's a song on here called "Dear Younger Me" it made me cry a little....
I am officially a MercyMe fan. Although some of their earlier material was a little too country flavored for my tastes, I could tell tell that they were a talented group of brothers. Here's something new from Hillsong Young&Free (wow; how many branches of Hillsong are there? Wouldn't surprise me one day to see a Hillsong Gospel :)).
Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2EjYnjKkMw#ws)
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Not really a fan of theirs, but Plus One is back......well, at least three of them are (http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/news_detail.php?newsid=181).
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Oh haha! NICE. Their last album (with just the three) was really cool :D
Interesting side-ways double cross logo they have.
Their new sound is... what's popular nowadays i guess.
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I love this song and group here. I saw them in concert once and they were great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETEyHyqGD4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETEyHyqGD4)
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This song played at my job today, and a coworker across the cubicle heard it and thought it was a touching song.
I agree and Scott Krippayne's You Have Been Good is a song that I love so much! Thought I'd post it here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pPKKOM3gA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0pPKKOM3gA)
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Here's something that's been in regular rotation on our local station. Sidewalk Prophets; "Keep Making Me"
Keep Making Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI1obeb3A9c)
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Here's something that's been in regular rotation on our local station. Sidewalk Prophets; "Keep Making Me"
Keep Making Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI1obeb3A9c)
OMG!! I love that song...
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Sitting at Dr's office looking like Homer Simpson. I need to find a thread mill. :D
Wrong thread, perhaps?
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Wrong thread, perhaps?
Guess you don't know that one? lol
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Guess you don't know that one? lol
:D
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Here is a new release from the Newsboys (Michael Tait - formerly of dcTalk had been the bands new lead singer for a few years now). So, here is "That's How You Change The World"
That's How You Change The World (http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/videodetail.php?video_id=6213)
And here they are gain....live; "We Believe"
We Believe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i9wtJzok4U)
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I've heard "We Believe" quite a bit. Don't think I've ever heard the other one.
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I've heard "We Believe" quite a bit. Don't think I've ever heard the other one.
The other one is brand spankin' new.
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I can't wait to pick up the MWS CD coming out this month. I posted this video of a lesser known CCM song from back in the day on my facebook page on Easter Sunday evening. Sharing it here as well. Crystal Lewis surely had a one of a kind voice... and this is a good song. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukIw5TEmm4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukIw5TEmm4)
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I haven't posted and "throw-back" songs, but here's one from Crystal Lewis that's been in my head for a few days now:
God's Been Good To Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8Jvncbduw)
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I love that song by Crystal Lewis! In fact, the Beauty For Ashes CD has been in my rotation for the past month or so. That CD was really good and well rounded, and it has aged pretty well. (SN: I love the Mute Guitar in Beauty of the Cross)
On another sidenote, I'm not sure why my links are not being properly embedded into the page. They have been in the past, I don't think I'm doing anything different (pasting the link, highlighting it, and pressing the hyperlink button.)
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I found this lyric video online for Mandisa's song Dear John (she should release this as a single). I really do appreciate this song.
SN: I fixed my embedding video issue, as you can see! (It seems the link has to be HTTP, not HTTPS)
Mandisa - Dear John (Lyric Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSpmnaGrDOw#ws)
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Just though I'd pass this along. Former dcTalk member Kevin Max has announced that he is leaving Audio Adrenaline and will (once again) pursue a solo career.
K Max leaving Audio A (http://t.e2ma.net/message/sjkln/ge8a7b)
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Just though I'd pass this along. Former dcTalk member Kevin Max has announced that he is leaving Audio Adrenaline and will (once again) pursue a solo career.
K Max leaving Audio A ([url]http://t.e2ma.net/message/sjkln/ge8a7b[/url])
I see... I never really got into his career as a solo artist. He has a great voice, and I liked him combined with dc Talk. What are the chances of us seeing another dc Talk record?
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I really enjoy this version of Power In The Blood from Nicole C. Mullen.
Nicole C. Mullen Power in the Blood lyric video - full (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hebVgqSjgMw#ws)
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Lecrae vs. Katy Perry: Four Christian rap artists - including Lecrae and FLAME have filed suite against Katy Perry, alleging that she used parts of the song "Joyful Noise" in her hit "Dark Horse". (http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/news_detail.php?newsid=299)
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I wanted to bring this thread back, and these are a couple of CCM "Oldies" that I have loved growing up...
Out Of The Grey - All We Need (anybody remember this song?)
Out Of The Grey - All We Need (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6usMZ-mwfI#)
Burlap to Cashmere - Treasures In Heaven (the music in this song is so captivating. I love it!)
This Love MARGARET BECKER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLaXFnIYTg#)
Selah - It Is Well (you've got to hear their version of this hymn. Probably the best version I have ever heard)
Bika Mono Ve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1KB2rSt7sY#)
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Well, that second link is actually Margaret Becker's "This Love", which is also a great song! I meant to post the one below, which is Burlap to Cashmere's Treasures In Heaven. Take a listen, once again, the music of this song is truly captivating.
Burlap to Cashmere - Treasures in Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8qXPDjnz4#)
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Here is a cut from Lincoln Brewster's latest release; Oxygen
"Made New"
Official Lyric Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd4qtmDGIWQ)
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That Margaret Becker track is a nice song. It seems that the legacy of many CCM artists has been tossed by the wayside. There was some true artistry (as well as not) that has been forgotten by a whole generation of Christians.
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And here's Lincoln again getting a little soulful with "Live to Praise You"
Official Lyric Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa2XEUnC29g)
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I don't know if this song has been posted but it's getting wayyyy overplayed.
for KING & COUNTRY - "Fix My Eyes" (Official Audio) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2we03Sy4I#ws)
I really like it, though, hehe. A shame they have to overplay such a cool song. The live performances are a treat to watch, too. hehe.
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I don't know if this song has been posted but it's getting wayyyy overplayed.
for KING & COUNTRY - "Fix My Eyes" (Official Audio) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2we03Sy4I#ws[/url])
I really like it, though, hehe. A shame they have to overplay such a cool song. The live performances are a treat to watch, too. hehe.
They play it quite a bit around here too, but it's catchy.
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I ruined it for my little sister because I kept watching these live videos over and over, haha. woops.
for King & Country - Fix My Eyes [Live] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq6O78DRpFs#ws)
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From Sanctus Real - "Lay It Down"
Lay It Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3f9GrbOXSA#ws)
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For all of the fond memories, there have been critics of CCM as well. What do you think about this?
CCM - The Ultimate Gateway Drug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWgKVWVe5g8) (it's about an hour long)
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A logical argument.
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Summary please? Did you really think folks were gonna watch an hour long video? LOL...
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I have received a revelation that a "summary" of the previously mentioned video. Thus, I shall provide unto thee the following:
*CCM failed to deliver "revival"
*CCM would draw sinners in and trick them into hearing the gospel - but God does not work through subterfuge.
*The gospel is an offense and sinners should not be made to feel comfortable in church. Therefore, using things of the world (music in this case) as an evangelical tool is the wrong approach.
*CCM is/was a cheap imitation of the real deal being offered by so-called secular artists.
*Art does not have to be "sanctified" just to make it about God - everything does not have to be about God. Bringing the secular into the church and trying to use it to worship God is wrong.
These points and others are presented in this video for your consideration. Although I don't necessarily agree with all that he has to say, I think he does make some valid points. Among them are that our worship to God should be different - set aside for Him....not recycled form the things that we may enjoy from the secular. The author says (and I agree) that it is not a sin to listen to secular music, but being a Christian, there would be certain things that you would or should chose not to listen to. In short, the whole industrialization of "Christian" music is by and large a marketing ploy for record companies to squeeze out a few extra dollars from a niche' market. Hmmm.....is he maybe over reacting a bit or could he be dead on? One thing that I disagree on is the implication that listening to any CCM is some how sinful. Discuss?
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I have to watch the video (and I will) but I do agree with the points made somewhat. That said, if the points you mentioned, funkStrat, were verbatim of what is said in the video, they are way off base in their characterizations and expectations of CCM.
But I'll have to watch the movie first to respond correctly.
I'll have time after Christmas... ;D
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Okay, I watched a bit of it and then skipped through the rest of it and I think I just wasted about 15 minutes of my life.
At least I got to enjoy some ice cream while viewing it...
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Okay, I watched a bit of it and then skipped through the rest of it and I think I just wasted about 15 minutes of my life.
At least I got to enjoy some ice cream while viewing it...
Ice cream: the great redeemer of lost time :-) ....what flavor? What did you think of the video clips (if you got to see them) he presented?
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Ice cream: the great redeemer of lost time :-) ....what flavor? What did you think of the video clips (if you got to see them) he presented?
Breyer's chocolate peppermint.
As far as the video clips, I saw only a few of them (the kids ones and some of the rap clips), but I was really turned off by his KJV-only position. He's one of "those guys" who believes that the only true interpretation of the Bible, originally written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, is the English version commissioned by deceased British royals who interjected their own bias in order to conform to the Church of England's beliefs at that time.
So, based on that fact alone, I (much like he did in his lengthy monologue) threw out the baby with the bath water regarding everything he had to say.
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I didn't even know CCM was secular or based on secular music... so that shows you the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Got me wondering if I even know what CCM is, I just call all white contemporary christian music (lol) by that name. Anyway, I like the message of a lot of the songs, and it clearly expresses the gospel or love for God or faith in God... now there's some artists/songs that feel more like just regular old country music, lol. I think they only pop up in the mix because the artist is a professing christian, and has some other songs that more clearly express that, or because they've been stuck on an album that is mostly christian songs. I don't care for that, because I listen to the christian/gospel stations for a reason, and it's not to hear some dude sing about his family. That's nice and all, just not what I came for, lol.
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I didn't even know CCM was secular or based on secular music... so that shows you the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Got me wondering if I even know what CCM is, I just call all white contemporary christian music (lol) by that name. Anyway, I like the message of a lot of the songs, and it clearly expresses the gospel or love for God or faith in God... now there's some artists/songs that feel more like just regular old country music, lol. I think they only pop up in the mix because the artist is a professing christian, and has some other songs that more clearly express that, or because they've been stuck on an album that is mostly christian songs. I don't care for that, because I listen to the christian/gospel stations for a reason, and it's not to hear some dude sing about his family. That's nice and all, just not what I came for, lol.
He sings about his girl too. :D
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He sings about his girl too. :D
Right!
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I didn't even know CCM was secular or based on secular music... so that shows you the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Got me wondering if I even know what CCM is, I just call all white contemporary christian music (lol) by that name. Anyway, I like the message of a lot of the songs, and it clearly expresses the gospel or love for God or faith in God... now there's some artists/songs that feel more like just regular old country music, lol. I think they only pop up in the mix because the artist is a professing christian, and has some other songs that more clearly express that, or because they've been stuck on an album that is mostly christian songs. I don't care for that, because I listen to the christian/gospel stations for a reason, and it's not to hear some dude sing about his family. That's nice and all, just not what I came for, lol.
Well even in urban contemporary gospel music (urban as in 'black folks music'), a lot of if is based on current secular trends.....until somebody gets all excited and starts shouting in the Spirit :). But the idea behind CCM was to take current popular and rock genres and apply them to Christian or inspirational themed lyrics.
What became CCM started as Jesus Music and was brought to you by the hippie generation. This early form contemporized Christian music had struggled for a while to be accepted by mainstream churches. The early musicians in this movement often had to face many obstacles and personal challenges to perform (minister) Jesus rock. As time went on, it not only gained acceptance, but was a financial success too. This sub-genre was then changed from being called Jesus Music to CCM and at one point was even outselling certain secular genres such as country and jazz. CCM not only embraced rock and pop, but there was the incorporation of Latin, hip-hop and even some gospel. Therefore, CCM really isn't specific style of music, but an umbrella/marketing term used for any form of Christian music that is based on contemporary pop sounds as opposed to traditional hymns or southern gospel (think quartets here). During its height, CCM had a lot to celebrate and was riding high with the economic prosperity of the country. But there was criticism to be had as well including some artists who had fallen into the snare os sin. You had people like Amy Grant, Sandi Patti, and Michael English are some of the better known of CCM "royalty" who have fallen from the good graces of their fans and Christian radio (Grant seems to have bounced back though). A more serious, legal situation occurred with Ja'Mark Davis - founder of the urban/hip-hop group RAZE was convicted of sexual related crimes involving minors. As time went on and people grew up, CCM sort of evolved (or some would even say devolved) into praise & worship. There is still a CCM market, but it's not what it once was and some of the headliners form its heyday have been forgotten ore abandoned. In fact, a few years ago when Steven Curtis Chapman lost one of his daughters, people were struggling to recall his name....and he's still putting out hits today.
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Ah... I see... I think... That's all much ado about nothing in my opinion. I like what I like, and I like to hear the message in the music, if that's gone, I'm out too. I'm not too much for mixing secular song tracks and changing lyrics and whatnot, but since I don't really listen to secular music, I'm sure it's done on some songs I really like and I just don't recognize it. In the end, God knows my heart, I'm not going to try to find fault in the music... there's enough fault without looking far, LOL!
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I do want to also point out that one of the biggest problems among Christian music artists is the fact that a lot of people don't know who they are. In some ways, the CCM industry seems like a "pretend" music industry while the real musicians are out there in the mainstream or secular industry. I hinted at this before, but even the "well known" artists are comparatively unknown. Makes me wonder how these guys and gals make a living! I understand the whole "it's about Jesus" thing, but at the same time, if you are going to make a living in music you simply must sell something. And people wont buy it unless they want it. You don't go on tour by faith alone - you need some cold hard $$$. Even in the general music market (or the arts in general), it's not a super lucrative profession and with the advancement in technology (including our good old friend YouTube), it's easy to listen to music without having to purchase it.
Being that the Christian music market is a very small "ghetto" if you will, I (yes I'm saying this) wouldn't recommend that someone with aspirations to be a professional musician to go into Christian music (at least not initially) OR unless the Lord God himself has given you a specific calling. But besides that, the industry itself is just that. It's an industry, a business, and the machine is not really concerned about how "Christian" the product necessarily is - just as long as there is a positive cash flow. Interestingly, I think that gospel music fares a little better because it has strong roots in the church. Even people who don't go to church or profess to be Christians can somehow relate to gospel music if for no other reason than "it's a black thing".
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I would think that CCM artists make money from CDs, gigs, personal sales, salaried church. I would think it would be at least $50,000 a year for a single artist if not more. A lot of stuff can be itemized on their taxes.
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But the idea behind CCM was to take current popular and rock genres and apply them to Christian or inspirational themed lyrics.
There has always been a "Christian" alternative to whatever music style is popular, from '50s rock and roll to hillbilly bluegrass to baroque and classical music. It's not like CCM was some new idea when it started in the early '70s. What was different for CCM, though, that the previous offerings didn't have much of was marketing and an audience of consumers who could take the music with them wherever they go. The 8-track and cassette and CD and now mp3 make CCM as accessible as any other form of pop music.
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FS, I think they do okay... I mean they may be unknown in secular music (except at Christmas, lol), but the christian market is pretty big, big enough to sell advertisers on supporting their own radio stations...concerts sell out in large markets. I think they do ok. I'm surprised black gospel artists do well, because I think they are a smaller subset... or were... now I run into people of all races who enjoy gospel.
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FS, I think they do okay... I mean they may be unknown in secular music (except at Christmas, lol), but the christian market is pretty big, big enough to sell advertisers on supporting their own radio stations...concerts sell out in large markets. I think they do ok. I'm surprised black gospel artists do well, because I think they are a smaller subset... or were... now I run into people of all races who enjoy gospel.
There was a survey conducted a few years ago by (I believe) the Christian Music Trade Association. The results of the survey indicated that CCM artists had a low recognition factor.......among people who claimed to be Christians! I think that by and large, people are looking for some form of a "worship experience" (man, I hate that term) or some form of being ministered to rather than a new band or singer to follow. Overall, the entire music industry has changed and I think that because the Gospel music market is relatively small, these changes are having a bigger impact on our artists. I guess black gospel fares a little better because the music is part of the culture. But bear in mind that changes in Christian music are not isolated events.
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Christian artist SPZRKT expands his musical misson by breaking away from the Christian music market. (http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/news_detail.php?newsid=568) I've never heard of him before, but do yo think that the church has held back artists and musicisians by effectively making it mandatory that their art be made into some form of ministry?
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Christian artist SPZRKT expands his musical misson by breaking away from the Christian music market. ([url]http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/news_detail.php?newsid=568[/url]) I've never heard of him before, but do yo think that the church has held back artists and musicisians by effectively making it mandatory that their art be made into some form of ministry?
I read the article and the letter. I'm not familiar with this particular artist, but based on the limited information, I have no problem with him sharing his gift with anyone The healed do not need a doctor. Also, I think whatever gift you receive from God should be used for ministry.
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Some more familiar artists are doing this too... Mali Music and Lecrae come to mind. Lecrae doesn't seem to have compromised anything, and people in general seem to love his music, even though it's about Jesus. I know some people get hung up on whether he says Jesus a lot... I don't know if every song has to say Jesus, Jesus, Jesus... I think when you consciously avoid saying Jesus to avoid losing sales, that's when it's a problem for me. But only God knows if that's the case or not.
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Hmmm....now this an interesting development. Folks; none other than the Purple One himself will be covering the song "What If" by Nichole Nordeman! Didn't see that one coming.
Prince and 3rdEyeGirl released an electric guitar-heavy cover of Christian singer-songwriter Nichole Nordeman's "What If" (http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6502030/prince-christian-song-what-if-nichole-nordeman)
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Billy Ray Hearn, founder of Myrrh Records and Sparrow Records, has died at the age of 85 (http://www.newreleasetuesday.com/news_detail.php?newsid=724).
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....the CCM Industry? (http://theweek.com/articles/555603/who-killed-contemporary-christian-music-industry)
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All the songs on K-Love sound the same and use the same dang chord progression...
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I been rocking these for the last two days. Same song but different styles. Love this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjImOsR_YTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjImOsR_YTU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s05nr8DZcM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s05nr8DZcM4)
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You know, it amazes me how CCM went from reaching near arena-rock status to being nearly forgotten by those who helped it reach the level of success that it had achieved. A lot of the creative works of these artists are largely ignored these days.
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Here's Michael W. Smith from back in the day (1993) live in concert. Looks like it was a good time.
Cross of Gold - live (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0OnfooR4yk)
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New from Toby Mac:
Feel It (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8xGaE4S2gk)
Just got a crazy idea. What do you all think of a documentary chronicling the history of CCM? Should I open a Kick Starter account?
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...the year that changed Christian music forever! (http://www.newreleasetoday.com/article.php?article_id=1592)
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New from Toby Mac:
Feel It (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8xGaE4S2gk)
That whole album
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This morning, I was listening to this song after many years and actually paid attention to the lyrics. Funny how an old Christian pop song can speak to you on a certain level...I guess as life goes on, we go through different seasons in our faith and it can feel challenging at times to maintain the same level of passion as when we first started this walk. Sort of a different take on the old standard "Take Me Back"...
Michael W. Smith - "Missing Person" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97_gqtZRSmg)
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Can u send me titles of solo songs that I could sing on wed night and Sun morning...Thank you so much
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I have some not so good news to share regarding Jay Weaver of the group Big Daddy Weave. Jay is the bass player and younger brother the band's front-man Mike Weaver and has been battling a very serious leg infection. Unfortunately, in order to save his life, both of his feet had to be amputated and he is still not out harms way yet. Please visit the link below if anyone would like to support Jay and his family during this difficult situation:
Pray for Jay (https://www.youcaring.com/jason-jay-weaver-582813)