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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: funkStrat_97 on January 20, 2016, 02:09:54 PM
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Happy 2016 everyone. Today, I would like to pose a question to the LGM family to consider: Does God have faith?
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Does He need faith?
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Technically I would say yes because he believes he has the power to do what he says he will. Just as God is love could he be faith also?
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Technically I would say yes because he believes he has the power to do what he says he will. Just as God is love could he be faith also?
Beat me to my answer (but, you probably said it better than I would).
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But why would he need faith? He is God and knows the end from the beginning. Faith is the evidence of things unseen; what is there that is unseen to God? The substance of things hoped for; what is it that God has need of hoping for? Is He not omniscient? But I would add that the notion that God needs faith is directly related to the so-called "little gods" doctrine which is heretical.
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God is faithful. He does not have faith. He just is.
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But why would he need faith? He is God and knows the end from the beginning. Faith is the evidence of things unseen; what is there that is unseen to God? The substance of things hoped for; what is it that God has need of hoping for? Is He not omniscient? But I would add that the notion that God needs faith is directly related to the so-called "little gods" doctrine which is heretical.
What if it was phrased like this. God is the evidence of things unseen. God is the substance of things hoped for.
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When God said "let there be" how did he know "it would be"?
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When God said "let there be" how did he know "it would be"?
Because he is omniscient and all powerful.
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logical answer. of course, not negating that, But why did He need to "say" it, is what I mean. He couldve gave that corner of infinity a quick side-eye, and *poof* insta-universe. Alluding to "before you see it, you have to say it, or you wont see it" i.e., placing complete faith in what one says, and expecting a result.
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logical answer. of course, not negating that, But why did He need to "say" it, is what I mean. He couldve gave that corner of infinity a quick side-eye, and *poof* insta-universe. Alluding to "before you see it, you have to say it, or you wont see it" i.e., placing complete faith in what one says, and expecting a result.
Where is it stated that God had to "say" it? Is faith, then so powerful, that even God is subject to it? If God is subject to anything other than the will of his own council, the he is not Almighty. But this is why word-of-faith theology is flawed because the logical conclusion of what they teach (even if they don't say it) is that the force of faith is even more powerful than God himself. That God is dependent on faith to operate and that by following his example in the operation of faith, we too can be "like God" (the so-called little gods teaching).....hmm; where have we heard that before?
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GOD doesn't have to be something that he already is.....
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o snap, Furious! been a minit!
It isnt said that God "had" to, but since the scripture said that did, about 8 times in creation, it there is an implication that His "saying so" was significant. An omnipotent being doesnt "need" to say anything. But I believe it is an establishment of a principle.
If God is subject to anything other than the will of his own council, the he is not Almighty.
I submit to you, God is subject to his own Word.
That God is dependent on faith to operate and that by following his example in the operation of faith, we too can be "like God" (the so-called little gods teaching)
If God did not have "faith" is His word, then He would not say "for I am watching over my word to perform it"
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GOD doesn't have to be something that he already is.....
Huh?
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Does God has faith...this sounds like pretzel logic. Does God have faith in me? No. If I'm not going to do something, God already knows that before it happens. He don't have to wait and see. That's why He empowered me with the Holy Spirit. He can't depend on me. Does God have faith in God? Now we're applying deductive reasoning on God. If we insist, we're going to get twisted up in our theological understanding.
Having faith is the act of placing one’s self into subjection to someone/something else for something we want, hoping that that someone/something will act out or interact on behalf of the one who is waiting in hope. Faith means to ‘rely on’ a source to act on your behalf. God said if we believe (have faith) in Him, He would do it for us. He didn’t say, have faith in 'faith'. If God has to depend and wait on ‘faith’, then why worship God? Is His power delegated to Him from somewhere else? We can bypass the middleman and go directly to the source: Pray and worship FAITH, or whoever it is that’s above God. We’re saying ‘FAITH’ is above God, so let’s worship FAITH. See, that doesn’t make sense. It makes a mockery out of God. Why should we continue further down this path?
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Happy 2016 everyone. Today, I would like to pose a question to the LGM family to consider: Does God have faith?
God the son does.............
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True. I thought the topic was focused on he Father.
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One of the attributes of God is Faithfulness, God created faith.
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What I meant is that GOD is the very essence of what faith is. It's like someone asking me to be an attribute that I already am. It's like asking Serena Williams to be sexy.. SHE already is. GOD is faith. That's why he can only responds to faith. WE he spoke heaven and earth into existence he was exemplyifying and attribute he already was. IT is written that those that seek him most know that he is a rewarder of those who dilligently seek him. In essence it is our faith seeking faith which is him...
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Hebrews 6:13-14
13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,
14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
If he would swear by himself, would it not stand to reason that he would or could have faith in himself seeing there is no one greater?
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2 Timothy 2:11-13
11. This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him.
12. If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us.
13. If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.
From these scriptures, we see that God is faithful, which would mean to me that God does have faith, and more specifically, undeniable faith in Himself.
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2 Timothy 2:11-13
11. This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him.
12. If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us.
13. If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.
From these scriptures, we see that God is faithful, which would mean to me that God does have faith, and more specifically, undeniable faith in Himself.
Good stuff. Good eye.