wAZUP yall! :wink: yo, I just picked up the old but new CECE Winans throne room DVD, and let me say.......Ladell grew up a heck of a lot when he made the smart decision to leave John p kee! This has got to be the most well thought out concert I have ever heard a drummer play in my life!! 8O He did'nt do too much and he let the spirit use him. Even his solos on certain breaks at the end of the last song were evenly and mentally patterned out and real clean! This DVD is a real wake up call for me as a drummer and as a musician! It's wasn't just POCKET it was PERFECTION!!