To Sabe Div and Drumzalicious.
Sabe, I know you werent calling me a racist. I wasnt really directing my statement towards you but to everyone else that doesnt really know me.
I definitely know that there is still racism, and contrary to many beliefs, whites go through it too. That was my point. I dont believe that it is just the whites against all other colors. Its not like that anymore. As I stated, I am half white and half hispanic but I was always pushed away from the hispanic community in a pretty hateful manner. BUT....the whole point, that never kept me away from anything. I never let that hold me back. There was a job I really wanted with a nice Firm, I got turned down because I wasnt fluent in Spanish and I LIVE IN AMERICA. So, I went and got a job at a better firm. I didnt let that roadblock get in my way. In my area, there is a thing called Hispano Chamber of Commerce where just Hispanic people rally, if the whites had a club called the white chamber of commerce or anything of the sort, we would quickly be called racist and it wouldnt be allowed, but yet other colors are allowed to draw a line and say I am proud to be a member of this ethnic group.
Sabe I respect what you said and I agree 100%. There is a bad image of people that is unfortunately the majority in every race. You are well educated and you didnt let anything get in front of you. So you dont fit in the category.
Div & Sabe, concerning what Div said. Hey there are Redneck Trailer Trash Racist Honkeys that give White guys like me a really bad name. But I am not that white guy. I do not like to get stereotyped for him. I am also a well educated person, and for someone to say well you got there because you are white is just stupid. I got here because I had a goal, ambition and desire and Faith in God that I would get what I want. and I have to say Amen to what Div said, there is the African American people that are content thugging around and they complain that everyone is racist towards them. Same with the hispanics, theres the Cholo Gangbangers that are always causing trouble, thats not all the Hispanics. but the Idiots in every Race give the rest of us that are trying to make something of ourselves a really bad name.
I guess what triggered the whole thing is this: I do not like hearing people finding an excuse as to why they cant do something. Why put a border or a boundry to what you can accomplish? Why say I want to the best I can be but because of this, I can only get this far. Then whats the point of even trying? That especially disgusts me with Christians. We have a God that according to his word, ANYTHING we ask of in His name, it is Ours. So where is our Faith? I have never taken no for an answer in anything in my life. I have always pushed myself as far as I can. I graduated High School at 16 years old, College at 18 years old. I am the Manager of a staff of professionals that are double my age. Why? because I pushed myself to never take no.
Drumzalicious, thanks for your kind words. I really appreciate that coming from you.
So Sabe and Div, you guys are well educated you have achieved a whole lot. Did racism stop you? it may have got in your way a few times as it does with everyone, but did it hold you back? No. You wouldnt be where you are now if it had.
We should let nothing hold us back. period.
God Bless.
Hey - ER ...
Everyone faces racism ... however, in a White dominated society - whites have more of an advantage, and less barriers to overcome. I didn't say you have NO barriers - but I know you have less. See, you're not going to get in over me JUST because you're white ... however, I TRULY believe .. if you and I are equally qualified - in THIS society, you'd get the job in most cases. Heck, depending on the employer .. even if you're a little less qualified ......
ER, are you saying that this world isn't dominated by Whites? We all know that people tend to look out for their own. Their is STILL so much racial tension in this country. You only see it when something happens that 'causes the races to choose sides.
1). Who is HollyWood dominated by? Sure, their are major Black actors - but their are waaaaaaaay more white actors/actresses in Hollywood than Blacks. Most of the roles are written for White's. That much is obvious. Let us see a Black/Hispanic James Bond..................
B. Dude, for one day, I would like for all of the day time commercials to have just Black/Hispanic women. Just ONE day! Dude, ever since I was a young boy watching TV ... their were only a FEW commericals using Black/Hispanic/Asian models. Why do they only use White models? Does it make a difference? In a White dominated society, it matters.
2). What if the "Passion of the Christ" featured a Black Jesus - instead of a White one? Their would have been outrage, and WE ALL know it. They say we don't know what Jesus looks like, and his color shouldn't matter. However, if Mel Gibson had flipped his wig, and used a darker Jesus, people would not have been very pleased with that. Their will never be a non-White image of God, in a White dominated Society. If we don't know how he looked - why does he look Caucasian?
3). The JUSTICE system is ran by Whites. In all honesty ... do you believe that if a White man raped a Black woman, it'd be the same outrage .. as if a Black man raped a White woman?? I can TELL you it wouldn't be the case. I've seen it too many times. Think about racial stereotyping when it comes to driving. Man, I've lived this. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT WHITES DON'T GET TICKETS .... however, I've seen Whites say the WORST things to cops, and they were simply told to "Calm down, sir/ma'am." No Black person in their RIGHT MIND, would think to raise their voice at a Cop.
4). How many of our nations Presidents have been Black/Hispanic? Why? Are we less qualified. I'm sure their is some Hispanic out there who could do an infinitely better job than George Bush. Not 'cause he's White. Because he's a flippin' idiot!
Dude, my point is ... we're now allowed to stand in line for opportunities - but in a White dominated society, the attitudes towards minorities keep's us out of them, more often than it would ever keep you out. I hate to say this - but that is just a reality for minorities that cannot be debated. Either it exist's, or we're all deranged. I really wish that Whites could be Black just for ONE day. Just to FEEL how different it is. I'm not gonna say you don't face any racism - I never said that ... but, it's like this ...
Why do you think when a White person makes ANY KIND of sweeping generalizations about Blacks/Hispanics in the media ... it becomes WW3? Yet, a Black/Hispanic can get on TV and say EXACTLY what he wants to say about Whites, and no one really bat's an outbrow.
You wanna know why? It's like David & Goliath. No one feels sorry for the dominant one, or the one in charge(Except for the rape example. Something about interracial sex brings out the beast in people).
In a school yard fight - if their was a kid around 5'6" 135lbs ... fighting a dude 6'3" 230lbs ... and the shorter kid was beating the daylights out of him, would anyone feel sorry for the big guy? No. People would be cheering that guy on! HOWEVER....
If that same big guy started being the crap out of that little guy - everyone would feel sorry for that smaller guy, and people would probably try to help him out.
That's how it is, that's how it always will be. No one feels as much sorrow for the White man, who has every door opened for him - all he needs be is qualified. A Black/Hispanic man, in MOST(not all) , cases ... can be qualified, and still have doors shut in his face. Who would ever know? If their are no rules implemented to keep a certain number of minorities in certain fields/positions ... the employers is given free-reign to hire as he/she pleases. That person, mor ethan likely would be White. If this is so obsurd, then why did we need something like Affirmative Action. Did they create this jsut for the heck of it? Sure, Whites man have lost out on some opportunities ... but, for the longest, it was US who lost out.
I can't budge from this. This is the reality I live everyday. I am not the type to use racism as a crutch ... however I do know, for a White to compare their racial discrimination .. to a Black/Hispanic/Etc ... is ludicrous. It exist's for you ... but nowhere near the same extent. I see it everyday, & everywhere.
This is YOUR race's world, ER - and you ultimately will have more of an ADVANTAGE of it.
E-R, I'd like to ask you. Sabe and I have been saying the same thing. Neither one of us can be labeled a lazy Black. I'm sure you find both of us somewhat intelligent, at least. With that being said - doesn't that give some validity to our points? No one is saying you don't have a point too. I KNOW you do. White face discrimination in certain areas - such as the hip hop industry, for example. However, in MAINSTREAM society - that is dominated by White people, you do not. I repeat - you do NOT.
We've just been given equal rights .. not too many decades ago. Our race had to fight just to get the rights that we have. They weren't given to us. The fact that we didn't have them all before - let's us know that had we not fought for them, things probably would have remained the way they were. Laws have changed ... but attitudes have no. It will be a looooooong while before their will be TRUE equality. Their is no TRUE equality. If anyone tell's me their is true equality - I will personally slap them in a face, with a white glove filled with rocks. Bugs Bunny style.
Dude, I'd like to ask you - if both of us were qualified to run for President - who do you think would win? Seriously. That's my test mark for true change & racial equality. We've had HOW many White presidents in a row, and no one cared. Imagine if their were two BLACK presidents in a row? They'd cry Whites are being kept out of office, because of the color of their skin. Oh, is that so? It doesn't feel so great now, does it? Would that be true, or would they just simply be paranoid? See, that's how it is. When Whites are kept out of things because of the color of their skin, it's alright for them to say that. For us, we're all using it as a Crutch.
Now - you said yourself that you were kept out of things because of your color. Now, just imagine how it would be if some other race dominated the World, other than Whites.
~The End.
