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Offline Amira

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Somebody, please help!
« on: January 03, 2007, 10:21:52 PM »
why do some choir members take a nonchalant, "i'll get- there -when- I -get- there'   approach to getting to choir rehearsals, AND SUnday morning services on time? It drives me crazy!! I'm musician for my church, and if i was late, these same people would have a fit! If they were getting ready for some 'hype party,' or some performing artist coming into town, they'd start getting ready about 4-5 hours before the event> why do people put God on the back burner when it come to being on time? Somebody, hekp me? What are your soultions??  amira
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 10:52:19 PM »
They don't understand that... "IT IS ALL ABOUT MINISTRY!"
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 10:53:10 PM »
Quote from: ABMJ on January 03, 2007, 10:52:19 PM
They don't understand that... "IT IS ALL ABOUT MINISTRY!"

Small-Minded People!
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 06:40:04 AM »
Quote from: Amira on January 03, 2007, 10:21:52 PM
why do some choir members take a nonchalant, "i'll get- there -when- I -get- there'   approach to getting to choir rehearsals, AND SUnday morning services on time? It drives me crazy!! I'm musician for my church, and if i was late, these same people would have a fit! If they were getting ready for some 'hype party,' or some performing artist coming into town, they'd start getting ready about 4-5 hours before the event> why do people put God on the back burner when it come to being on time? Somebody, hekp me? What are your soultions??  amira


Solutions:

1. Start rehearsal regardless of who is there. If it's only you, then oh well, they'll be singing old stuff until they get the hint.
2. If you're the MOM, sit folks. Period. Draw up some by-laws that address these types of issues.


Other folk are going to tell you to pray, and I don't disagree; but the Bible says that faith WITHOUT WORKS is dead. I'm just trying to give you some 'works'  ;) :D


Be Blessed.
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 07:34:28 AM »
SJon,

You took the words right out of my mouth...

I'll be back with something called Are You Called or Are You A Volunteer? later...

I suggest you print several of them and talk with your choir about that... This is the way I suggest you do it though...

Wait until you're right in the middle of your rehearsal, and tell them... Before we go over our last song for Sunday I want to talk about whether you're called to this ministry or if you're just here because for other reasons

Then bust out the list I'm going to post in here for you on them ...

MrSparrow
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 07:37:26 AM »
For those that can't wait for that list,

I can't get to it on my job (FIREWALL) but I can direct you to the MB where I posted it...

It's at a Tye Tribbett forum I frequent...

The address is www.z13.invisionfree.com/tyemb2

Look in the general topics section and the thread is called Seminars4Worship. I have several things that I'll just copy and paste over here for discussion...

Be blessed,

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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 11:34:25 AM »
This is helpful you guys.  MrSparrow, I probably can't read it either because our computers at work are kind of like yours, but I am definitely interested in this info for our ministry as well.  (Shoot, I might need it for my Sunday School Staff Meeting)
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 02:16:04 PM »
Quote from: nessalynn77 on January 04, 2007, 11:34:25 AM
This is helpful you guys.  MrSparrow, I probably can't read it either because our computers at work are kind of like yours, but I am definitely interested in this info for our ministry as well.  (Shoot, I might need it for my Sunday School Staff Meeting)

Check back later tonight...

MrSparrow
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 02:57:32 PM »
Welcome to LGM and to "Church Folk"
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 04:54:15 PM »
As promised...

Here's the list of Called vs. Volunteers...

It sounds like you have a bunch of volunteers Amira...

Drop this knowledge on em...

Volunteers*                                                    Called**

view themselves doing community service*   Ministry **
whine about time*                                    Committed to serve**
Avoid conflict*                                          Resolve conflict**
Obligated to committment*                        Look forward to being used**
Little outside preparation*                          Prepared**
Don't like criticism*                                    Grateful for feedback**
Threatened by others talents*                    Praise God for the talents of others**
Quit easily*                                               Dig in and persevere**
Feel fulfilled by their talents*                       Fulfilled by being used by God**
Don't like to be stretched*                         Looks to grow**
Volunteers CHOOSE TO SERVE*                  HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE**


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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 05:41:57 PM »
Quote from: MrSparrow on January 04, 2007, 04:54:15 PM
As promised...

Here's the list of Called vs. Volunteers...

It sounds like you have a bunch of volunteers Amira...

Drop this knowledge on em...

Volunteers*                                                    Called**

view themselves doing community service*   Ministry **
whine about time*                                    Committed to serve**
Avoid conflict*                                          Resolve conflict**
Obligated to committment*                        Look forward to being used**
Little outside preparation*                          Prepared**
Don't like criticism*                                    Grateful for feedback**
Threatened by others talents*                    Praise God for the talents of others**
Quit easily*                                               Dig in and persevere**
Feel fulfilled by their talents*                       Fulfilled by being used by God**
Don't like to be stretched*                         Looks to grow**
Volunteers CHOOSE TO SERVE*                  HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE**


MrSparrow

That's Good! Thanks for sharing...that is man...that's good!!!!! (in my talking back to the preacher voice!)
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 10:59:32 PM »
Welcome, To LGM   Amira
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 08:34:46 AM »
Quote from: Amira on January 03, 2007, 10:21:52 PM
why do some choir members take a nonchalant, "i'll get- there -when- I -get- there'   approach to getting to choir rehearsals, AND SUnday morning services on time? It drives me crazy!! I'm musician for my church, and if i was late, these same people would have a fit! If they were getting ready for some 'hype party,' or some performing artist coming into town, they'd start getting ready about 4-5 hours before the event> why do people put God on the back burner when it come to being on time? Somebody, hekp me? What are your soultions??  amira

I feel ya.....and then, with a straight face, tell you that they wanna learn some new music?????   

Sometimes non-musicians just don't understand the amount of time we spend PREPARING for REHEARSAL!!!!  I think they believe that we just walk in the church and play off the top of our heads.
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Re: Somebody, please help!
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 10:47:44 AM »
Quote from: saxandkeys on January 05, 2007, 08:34:46 AM
I feel ya.....and then, with a straight face, tell you that they wanna learn some new music?????   

Sometimes non-musicians just don't understand the amount of time we spend PREPARING for REHEARSAL!!!!  I think they believe that we just walk in the church and play off the top of our heads.


That's when they get the straight-faced, "When you come to rehearsal on time."  ;)
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