Those 2 words right there proved my point. God created everything. Anything else?
God didn't directly create those things, but he created the materials used to make those things.
It's satan working through man that perverts the things God created. So, to cut out the middle man, satan perverts everything God creates. Anything else?
This thing is up to the individual and there is no universal "yes" or "no" answer for this. So, you do what u feel is right and i'll do the same.
I got nothing against you or anybody else who believes different from me. If i offended anyone, I apologize, but i'm sticking to my guns.
You are using my very point, to prove your own. We need not get caught up in semantics. The fact that I stated God's creation,... after I said, "I see what you are saying,
BUT" Speaks to your are right about God creating everything, in that he spoke the universe into existence. So we agree on that point.
<-- tears of joy.
Your second response is given to a set of rhetorical questions, and you answered the way I anticipcated.
"GOD didn't create those things", he was merely as supplier of material. <-- we agreed again. 2 for 2.
The last point, the last time I checked Man had a free will, and this universes focal point is man-kind, if we could merely cut out the middle man, and blame satan, why would christ have to die (no need to answer, that too is rhetorical)
I have nothing but respect for you T-Block, not based on your opinion, but for your decision to live for Christ, and like you stated, It is not a matter of offending, or trust me I wouldn't have posted. I too will keep my guns, cocked, unless I feel led to stand-down.
We will agree to disagree on point 3 (even though I'm right... j/k) as I see it 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
No need to apologize no love lost br'er. Just chattin'
phatstrings, I think the intention to be a light amongst the un-saved; is an honorable one. But more times than not, the unsaved end up making the Christian compromise, than the Christian winning the unsaved to the kingdom. Not saying that it can't happen, its just not the norm, based on my experiences, and the experiences of others I have talked too. The scriptures are very clear about our interaction with the world, how we are supposed to behave around world, what our purpose is in this world, So I don't want anyone to think that I am locked up in the church and never go out amongst unbelievers, but when I am with them, my hearts cry has to be for their salvation, if I believe there really is a hell, and that's were they are headed without Jesus. Sometimes I feel lead to witness, sometimes my lifestyle is the witness (my stance on what I will and will not do.)
Another story... sorry, I have bunches of them, I can't help but share.
We come from a family full of thugs, down to grandma; my family tree is full of gangsta types. My oldest brother who turned his life around since the last time he got out of prision, now owns a barbershop, and clothing store in town. The element that hangs out there is very "thugish", for lack of a better word. They are always hanging out drinking, talking about women, etc. I'm standing out there with my brothers and mutual friends, and a girl lady walks by; immediately I heard, within myself "Don't look" Ofcourse now, I'm trying to figure out what I shouldn't be looking at, all the eyes of the guys out in front off the shop, were on me, to see if I would look, because they know I am a christian. Now had I looked, it would have given them a license to justify what they are doing, why because he's the preacher and he looks. One guy, who is also a child-hood friend, went on and on about how he saw me looking out of the corner of my eye. I didn't event try to defend myself. I said all that to say this, If you are of the faith, and you are with the world, remember that there will be attack on your character, because if you ever fall short, the unsaved will look at Christ and what he requires in a different way.
Wow, that started out being $0.02, and ended up a $1.50 -- Sorry for the long wind.