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Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« on: May 20, 2007, 03:24:16 PM »
Here is a little exercise that you can do to get you familiar with using secondary dominants.  As we learned ealier, a secondary dominant chord is formed by taking a minor chord, making it major and/or adding the m7th, then resolving to 4 of the chord.  Well, in this exercise, the secondary dominant chords consists of the major part of the chord in the RH and m7th in the LH.  The resolution chord is a 4 chord with the 3rd in the bass.  I'll give yall an example first:

C / A-D-F#  (D major chord in RH, C in the bass, together forms a D7 chord)
B / B-D-G  (G major chord, 3rd (B) in the bass, 4 of D)

Yall see how that works?  Well, what I'm gonna do is keep moving the bass down in 1/2 steps.  So, each set of 2 chords is a secondary dominant chord and it's resolution.  Let's get to it:


Set #1

Root position

B / C#-E#-G#
A# / C#-F#-A#
A / B-D#-F#
G# / B-E-G#
G / A-C#-E
F# / A-D-F#
F / G-B-D
E / G-C-E
Eb / F-A-C
D / F-Bb-D
Db / Eb-G-Eb
C / Eb-Ab-C
(repeat)

1st inversion

B / E#-G#-C#
A# / F#-A#-C#
A / D#-F#-B
G# / E-G#-B
G / C#-E-A
F# / D-F#-A
F / B-D-G
E / C-E-G
Eb / A-C-F
D / Bb-D-F
Db / G-Bb-Eb
C / Ab-C-Eb
(repeat)

2nd inversion

B / G#-C#-E#
A# / A#-C#-F#
A / F#-B-D#
G# / G#-B-E
G / E-A-C#
F# / F#-A-D
F / D-G-B
E / E-G-C
Eb / C-F-A
D / D-F-Bb
Db / Bb-Eb-G
C / C-Eb-Ab
(repeat)


Set #2

Root position

C / D-F#-A
B / D-G-B
Bb / C-E-G
A / C-F-A
Ab / Bb-D-F
G / Bb-Eb-G
Gb / Ab-C-Eb
F / Ab-Db-F
E / F#-A#-C#
D# / F#-B-D#
D / E-G#-B
C# / E-A-C#
(repeat)

1st inversion

C / F#-A-D
B / G-B-D
Bb / E-G-C
A / F-A-C
Ab / D-F-Bb
G / Eb-G-Bb
Gb / C-Eb-Ab
F / Db-F-Ab
E / A#-C#-F#
D# / B-D#-F#
D / G#-B-E
C# / A-C#-E
(repeat)

2nd inversion

C / A-D-F#
B / B-D-G
Bb / G-C-E
A / A-C-F
Ab / F-Bb-D
G / G-Bb-Eb
Gb / Eb-Ab-C
F / F-Ab-Db
E / C#-F#-A#
D# / D#-F#-B
D / B-E-G#
C# / C#-E-A
(repeat)


Does this make sense to everyone?  Since the bass keeps moving down in 1/2 steps, it forms a never-ending circle of sec. dom. chord, then resolution.  As you practice, listen to how each one sounds and see if you can fit it in to a song or whatever.  Any questions, feel free to ask.
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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 05:30:08 PM »
     Thanks T-Block for all that info on the circle of 5ths and Secondary Dominant chords!
It's something that's really gonna help me improve my playing and bass line skills.   :)

           Thanks again for the post,    BroAllan

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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 04:38:50 AM »
This week I've bn doing this practise & it sounds very smooth, actually it is the kind of progression that I like most when the possibilities are endless, where you "progress till the end of the practise"

Umm, I've got one question here and it might be a very stupid one; Are these progressions in a specific key i.e "C" that they can be shifted to the other keys or is to be done just as it is :)
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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 07:33:21 AM »
Umm, I've got one question here and it might be a very stupid one; Are these progressions in a specific key i.e "C" that they can be shifted to the other keys or is to be done just as it is :)

They aren't in a specific key, but they can be applied to specific keys. They are supposed to be played in sets of 2. So, the first 2 chords in any set makes one key, then the next 2 chords are applied to the key 1 whole step below it. For example:

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Set 1, 2nd inversion, first 2 chords

B / G#-C#-E#
A# / A#-C#-F#

These 2 chords can be played in the keys of B, F#, and C#. Then, in accordance with the pattern, the next 2 chords:

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Set 1, 2nd inversion, second 2 chords

A / F#-B-D#
G# / G#-B-E

can be played in the keys of A, E, and B. The key of A is one whole step lower than the key of B. The key of E is one whole step lower than the key of F#. The key of B is one whole step lower than the key of C#.

The pattern keeps repeating forever because once you get back where you started, you can keep going and going. The whole point of this post isn't to make a never-ending progression, it's to get you used to the sound of a second dominant chord and it's resolution in this form. So, if you hear it in a song, you can instantly recognize it.
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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 02:03:33 AM »
This is really interesting as I have been looking for extra activities that could help me on improving my bass lines. The best thing is that I never thought that I would find it here. I guess I am very lucky today. I believe that with more practice, everyone will do great someday, even without talents, as those with talents will just have everything easier in the field that they are interested at.

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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 02:02:18 AM »
I've just been surfing the net & I came across this information http://www.piano-play-it.com/support-files/secondary-dominants.pdf, what conclusion can someone make here on the subject.   
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Re: Secondary Dominant Chord Practice (never-ending circle)
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 02:08:04 AM »
Oops, seems like there's complication here, try this http://www.piano-play-it.com/secondary-dominant.html
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