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Offline Tekena

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7-3-6-2-5-1
« on: November 07, 2007, 03:25:00 AM »
Hey

Can someone help me with the scales for 7-3-6-2-5-1 when you are in worship?

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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 12:01:54 PM »
Hey, how are you? I am not familair with the number thingy lol sorry, but what do you mean by the 7-3-6-2-5-1?
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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2007, 04:11:54 AM »
HI

The 7-3-6-2-5-1 are progression use in some worship songs? What am after is scalce to place (fill in the gap) between those progressions.

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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2007, 05:34:22 AM »
Hey Tekena,
Once Im done with exams I'll actually help U out with this.
I finish on the 17th of November.
But so far U can go to my latest postings on the forum @ Hear & play 2 see the use of these progressions.

The 7-3-6 adds new flavor 2 one's playing...I learnt that where I would normally play a 2, I can sometimes sub it 4 a 7-3-6, but it depends if it wil actually fit in.

4 instance, in the song "Falling In Love With Jesus", Kirk Whalum feat. J. Butler, the part.."With Je-eesus", I think I would normally be playing a 2 in my LH with a 6-1-2-4 in my RH (not sure , just using recall), so now instead of playing a 2 in my LH, I now hold the 7-4-7, then quickly move to 3 on LH with #5-1-2-3 on RH & then finally the 6 on the LH & 3-5-6-1 on RH..

but instead of doing the 2-5-1, i think I normally do the 4-3-b3-2-1.
so summary of chords (sorry I'm rushing study time!!)


LH/RH

7-4-7/6-1-2-4
----3/#5-1-2-3
----6/3-5-6-1
----4/3-5-6-1
----3/2-5-(6)-7
--b3/#1-4-5-6
---2/1-3-4-5 ?
---1/7-2-3-5  or ---1/2-3-7-3

plz try & c if it's correct.
I'm nt in front of board nw.

but as I said, try 2 view my posting on apllication of progressions in H&P.

i dont know if this link will work:

http://zone.hearandplay.com/pages/musallio
& then just go to my latest postings & U'll c somthing on progressions.

Hope it helps a bit.

ps:

The 2-5-1 is normally applied in song endings ;) (@ least I do )
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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2007, 06:10:40 AM »
Hey Tekena, I've just viewed the post on Ab progressions topic/ heading& found a progression ending on a 2-5-1!!!

I haven't tried it, but I imagine it sounds very nice with lots of minors bcos of the flats & sharps.

it is the last 1 there that's in the key of G according to the author (Marcus12).

this is what I arrived @:

if the scale of Gmaj [G] is G,A,B,C,D,E,Gb,G =1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 or1, then

"This is a progression in the key of G that I learned on Sunday from my Pastor's sister."

C / Bb Eb G
F / A Eb G
Bb / Ab Db F
Eb / G Db F
A / G C E
D / A D Gb
G / B D G


would be:

4/b3-#5-1
b7/2-#5-1
b3/-#1-b5-b7
#5/1-b5-b7

(&then now, check, the end is a 2-5-1 progression ;))

2/1-4-6
5/2-5-7
1/3-5-1

The point I was illustrating is fact that normally the 2-5-1 is near the end/ is used in endings ;)

Why the number system?
Bcos it makes it easier (in my view) 2 play the progression instantly in any key .
It also encourages/ forces 1 to learn/  be proficient with all the 12 major scales should U attempt 2 play a progression in any key if all U have are numbers.

(flexibility brothere & sisters 8) ;))

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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 06:16:00 AM »
Oops :o

I've just read your other message & I think U said U'r looking 4 scale runs 2 fill in there?

I'm not too sure what U can use,
perhaps the jazz ppl can help U out.

I can only suggest that U look under the "Bass Run" topics posted earlier this week in the jazz section.
U should select any run & c which 1 gives the sound U like & then change it into the number system so that U can apply it in any key you like ;)

I need help with that as well..
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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 05:46:11 PM »
The 7-3-6 IS ALSO used on the song "Calling My Name"..

The part I am thinking of right now is:
Turn
a   [7]
round [3]
and
do [6]
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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 08:52:10 PM »
What you can do is think of the numbers as simply the notes that are in the scale. Lik in the scale:

C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

With this being the C major scale you do arpeggiations of the particular note for example the 7 which is B. On this note you can either play B minor chord (B-D-F)a B minor 7 chord ( B-D-F-A). What I am saying is to think in the mind of chords or what might be familiar to you is scales. This matter of what to use all depends upon what you feel is needed and the move of the song.

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Re: 7-3-6-2-5-1 (Soloing over...)
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 09:19:01 AM »
Hey

Can someone help me with the scales for 7-3-6-2-5-1 when you are in worship?

Tekena

The scale(s) you choose to solo with have more to do with the chord qualities and their function (major, minor, dominant) rather than the progression itself. In its simplest form, the progression you've mentioned can be diatonic. This would only require the use of one scale to remain "in key" and pleasant sounding.

For example: Key of C Major
Scale: C Major
Progression (Diatonic): Bm7b5 - Em7 - Am7 - Dm7 - G7 - CMaj7

If you're not clear about the term diatonic, I think there are numerous explanations on this board about the topic that may help clarify the concept for you. If you want a more jazzy sound, then things get a bit more complex. Hope this helps at least a little bit. Jazz theory can become complicated very quickly. Before tackling it, you really need to know major scale harmony well.
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