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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #240 on: October 15, 2009, 01:45:06 AM »
Bruh u need to chill..u not captain planet or the pink ranger of lgm...u seemed humble at one point but ever since u went PLANTNIUM on CDBABY u flipped the script

..stop hating on these cats, cuz i bet MY LIFE that if diddy calls you RIGHT now to go on tour with him in one week from now you'll be making BLOGS from your bunk of the tour bus..so please take ur lame LOGIC else where..cuz im broke and im not BUYING IT..

I think he's got business etiquette.  if i was u i'd stop betting your life on everything.
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #241 on: October 15, 2009, 01:49:26 AM »
ok im sitting here with the MD for City of Refuge Church,Mary Mary,new kids on the block tour and the jamie foxx tour...and he said one of the new cats playing for diddy would make like 1000 a week...

but big name drummers such as aaron spears or nissan stewart can make up to 4500-5000 a week...plus like 60-100 dollars for food each day..

and that there is noooo way possible that some guy makes 200 bucks a week for lil wayne,unless its one of his homeboys that just kicks it with him....

info from the horses mouth...

Sounds to me after reading this post that most gospel musicians are two things 1 Pretty Stupid, and 2 Not Saved... lol (diddy, wayne,etc...)
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #242 on: October 15, 2009, 02:07:12 AM »
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #243 on: October 15, 2009, 02:34:39 AM »
Since some replies to this topic have went 10 miles down the street with two left turns and then a right with a slight run up on the curb, I would just like to announce that I really like pimento cheese.
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #244 on: October 15, 2009, 05:52:48 AM »
You know what...how can I say this without sounding crazy (which I don't think I can). Now this is totally my OPINION. To me it looks like everyone is out to be the next Donald Trump or something. I mean everytime you turn around someone trying to be rich, trying to be a big CEO. I may get a lot of heat from this but hey this is me. Some of you call drums your heart and passion but wouldn't pick up a stick unless someone offered you 300+. Which is fine if it that's what you want to do. I mean especially drummers in church, what ever happened to sacrifice. Someone people try to put a limit on God..."God I ain't doing this for you unless I get this". We tend to forget that God dosent owe us ANYTHING. I know I'm kind of speaking from a straight christian/gospel side, but this how I am. When you say God is the head of your life you really need to understand what that means, are you trying to please him or yourself?? Is your life about him or YOU?? So I mean to sit here and say everyone is suppose to be some big executive or very wealthy, and have all this kind of money is kind of ludacris to me. Whether I (just using me for example so no one gets hurt) make money on tour or at my hospital job now, I still have to pay for medical & dental insurance. My 401k still gets subtracted from me gross pay. Taxes still get deducted. So what's the difference some people even I couldn't make it off of 25,000 a year, but guess what some people believe it or not can. I see it everyday and it blows my mind!! If anything I wanna know how the heck they can do that. Its understandable when you're at 75,000-150,000 a year but 25,000 tell me how the heck you manage that. I mean it dosent take wisdom to live off 150,000, it takes wisdom to live off 25,000-30,000. I mean this may be over a lot of peoples head, but hey this is me. I mean if Chris Kee or whoever can live off of making 30,000-40,000 a year then let the man do what he desires. If there are people on LGM that can do the same them be. I know for a fact I can't....I have a wife and 4 kids. Now for me I know 75,000 a year would be just fine, so why would I shoot for 150,000-200,000 to me that's greed. I'm not going to set unecessary goals for myself. I mean if I get it I get it, but I'm not going to be depressed if I dont, and consider myself unsuccesful. Success is based on your ability to achieve your goals which you have set. I know unsuccesful millionaires who fail just because they didn't have goals or couldn't achieve the ones they put in place. Money does not=success it may = wealth, but definately not success. Sometimes we tend to forget that our reward is not here on earth, when we die everthing we've accumulated on earth is going to be stripped from us, now when that happens what you got then?? It's crazy how prosperity gets twisted. Anyways all in all if you want to be a CEO of your own company set goals for yourself, become knowledgable on what it takes to achieve those goals, hang around the folks that have had success in achieving the same goals. If you want to be a full time musician I say the same thing...set goals for yourself, gain knowledge, hang around successful people, and sometimes like Gerald said in the other post just read. Pick up a book, do research. Wikipedia can be your best friend. Both truthfully most people fail because they don't set goals for themselves, or they set goals but are to lazy in pressing their way forward to achieve them.......Alright, ima shut my mouth for the rest of the thread (I think).

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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #245 on: October 15, 2009, 05:55:43 AM »
I know I was probaly waaayyy off topic, but I just felt the need to put that on the table, oh....and keep God truly first. With him as the HEAD of your life, your driver...you will never go wrong.

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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #246 on: October 15, 2009, 05:58:49 AM »
I know I was probaly waaayyy off topic, but I just felt the need to put that on the table, oh....and keep God truly first. With him as the HEAD of your life, your driver...you will never go wrong.

It's ok... lol... look at the other posts... everyone's off subject. LOL
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #247 on: October 15, 2009, 06:02:31 AM »
You are funny....but true. lol

hay, that statement aint true!!!! your tastebuds dont work? lol... I can tell ya, if i ate skittles (PURE SUGAR WITH fruity FLAVOR) I'd be able to tell the difference between orange and grape... that's just me though... maybe your tastebuds need a physical.  ::) :D :D :D
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #248 on: October 15, 2009, 06:09:10 AM »
Lol....that's[tru
It's ok... lol... look at the other posts... everyone's off subject.
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #249 on: October 15, 2009, 06:13:16 AM »
Lol....that's[truquote author=MyVirtue link=topic=68315.msg733116#msg733116 date=1255604329]
It's ok... lol... look at the other posts... everyone's off subject. LOL
 

Lol...that's true!!!


So, I'll take it that your favorite quote is, "LOL...that's ture!!!" ????  ::) ;D
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #250 on: October 15, 2009, 06:29:06 AM »

So, I'll take it that your favorite quote is, "LOL...that's ture!!!" ????  ::) ;D

Hahaha....Lol!! That's true.

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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #251 on: October 15, 2009, 07:03:16 AM »
...can someone please break this down for me?

...I got called to play drums for X artist for a 6 month tour.  He's paying me $2,500 a week. 

...What am I making after taxes?  Is health insurance included?  How about a retirement plan? 

...I live in an apartment that pays $1,100 a month not counting living expenses.  I have a new Scion XB that pays $430 a month with full coverage insurance included.  I have a Credit Card that has a $7,500 balance due to all of this gear that I had to purchase prior to getting some endorsements.  (because company's aren't giving things away until you're purchasing their "product.")

...can I make it?  BTW, what happens when the tour is over?
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #252 on: October 15, 2009, 07:05:45 AM »
ok im sitting here with the MD for City of Refuge Church,Mary Mary,new kids on the block tour and the jamie foxx tour...and he said one of the new cats playing for diddy would make like 1000 a week...

but big name drummers such as aaron spears or nissan stewart can make up to 4500-5000 a week...plus like 60-100 dollars for food each day..

and that there is noooo way possible that some guy makes 200 bucks a week for lil wayne,unless its one of his homeboys that just kicks it with him....

info from the horses mouth...

Not saying that homeboy has no credibility, but I talked to the horse himself. The dude that's actually playing for a lil' wayne and his words to me is "i'm only getting paid $200 a week but....."

That didn't come from a secondary source but the person. I don't know how much more direct you can get when it comes from the person that's playing. But hey, I only go by what was told to me. Who knows.
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #253 on: October 15, 2009, 07:38:22 AM »
um what would i rather do....go back 10 yrs of my college life running around to every mtb show audition, hunt down folks for gigs, beg for gear, be all funky coming to church on sundays, start smoking weed on the weekends cause i can't pay the bills, maybe get lucky to play on a few gigs only to turn out that people wont know who the hell i am, by the way i'm assuming you believe gigs have an awsome 401k plan, dental, life, and health plan as well?  Yeah i guess i'm just dying to go back those years of my college life and skip the opportunity to be working at IBM right now were i can make the salary of one freakin gig in a week.   I choose NOT to...


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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #254 on: October 15, 2009, 07:55:03 AM »
Brutha28,

...are you bragging?


I'm saying that going to college and working hard for a living, paid off and I can afford to have leisure.  If you can't afford to have leisure then you need to rethink you strategy.  I have alot of friends, family who are in music but one thing i was taught always is education is FIRST and formost after God.





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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #255 on: October 15, 2009, 07:56:17 AM »
...can someone please break this down for me?

...I got called to play drums for X artist for a 6 month tour.  He's paying me $2,500 a week. 

...What am I making after taxes?  Is health insurance included?  How about a retirement plan? 

...I live in an apartment that pays $1,100 a month not counting living expenses.  I have a new Scion XB that pays $430 a month with full coverage insurance included.  I have a Credit Card that has a $7,500 balance due to all of this gear that I had to purchase prior to getting some endorsements.  (because company's aren't giving things away until you're purchasing their "product.")

...can I make it?  BTW, what happens when the tour is over?

EXACTLY....The govt is gonna get theres...and trust me, I've experienced it and ssen it first hand...payin taxes off of a years worth of stuff AINT cool...

This goes hand in hand with one of my earlier posts...like why do it if its not worth it..
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #256 on: October 15, 2009, 08:05:59 AM »
if I may add my lil pennies to this whole discussion... I feel there are valid points coming from every angle, some are being delivered in a way that comes off as "well im the know it all, or im the man so you better believe me or else" just because you have this going for doesn't make you billybad@$$ either, the the know it all attitudes and drummer gangstas is getin really whack, i look at and respect everyone's OPINION almost equally, u take the gud or bad and keep it moving, but jus because someone maybe be producing there own cd/dvd's or whatever that makes them so grand that there opinion is golden, and for all the people that can't fornm there own opinion get off others and grow a pair yourself!!! be your own man, form your own and definitely don't try to force your opinion on others or just because they don't take heed to what you're saying, thats whack!!! i don't consider myself the man on this board or even close to it, but i do like to offer my advice from my perspective, ive been thru alot and seen alot and i know my fair share of the business as well because ive been blessed to have tight relationships with certain people that are doing this very thing that is being discussed...

some of it is HYPE, but then there are others that are really doing it and being smart about it, it all boils down to common sense you evaluate your personal situation and if you can afford to take chump change then do it, only you can call yourself stupid in the end, but don't be influenced by SOUR people, God gives us our own paths we must follow, who the heezy are you to tell someone else there way is dumb or you're stoopid, get serious bros and handle your own and some people need to get off there plastic high horses and stay in there lanes

now recently I had the oppurtunity to go out with a group and tech for the drummer making $600 a wk and a $20 per day per diem, and the band wouldve only been giggn 3 or 4 days out of the week, well to some thats alot of money if you have no kids/wife and if you didn't mind spending the 1st 3 days in Puerto Rico while only having 1 show there, so 2 free PAID DAYS wudve have been dope right??? well Im sorry i had to turn it down because i have responsibilty here at my church and God has blessed me to make very close to that w/o punching a clock...lol, so kp in mind this gig wasn't evn playing drums, so it can be done regardless of who says it can't, but fellas all imma say is be wise and don't believe the hype, the only person who should have your trust is Jesus and nobody on this board all they can do is offer opinions, especially if there used to getting burnt, im gonna end this long post of mind, its too long for me but had to vent, i prolly shuda made a video, it wud've been way easier....lol
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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #257 on: October 15, 2009, 08:17:36 AM »
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if I may add my lil pennies to this whole discussion... I feel there are valid points coming from every angle, some are being delivered in a way that comes off as "well im the know it all, or im the man so you better believe me or else" just because you have this going for doesn't make you billybad@$$ either, the the know it all attitudes and drummer gangstas is getin really whack, i look at and respect everyone's OPINION almost equally, u take the gud or bad and keep it moving, but jus because someone maybe be producing there own cd/dvd's or whatever that makes them so grand that there opinion is golden, and for all the people that can't fornm there own opinion get off others and grow a pair yourself!!! be your own man, form your own and definitely don't try to force your opinion on others or just because they don't take heed to what you're saying, thats whack!!! i don't consider myself the man on this board or even close to it, but i do like to offer my advice from my perspective, ive been thru alot and seen alot and i know my fair share of the business as well because ive been blessed to have tight relationships with certain people that are doing this very thing that is being discussed...

some of it is HYPE, but then there are others that are really doing it and being smart about it, it all boils down to common sense you evaluate your personal situation and if you can afford to take chump change then do it, only you can call yourself stupid in the end, but don't be influenced by SOUR people, God gives us our own paths we must follow, who the heezy are you to tell someone else there way is dumb or you're stoopid, get serious bros and handle your own and some people need to get off there plastic high horses and stay in there lanes

now recently I had the oppurtunity to go out with a group and tech for the drummer making $600 a wk and a $20 per day per diem, and the band wouldve only been giggn 3 or 4 days out of the week, well to some thats alot of money if you have no kids/wife and if you didn't mind spending the 1st 3 days in Puerto Rico while only having 1 show there, so 2 free PAID DAYS wudve have been dope right??? well Im sorry i had to turn it down because i have responsibilty here at my church and God has blessed me to make very close to that w/o punching a clock...lol, so kp in mind this gig wasn't evn playing drums, so it can be done regardless of who says it can't, but fellas all imma say is be wise and don't believe the hype, the only person who should have your trust is Jesus and nobody on this board all they can do is offer opinions, especially if there used to getting burnt, im gonna end this long post of mind, its too long for me but had to vent, i prolly shuda made a video, it wud've been way easier....lol

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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #258 on: October 15, 2009, 08:31:28 AM »
Well, I think comes down to short and long-term thinking.

- Is this a lifestyle that can be sustained for years, with sufficient compensation?

- Do you have greater aspirations in the industry, and you're simply using these opportunities to get your foot in the door?

- Do you have kids? Is it fair to your family for you to be out on the road all the time, while you live out your fantasies?

Ultimately, you need to have a plan. Too many people take positions, and remain stuck, because they have no true aspirations outside of playing the current gig/tour and getting paid, and HOPING others fall into your lap. That is living life foolishly, but "hype" can cause people to do foolish things.

Most musicians eventually tire of the road, but have to keep on keeping on, because they squandered what they had, and need to keep gigging to support their lifestyle/make the ends meet.

Educate yourself and plan for the short and long-term according to what's wise and real(The most likely consequences of your choices). Jumping into that life without a plan is like having sex with a lot of females, not being smart, and ending up with more children than you can provide for sufficiently. Eventually, after all your fun, you're likely going o hate what you're left with/what you've gotten yourself into.

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Re: Making His Band Part 2
« Reply #259 on: October 15, 2009, 08:46:11 AM »
Well, I think comes down to short and long-term thinking.

- Is this a lifestyle that can be sustained for years, with sufficient compensation?

- Do you have greater aspirations in the industry, and you're simply using these opportunities to get your foot in the door?

- Do you have kids? Is it fair to your family for you to be out on the road all the time, while you live out your fantasies?

Ultimately, you need to have a plan. Too many people take positions, and remain stuck, because they have no true aspirations outside of playing the current gig/tour and getting paid, and HOPING others fall into your lap. That is living life foolishly, but "hype" can cause people to do foolish things.

Most musicians eventually tire of the road, but have to keep on keeping on, because they squandered what they had, and need to keep gigging to support their lifestyle/make the ends meet.

Educate yourself and plan for the short and long-term according to what's wise and real(The most likely consequences of your choices). Jumping into that life without a plan is like having sex with a lot of females, not being smart, and ending up with more children than you can provide for sufficiently. Eventually, after all your fun, you're likely going o hate what you're left with/what you've gotten yourself into.


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