I just played 2 Ken Smiths recently at The Bass Club in Chicago. Sorry but the Ken Smith sounded the thinnest out of all the bass I tried, no bottom. I do love their finger tone & they are some beautiful basses. But compared to the Sadowsky, MTD, Mike Lull, Fender Jazz Deluxe, Zon, Elrick basses I played, the Smith just did not pass the test & out priced all of the other basses. I do like the Warwick Corvette basses. I almost bought one at this pawn shop, but I didn't pull the trigger fast enough & it got sold. Very nice bass, with tone for days. But their are plenty basses out there, that will give you that growl, that cost way less than a Ken Smith. Now I do like the KSD(Ken Smith Design). Check out this cat on youtube(someone posted him a while back) Rev. Chubby love, man that brothas bass sounds good. Though he did modify it, but after the modifications, he still paid no where near a what a real Ken Smith cost. In other words, do your homework.