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Analyzing Theory of "Ordinary People" Chords

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Cmajor13:

thanks for the correction guys i thought it was in the key of Bb because of the structure i didnt thank about how it in on F because i have played song where they end on the 4 or the 5

elio:


--- Quote from: playhear ---Given the song is in F, here's another question: why does the b7 chord want to resolve to the 1 chord? By playing the b7, it's clear that the b7 chord does want to resolve to the 1 chord. I'm just not sure why.
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If you look at the Eb triad, it contains Eb, G and Bb. Now, if you simply add a C on the bass you have a Cmin7, ie the relative minor fifth of F (the root), which wants to resolve to F.

You can think of it as a substitution (ie from C7 to Cmin7 to Eb); you can try it on a lot of I-ii-V or I-IV-V songs, turning them into I-ii-bVII or I-IV-bVII.

Hope this is useful...

playhear:


--- Quote from: elio ---
--- Quote from: playhear ---Given the song is in F, here's another question: why does the b7 chord want to resolve to the 1 chord? By playing the b7, it's clear that the b7 chord does want to resolve to the 1 chord. I'm just not sure why.
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If you look at the Eb triad, it contains Eb, G and Bb. Now, if you simply add a C on the bass you have a Cmin7, ie the relative minor fifth of F (the root), which wants to resolve to F.

You can think of it as a substitution (ie from C7 to Cmin7 to Eb); you can try it on a lot of I-ii-V or I-IV-V songs, turning them into I-ii-bVII or I-IV-bVII.

Hope this is useful...
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OK, now we're talking. Maybe that little twist adds just enough zing to make this song something special. Is that a common substitution in gospel or jazz?

elio:

Not sure it's used that often, as it sounds a bit harsh (of course, it depends on the context). Rock guitarists use the bVII->I a lot, but that's another story.

T-Block:

playhear wrote:


--- Quote ---Given the song is in F, here's another question: why does the b7 chord want to resolve to the 1 chord? By playing the b7, it's clear that the b7 chord does want to resolve to the 1 chord. I'm just not sure why.
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T-block wrote:


--- Quote ---TheThe 7 can sometimes be substituted for 5
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