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Offline jpat

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« on: July 08, 2005, 04:48:41 PM »
When can you call a white key sharp(#) 8O , what key would it be, and why?  I hope you're out there sacred-composer...this one's for you and any other theory genius. :roll:

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2005, 05:19:20 PM »
Well from a theoretical point of view any white key can be called a sharp especially when you get into double sharps.
For example A is can also be called Gx (G double sharp)
Now in the key of C#major the F natural key in that key is calle E# and C natural is called B#.
You got to get up pretty early in the morning to stump the theory master! lol  8)
Of course my wife usually wakes me up! LMBO!  :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 10:34:43 AM »
Very good sacred-composer.  I teach theory, and when I teach the rules of writing out a major scale, students are amazed that "F" in the key of C# major is technically E# as well as "C" is technically B#.

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 11:20:44 AM »
Also, remember the Circle of Fifths, it's all there.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 12:14:07 AM »
yeah Sacred I was just about to say you forgot B# in the same C# maj scale.

But also F# maj has an E#

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2005, 12:11:55 AM »
Quote from: sacred-composer
Well from a theoretical point of view any white key can be called a sharp especially when you get into double sharps.
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What he said.

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2005, 11:26:56 AM »
Scales27 to answer your question in traditional music theory there is the use of not only natural, sharpened and flatted notes but also double sharps and double flats. The double sharp symbol is x and the double flat symbol is bb. Now the fact you are not aware of this is due to the flat that it isn't used often and unless you had studied music theory you would not know that. In fact I don't think it is ever used in lead sheet or music chord symbols. I think the reason being is that since double flat & sharps are usually in most cases are enharmonic to a natural note or in the case of a double flatted F note is also Eb a single flat note it is easier to say Eb instead of Fbb or double flat. The interval of a double sharp or flat is one whole step so for example a Fdouble sharp would be the enharmonic equivalent of G natural. The chord which is most common to find a double flat note is in the fully diminished 7th chords. For example if I spell out a Cdim7 as it is suppose to be written from a theoretical point of view would be C Eb Gb Bbb. But because the Bbb is also A natural it is easier to put it like that for a clearer more pratical way so that if a musician such as yourself isn't familiar with it but yet already understands the structure of that chord without necessarily the technical theoretical terminology you can still understand what chord the composer/arranger wanted played at particular point of reference in the song/composition.
So with that in mind any natural note is can also be called the double sharp or flat of another note that is a whole step up or down from it.
I hope that I helped clarify the concept for you.[/b]
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