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What is the Average Salary for Musicians For Rendering Services ( Per Sunday Mornings Only)

$30-$100
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« on: August 15, 2005, 11:06:30 AM »
God Bless You Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour!!!!! Does anyone happen to have the chords to "What God Has For Me It Is For Me"? I would really appreciate it if someone would share those chords with me. Also, does anyone know how to interpret the way the chords are posted; sometimes I get confused and when I sit dwon to play the songs, they do not sound correct. Maybe it has something to do with my understanding of the rhythm of the songs as oppossed to how the poster has interpreted it. PLEASE HELP!!!! Once again, I really appreciate the help. 8)

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2005, 02:16:27 PM »
what does that poll have to do with your statement.??!  Sike nah, but um..it depends how its written.  IF it says CG/CEG then it means in ur left hand play a CG and in ur right play a C E and G.  When they are separated by commas ie:  C, E, G, play them like a run, or single notes...hope i helped
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2005, 05:12:26 AM »
Glory!!

Those chords are located at www.earnestandroline.com under the chord section  the song is called It is For Me by Miami Mass Choir.

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2005, 11:18:52 AM »
you guys may think Iam Insane, but when I WAS playing for a church, this pastor(no names) paid me  $10 to play every sunday! The ONLY reason I continued to play was because I LOVED playing. he said he would give me a raise as time goes by. Years went by and I didn't sweat It at all!!! but I did gain the experience!!!!

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2005, 01:41:25 PM »
for i make 50 a sunday and the church needs me during to play with tem at another church and or a special service like pastors anniversary or something each night is like an extra 50$.
my who left for Morehouse in the ATL he was playin' for 2 churches at the same time one giving him 200$ a sunday and the other was paying him 100$(plus they just got a NEW B-3) , now that he gone he called the other day asked me if wanted the 100$ gig and i said i couldn't cause i already had gig and didn't just want to leave them high dry cuz there a small church with all these larger churches its hard to get some who's dedicated regardless of denomination or what instruments they have (like a B-3).

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2005, 01:47:33 PM »
The church that I am a member of doesn't pay me anything.  However, I am about to startplaying for another church beacause their main service is on Sunday nights and they gonna pay me $100 a Sunday, which is cool because I dont have any obligations to them and I ge to attend my home church regularly
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 12:25:47 AM »
Hey wassup out there,

Atlanta musicians get paid well at most churches.  I know this musician who play the keys and he was getting paid $900.00 per Sunday.   He is a tight musician, but the church wasn't a big church.  Another thing is that he doesn't have a regular job.  The guy went to college and received his degree in music.  I also know this drummer who charges $250 per Sunday.  He was playing at my church with me, but he stopped because my church is very small and we could only afford $50 per Sunday.

I play for a small church, but I really don't charge anything.  I'm a decent musician.  I'm not a beginner nor Pro, but I can say i'm in between.  I really think most musicians here in the ATL are about $$$$$$.  They really shouldn't be like that.  GOD GAVE THEM THE TALENT, SO WHY NOT INVEST YOUR TALENT BACK INTO THE CHURCH.  In most cases, churches are willing to give you something in return.  I've always told myself that I will never get the BIG HEAD, because i'm giving my talent back to GOD.  As long as God blesses me financially on my job, I will never ask the church for anything.  THINK ABOUT IT!!!

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2005, 02:02:01 PM »
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I play for a small church, but I really don't charge anything.  I'm a decent musician.  I'm not a beginner nor Pro, but I can say i'm in between.  I really think most musicians here in the ATL are about $$$$$$.  They really shouldn't be like that.  GOD GAVE THEM THE TALENT, SO WHY NOT INVEST YOUR TALENT BACK INTO THE CHURCH.  In most cases, churches are willing to give you something in return.  I've always told myself that I will never get the BIG HEAD, because i'm giving my talent back to GOD.  As long as God blesses me financially on my job, I will never ask the church for anything.  THINK ABOUT IT!!!


You are so true.  A lot of musicians are about the money.  Me, personally, I don't charge to play.  But at the same time, my dad is the pastor of the church.  I do get a love offering of $100 a month.  Even if my dad wasn't the pastor, I still wouldn't charge.  That's not to say that I wouldn't accept it if they offered.  I just believe that God will bless me for using my gift to edify Him.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2005, 04:14:22 PM »
I never realized that musicians get paid to play at church! I mean I heard it before but that does make sense.. if a musician is really good,and he plays for a big church he should get paid because musicians dont make that much.I dont get paid  :cry:  .. (Maybe becauase im 16) ...  and I havent finished all my theory yet so that explains it. Lol

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2005, 07:55:13 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I know musicians need to make money too.  If a church is offering to pay a musician, that's one thing.  Being a musician is a job.  A person usually can't say, "I want $350 per Sunday" and expect to get it (unless it's a big church with huge membership).  The church should say, "I will pay you this amount per Sunday" and it's up to the musician to take it.  I think that's why some musicians have the "big head" now.  They get paid a lot and think they are all that.  They don't take the job as ushering in the Spirit of God, but as easy money for a day's work.  I don't believe all musicians are like that (as I am a musician), but I hope that the more established musicians would nurture the upcoming musicians so that the supply will be greater.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2005, 09:37:10 PM »
I recieve $275.00 per Sunday and I pay my music tithes to the church.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2005, 10:01:42 PM »
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I recieve $275.00 per Sunday and I pay my music tithes to the church.

Do you have to play just for church services or the whole thing (weekly services, choir rehearsals, etc)
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2005, 10:32:00 PM »
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Don't get me wrong, I know musicians need to make money too.  If a church is offering to pay a musician, that's one thing.  Being a musician is a job.  A person usually can't say, "I want $350 per Sunday" and expect to get it (unless it's a big church with huge membership).  The church should say, "I will pay you this amount per Sunday" and it's up to the musician to take it.  I think that's why some musicians have the "big head" now.  They get paid a lot and think they are all that.  They don't take the job as ushering in the Spirit of God, but as easy money for a day's work.  I don't believe all musicians are like that (as I am a musician), but I hope that the more established musicians would nurture the upcoming musicians so that the supply will be greater.


well said  :D .. I think your right that some musicians dont play just to show off but they play for God . I know I started on the wrong foot when I wanted to impress everyone in my church and that didnt go well and I didnt have to much friends after that ''incident'' . But sometimes good musicians needs to be appreciated because of all their hard work, they should get *$BONUS*! LOL.. be honest who would not want a bonus?????!

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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005, 10:47:14 PM »
$225.00 per service, $175.00 per rehearsal.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2005, 04:09:40 AM »
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$225.00 per service, $175.00 per rehearsal.
Wow, that is amazing.  Is that what you charge, or did they offer you that?  I know that small churches can't possibly afford prices like that.  That's why so many of them are without musicians.  However, I do believe that if musicians are using the church, God will take that talent/gift away from them...not to say that you are using the church.  I'm just saying in general.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2005, 07:23:40 AM »
Sheesh is he really making that much, I know secular players (local) that arn't making that much per gig and of course making nothing for a rehearsal.

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2005, 11:53:50 PM »
That is what I charge. I play at 2 small (under 100 adults) churches. Actually the one I worked at yesterday we'd negotiated down to $175/service and $125/rehearsal because I understand their situation and that's the lowest I'll work for at a church. We understand that as they grow so will my pay. If a church can't afford my services that's OK. There are other people that they, perhaps, can afford. What we as musicians and directors do is valuable and many, if not most, of us do not get nearly what our jobs are worth. (Actually that goes for other non music [day]jobs too.) That's not having "the big head" nor is it "thinking more highly of myself than I ought", it's simply understanding the value of what I do. I don't think I'm "the baddest" or "the hottest" thing around. In fact, though I'm good at what I do, I know there are others that can sing or play "rings around me" as it were. That's not the point. It took me some time to realize this because my whole family is so musical and I deal with so many musicians but, what we do is a highly specialized field. MOST people don't do what we do.
     Also, the reason I charge for rehearsals is because that's where most of the work goes. Try this; Suppose you get paid just $10 per hour. You take 2hrs listening to, praying over, and selecting material to do. Take another 5 hrs learning to sing it, learning to play it, learning to do both simultaneously,and learning it well enough to teach it. 2hrs in rehearsal.  We're at $90 already. Add writing out charts, copying out lyrics, or making tapes/CDs for people and it goes up. Add a "pain in the neck" tax for the attitudes that you inevitably will have to deal with.  Do you see what I mean? Working the service is relatively easy by comparison.  Pray, show up on time, organize your personell, listen to the Holy Ghost and the pastor, worship God, and execute what you did in rehearsal.  
     Is that "using" the church? YES!  Is the church "using" me? YES!!  That's what the exchange of goods and services is.  Is it right.  Yes. I'm sure you know the scriptures "Muzzle not the ox that treadeth out the corn" and "The laborer is worthy of his hire".  Is it ABuse?  No. When you go to work your secular job it's the same exchange. What about "Giving your gift back to God" and all that? Well, firstly "Gifts and callings come without repentance". My undersanding of this is that God does NOT take these things back nor do I know of or recall any such biblical incidences (lifting of the anointing is a different thing).  Next, working for the Lord and for a church are two different things. In all we do it is to be "as unto the Lord" but I can lift my voice and play an instrument alone. When I as a musician worship on my instrument or with a mic at church it is of direct benefit to that church.                          
          Miscellaneous Commentary (My 2 cents):Whatever level you are at  you had to at some point develop youself. God gives us talent but WE must develop the skills. WE are responsible for our own development NOT God.

     :The churches that I work for (and most in general) don't really care much that music is my full time job, that I'm the sole breadwinner in my house, that I have a family, mortgage, 2 cars and payments and everything else that everyone has to deal with. Those things are of great importance to me, however, and therefore my fee cannot be left up to someone else to decide. They want the job done, preferably in excellence, preferably by a saved, Spirit-filled person.  I'm there to do a job, which includes worshiping God sincerely before an audience.  

      : Does anyone negotiate fees with their doctor? Or do we value their xpertise and xperience and just pay them? What we do in church is MORE important.  We help bring the presence of the Creator of the universe to people. In that presence lives can be changed for the good forever. Healings, deliverances and something as simple as making people open to hear the Spirit of God through the spoken Word of God.

     : How many times have you seen this scenario; A person is brought in to play for a church. Time goes on and they start adding choirs (senior, men's, childern's choir, band rehearsal, extra services, "revivals" etc..) and the pay or lack thereof stays the same while that person is now doing 3 or 4 more jobs.

    :I have seen, more often than not in my area, churches taking advantage of and/or abusing musicians. Yes, I'm aware that the primary resource of churches is people and folks can get used up like gasoline working(paid and volunteers) at church.  But, I've seen clear abuse. I've also seen churches bring on "heathens" just because they could play/sing. That to me indicates a lack of understanding by the administration or lack of care for the congregation.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2005, 01:55:04 AM »
Man its cats in bmore making atleast a $1,000 a sunday the demand is so high here cause most big churches have atleast 2-3 services and the musicians get paid for each service but the most i heard for a drummer here was like $350-$400

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2005, 02:15:13 AM »
Maybe I should move to Baltimore.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2005, 07:45:41 AM »
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Try this; Suppose you get paid just $10 per hour. You take 2hrs listening to, praying over, and selecting material to do. Take another 5 hrs learning to sing it, learning to play it, learning to do both simultaneously,and learning it well enough to teach it. 2hrs in rehearsal.  We're at $90 already. Add writing out charts, copying out lyrics, or making tapes/CDs for people and it goes up. Add a "pain in the neck" tax for the attitudes that you inevitably will have to deal with.  Do you see what I mean? Working the service is relatively easy by comparison./quote]Ok, I understand what you're saying when you put it like that.  Maybe because I know that I'm not a professional or as you stated, I know that there are people that can run cirlces around me...that's a confidence issue I have to deal with.  But when it comes to teaching my choir a song, I don't write out charts (which I'm wondering what that is) or write the lyrics down or make tapes.  When you mentioned about dealing with attitudes, that was reason enough for me to wanna charge  :lol: .  Well, thanks for the input and insight.
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