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« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2005, 10:12:26 AM »
Oh, I also want to add that the daddy was an NFL player for 12 years. He's got money. My girlfriend was his woman up until about 3 months into her pregnancy. Then, the guy just flaked out. He couldn't handle the pressure of being a real man I guess.

(Excuse me folks. I just need to vent a little.)

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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2005, 10:26:14 AM »
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Oh, I also want to add that the daddy was an NFL player for 12 years. He's got money. My girlfriend was his woman up until about 3 months into her pregnancy. Then, the guy just flaked out. He couldn't handle the pressure of being a real man I guess.

(Excuse me folks. I just need to vent a little.)


Now, THAT is so wrong ~ not that it wouldn't be wrong if he wasn't an NFL player.  But, like you said, the man has money.........money but no manhood!   :(

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« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2005, 10:47:42 AM »
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I am in a situation similar to this.  My future husband  :D  loves my son as his on and has done more for him in the time we've been together than his donor has his whole 5 years of being on the earth.  And I call him a donor (you know what goes before that) because he hasnt been a father or dad.  He's seen him 3 times in 5 years.  They cant say I havent done my part because they have invitations to every party, current pictures etc etc etc.  Whew.  Im doing all that because I know whos I am and its the right thing to do.  He could have died at birth (a premie 2lbs 13 ounces) but through much prayer and because of the anointing he has on his life God has allowed him to be a blessing for some many....and prophesying at 5!!!


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« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2005, 10:51:45 AM »
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I am in a situation similar to this.  My future husband  :D  loves my son as his on and has done more for him in the time we've been together than his donor has his whole 5 years of being on the earth.  And I call him a donor (you know what goes before that) because he hasnt been a father or dad.  He's seen him 3 times in 5 years.  They cant say I havent done my part because they have invitations to every party, current pictures etc etc etc.  Whew.  Im doing all that because I know whos I am and its the right thing to do.  He could have died at birth (a premie 2lbs 13 ounces) but through much prayer and because of the anointing he has on his life God has allowed him to be a blessing for some many....and prophesying at 5!!!


WOW 8O  :(


Okay maybe I should say the guy I would like  to be my future husband.... :oops:

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« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2005, 11:02:54 AM »
Another issue that is not taught much . . . but really needs to be addressed . . . is the issue of blended families.

Some great advice has been given here about involving children in relationships, and getting into relationships with people who already have a child by another person. But let me throw in another aspect that is usually not shared. This is different for different people, and like other things that have been posted, doesn't apply to everyone.

Many times people are not in faith, but in fantasy. Faith grows in a person's spirit and heart as they learn the Word of GOD . . . ALL OF IT. Faith changes the present situation into the reality that GOD has for His people. On the other hand, fantasy is just grabbing at straws, refusing to acknowledge personal responsibility for mistakes and sins, and getting angry when anyone brings truth to the table. Fantasy is a country club . . . to stay in fantasy, you have to find others who are willing to pretend and play with you; talking and dreaming but never really going anywhere.

As another poster said, people can go through great lengths just to start a new life with another person. This may include trying to cut the child's biological father or mother out of the picture. They want a fresh start with nothing to interrupt their new life. Fantasy. Again, this isn't everyone . . . but it is quite a few people.

That is not fair to the child. The child has a right to get to know and become close with their biological father. As close as the child and the new man in the mother's life may become (and that is beautiful) the child still has the right to know who their real father is  . . . unless of course that relationship would place the child in some type of hazard.

Abraham had a blended family. Isaac by Sarah, and Ishmael by Hagar. He wanted to just hope for the best, but Sarah saw danger for Isaac and she insisted that Abraham deal with the situation. Abraham was grieved for Ishmael, but when he prayed GOD told him to listen to Sarah.

Now, I am not saying that presnt issues should be settled how they settled issues back then. But blended families can present some challenges . . . challenges that many times are just ignored until disaster strikes. Sometimes people just want to wipe the slate clean and pretend that other people aren't in the picture. That may kinda work for a while . . . especially if one parent doesn't have any contact with the child or the child's family. But if the child's parent wants to be in the picture . . . the clean slate approach doesn't always work.

As a Bible teacher who has done some counseling with folks I know what I am talking about. Many times this is simply not taught . . .  people are just waiting for someone to pop out of thin air and make everything alright. However, it is not that simple . . . that is fantasy, not faith. The welfare and emotions of a child are now center stage.  

Many times we are ready for the challenges of blended families because these issues have not been taught.

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« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2005, 11:06:32 AM »
The only close experience I have with this situation is one of my older brother. He and his then-fiance' had a child together and then planned to get married...backwards thinking but at least they were planning on making things right...or so we all thought.
The day before their wedding we find out that the baby's mom has been having an affair with her boss at work and, frankly, had no plans of ending it and THEN took my brother to court for everything he's worth.
We also found out the the 2 children she'd already had were not from one man who had died and left her a widow (a story she had told everyone) but that they were each from 2 different men, both alive and well but very much out of the picture (might have well have been dead).

It was NASTY.

But let me tell you that my brother was there, financially and physically, for that child (and even the other 2, both of which my parents considered and treated like their own grand-children) up to and now beyond his 18th birthday despite the many evil snares and roadblocks that his mom put up to the contrary.

I only say this to let you know that there are men who make their children, no matter what the odds, their priority. Sadly, there are many who do not just as there are women who do and do not.

Thankfully, God's grace is sufficient...even though I know that must be hard to see and hold-to when the practical matters of life are right up in our face.
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« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2005, 11:09:50 AM »
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I am in a situation similar to this.  My future husband  :D  loves my son as his on and has done more for him in the time we've been together than his donor has his whole 5 years of being on the earth.  And I call him a donor (you know what goes before that) because he hasnt been a father or dad.  He's seen him 3 times in 5 years.  They cant say I havent done my part because they have invitations to every party, current pictures etc etc etc.  Whew.  Im doing all that because I know whos I am and its the right thing to do.  He could have died at birth (a premie 2lbs 13 ounces) but through much prayer and because of the anointing he has on his life God has allowed him to be a blessing for some many....and prophesying at 5!!!


WOW 8O  :(


Okay maybe I should say the guy I would like  to be my future husband.... :oops:


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« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2005, 11:33:04 AM »
I want to add that my girl isn't with me because of my money. Believe me. She's been involved with other guys who are plenty richer and prettier than me!

By the way BBoy, thank you for that post.

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« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2005, 11:39:38 AM »
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.... richer and prettier than me!.....


LMBO!!!!
I know this is a serious discussion but I had to laugh at that.... I never knew guys were pretty... Handsome, Foine, GQ, yes... but Pretty.... Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.... LMBO!!!!!!


Ok we now return you to you regularly scheduled discussion....


"Dead-beat baby Daddies and the women/men who want them to stand up and be Fathers to their kids"...

Back to you Ted....

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« Reply #49 on: November 09, 2005, 11:46:28 AM »
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.... richer and prettier than me!.....


LMBO!!!!
I know this is a serious discussion but I had to laugh at that.... I never knew guys were pretty... Handsome, Foine, GQ, yes... but Pretty.... Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.... LMBO!!!!!!


Ok we now return you to you regularly scheduled discussion....


"Dead-beat baby Daddies and the women/men who want them to stand up and be Fathers to their kids"...

Back to you Ted....


lol  :lol:

I meant pretty as in "pretty boy." I'm not a pretty boy. I can't explain what a pretty boy is, but I know one when I see one. Maybe it's just a term we use around here in these here parts where I'm from.  :wink:

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« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2005, 12:09:08 PM »
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lol  :lol:

I meant pretty as in "pretty boy." I'm not a pretty boy. I can't explain what a pretty boy is, but I know one when I see one. Maybe it's just a term we use around here in these here parts where I'm from.  :wink:


Hmmmm.....this gives me an idea for a new thread!  :D  Look for it soon!

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« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2005, 12:21:36 PM »
DBG, Playhear, &Nakia:

I'm not in this particular situation (praise God), but I do have many, many friends who are.  Out of all the friends I have in this situation (baby momma/daddy drama), it's amazing how they are having the same problem.  These friends of mine are male.  One of them has moved the mother from Georgia to Nebraska to be with him.  He takes care of his son, and is currently the ONLY one of the two working.  Guess what happens whenever they get into an argument?  She THREATENS to take the baby and return home, and dances around the topic of perhaps NOT allowing him to see his son!  This is just evil.  She uses this each time she gets mad at him.  This woman who has a good "baby daddy", is messing up.

The other friend has a deeper problem.  He works and takes care of his daughter.  The mother's life style is not good for her daughter.  The mother has chosen to be an "exotic dancer", not a good model for her girl.  The father has pleaded with her to find another way to earn money, but to no avail.  (She was NOT in this line of work when they met).  Now, this girl has taunted my friend with the same threats of not allowing him to see his daughter.  Of course this makes him upset (esp since she likes to say this stuff over the phone) and he goes to her home (parents' home) where she lives to talk to her about it.  The last time he did that, he ended up in jail.  

Regardless of how some people may feel about the whole 'race' issue, racism STILL exists.  Both of these fathers are Black and the mothers are white.  They both live in NEBRASKA.  The other state involved is Georgia (not known for racial equality).  These are just two of my friends out of quite a few more, but they all have the same problem; mothers who like to use their kids as weapons against the fathers.  My point is, there are many, many good baby daddy's out there, but the way media and the world in general like to portray things is from the negative side.  The world loves to attack the fathers.  This is NOT fair.  

I know that there are many dads out there who STOPPED paying child support until the mother agrees to let them see their kids.  (The father eventually loses this battle to the law).  It's truly sad that this is happening in our community.  I wish more people would understand that the only people really suffering from these feuds are the kids.   :(
As for the fathers who don't even attempt to see their kids, SHAME ON THEM!  They'll be sorry later.  That's a lot of lost time that can never be made up.   :cry:

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« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2005, 11:41:01 PM »
This is a very interesting topic.  I would like to share my experience.  I'll try not to be longwinded.

My oldest son's father took me to court for primary custody and wanted me to pay him child support.  At the time, technically our son lived with him, because I worked at night and he during the day.  Long story short the battle was reversed.  I have primary custody and he pays child support and it's through the court.  The sad thing is when he was told when the first payment is to submitted to the court he came up with these excuses.  The judge says that her main concern was for the child.  She didn't care about his car note, insurance, rent etc.  We were in and out of court for over a year.  Theres still some minor kinks. He picks up our son every weekend (even though most of the time he is at work and our son is staying with someone else).  We alternate Holidays and share a month each for summer vacation.  Of course I have to keep up with the details or he will conviently forget.  

It's a tough situation.  I'm not the mother that will try to keep the daddy from his child.  I don't care for him too much... I don't disrespect him or say anything negative about him around our son.  That's a hard thing to do.  

I saw someone else post of something similar, he didn't want no other man to be called daddy.  This is funny, he married and my son is calling the other woman mommy and nothing is wrong with that.  Again, I bite my tongue.  I did talk to my baby to make sure he knew who his mother was.  I've noticed lately that when he speak of her he says my stepmother.

Just thought I would share my story.

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« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2005, 09:35:42 PM »
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Uniquepraise, you sound so much like my girlfriend, it's scary. Almost every fact you put out there is the same as my girlfriend's situation. My girlfriend sends pictures and goes out of her way to include the daddy. He's not responsive like a daddy should be. I told her that we don't need him, but there's some kind of higher power working there. So, I'm afraid to get too involved sometimes. Anyway, her 7 year old daughter was a premi. She was born at 6 months. It took $1 million to keep the daughter and mom alive at birth. Now, this girl is a strong, bundle of energy. She's naturally super fast. She's 7, and I have to bust out in a full stride to beat her in a 100m dash. Her daddy was a track star. If I said too much more, I might reveal somebody's identity up in here. So, I have to stop there.


Ok see stop!!  My son is a communicator and very active. Loves to play talk sing talk play the drums and can keep the beat and did I mention talk!!! lol  :D
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