Topic: I played a Reuban Studdard song!!! GOD HELP!!!! (Read 4728 times)

thapreacha · « **on:** February 24, 2004, 03:39:20 PM »

Praise the lord everyone. I had a married friend of mine confide in me that he and his wife were having problems. He asked if I could help them get back to the fun times that he remembered. One way of doing that was for him to sing a love song to his wife and he asked if I would play it. I did not hesitate to say yes. He is my friend and my brother, plus the wong he was singing (Sorry for 2004) was not at all out the box, so I learned it and did it. Is this ok?

I would like to get some oppinions.

Thanks,
Preach

ElderE · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2004, 05:12:47 PM »

I think you did good!! In a way you helped restore a marriage!! Or at least, that's what -I- think!!??!! I don't think your fingers will fall off for that one...hey, I'm curious to see those chords...maybe you could post them????

Peace.
ElderE

Lady-n-Keys · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2004, 10:51:06 PM »

WHY was music created by God? Did he create music to give him praise or to give each other praise? Even as ugly as it may sound to some, Music was given or created to minister to God the Father, and to bring Worship to God Basically anything extra is something outside of the purpose God intended for music to be. You know, old lucifer tried to get Jesus to worship Him, and he's also trying to get us as Christians or even non Christians to do the same. Satan is still looking for worshippers. Singing and playing music period is very powerful in itself and it affects your spirit But if this music is not of the Holy Spirit than what spirit is it of. The devil has caused many people to be confused about music, even myself. As a musician, you try to listen to everything so you can be well rounded, but I had to stop listening to just anything, because, my spirit was affected. And another thing, if you're just going to use your musical gift to move others emotionally or impress people, then we have the wrong motive. God's music is beyond that. Music should minister life, and truth because it is presenting Jesus. God has increased Christian music so much that, we don't need the worlds music anymore. God is causing there to be a separation. And its to the point that, there's no question about what is of God and what is not. Music is so wide as far as the category, and you say, what music is not of god and what is. Well you have the pretty songs that are for your wife or husband. Read phil 4:8 and replace "things" with "songs" Ask yourself who or what does the song you sing or music you play exal. Is the answer the flesh, world, satan or God. I didn't mean to say all that. but I've once been soo confused about music, secular vs. gospel. And I ask God to show me what he requires of me involving the one thing that I love so dearly and that music. Of course the devil wants you to be confused because, music is one of the most powerful instruments. Satan is mad because we as musicians are doing what he was suppose to do. And guess what I'm gonna keep on making him mad because I'm giving what God has given to me only to him. Be blessed. Great post you guys keep this up, you never know who it may bless. Night

zacke12 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2004, 07:23:34 AM »

I think it was a good thing to play that song for them. So many Christian marriages are falling apart because spouses are scare to step outside the box of John P. Kee and Fred hammond. I think it was well needed to play that song for them. I also think that just because someone play a song that is not traditionally a toe-tapping knee bending song does not mean they are playing for the devil. I know when I get married I intend on serenading my wife with Reuben and other artists that send messages of love in their lyrics. I do however see a problem with listening to extreme sexual perverse MESS, because that stuff will harm your spirit, but I don't see anything wrong with letting your spouse know how you feel through song or poetry. Once again this issue has to do with spiritual maturity and conviction of the Holy Spirit.

Lady-n-keys you did make a good point though about being confused and I think that is where the error takes place in the first place.

thapreacha · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:51:45 AM »

So, where do we as, musicians for christ, draw the line? Jazz, Blues, "Clean R&B", or just Gospel?

SisterT · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2004, 08:53:28 AM »

My church had a Marriage Conference Friday night which I and my husband were the keynote speakers.

The theme was "Circle of Unity" and they did a wonderful thing. A couple came up to the front of the church and lit a unity candle and then they danced to a love song that a singer was singing. The song was one that was frequently played on radio stations. It was nice and in good taste.

Also, at on point, a husband sang "One in A Million:. I thought that was nice and romantic too. This too was done in the church's sanctuary.

I believe in both cases, God was glorified, and nobody but the devil was mad!! If a song's lyrics is in good taste and does not bring shame upon the body of Christ, go for it! Satan is trying to destroy marriages. We need to thank God when marriages are strengthened by any godly means necessary!

piano-lady · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2004, 02:30:53 PM »

I remember a discussion like this a couple of years ago and there were many view points then too. I cannot understand how a person can say all music must be for the "Glory of God" or you will die and go to hell for the error of your way!!!
Get a grip!
There are many genres of music, and yes, Godly music is my favorite, but, ....I just can't help it.....I actually cannot control the urge to sing "Happy Birthday" or, since I'm a elem. teacher, "The Wheels on the bus Goes Round and Round". When I get home, my preschool daughter WILL be watching Barney and I WILL be singing with her!
Lord help us!
I do not uphold all types of music. Anything that embraces sin, disgraceful acts, etc. is wrong.
Just my opinion.

And...if you can sing a love song to the Lord that you love, why can't you sing a love song to the spouse/lover (yes, lover) in your life? God does not have a monopoly going on with the love songs! I don't recall God saying that in my Bible.
Roline, Happy B'day, and I would loved to have seen the display of love at the conference you spoke of.

thekeynote · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2004, 05:33:23 PM »

As a secular and gospel musician, I have to speak on the repeated bringing up of this topic. I know the new people have not been privey to these prior conversations, but because I make money as both a secular and gospel musician, it strongly offends me when people get so holy and righteous and one sided on this issue.

This is my thought: The church (the black church) is full of women. Women probably out number the men 4 to 1 or perhaps even more. The black church is full of women with children, single women raising children. Uh, how did the child get here? Momma was rollin' at one time. And then they get so righteous they can't listen to a love song??? THAT is hypocrital if you ask me.

Secondly, the sanctity of any relationship that is intimate and of a romantic nature can certainly have many sides, including spiritual, mental, emotional and physical. Did the pastor's kids just happen to get here too? No, they were rollin' also.

As for the music, when Christian people make love, do they listen to Donnie McClurkin, Joe Pace, Albertina Walker, "Praise Is What I Do"? Is their life so sterile that they can't even let go for that? Maybe they just lay there like third base in utter silence and wait for it to be over, counting the cracks in the ceiling.

If you love to dine out (as I do) are these holy-rollers casting out the devil and binding satan during the entire meal while the Musak system is playing background music? "Lord Jesus, let me finish this meal quick before my soul is burning in hell for eternity."

Further, and finally--who wants to be around church-folk all the time? Not me. Everywhere I eat, socialize, enjoy the fruits of my labor in my leisure time? No way! Mind you, I'm not out fornicating, doing drugs, or drinking--I'm just enjoying life! I went to a dinner with some "church folk" two weeks ago. The program started late, the food was awful, and it was the most boring dinner conversation I've experienced in a long, long time.

As Bishop Noel Jones said: "If you ever get delivered from anything in your life, make sure you get delivered from church folk!" Amen to that!

Lisa

thekeynote · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2004, 05:44:52 PM »

Quote from: thapreacha

So, where do we as, musicians for christ, draw the line? Jazz, Blues, "Clean R&B", or just Gospel?

I think you draw the line for yourself--do what is right in your heart. I really take offense to this "Cult-like" dialogue. People are impressionable, and they are impressionable by "Cult-like" dialogue as well. I am 42 years old and not impressed by much, but there are 14, 15, 16 year olds here who are. People have committed suicide over standards that other people and the world set for them (NOT God) but man does it. We often hear of teenagers and adults killing themselves because they can never "measure up" to what the church says they should be, their parents, friends, etc. Man drives you into the ground, what you can and cannot do, and interpreting as well as misinterpreting the scriptures to fit their own agenda. Man guilt trips people, NOT God. These people will be accountable for their words and deeds in the last days.

Today, we have cell phones, beepers, CD's, mini CD's compared to a time over 2000 years ago when there was dirt and that was about it. It's impossible for anyone to know what God thinks about anything. Don't let anyone brainwash you into what is sin and what isn't, what's going to save you and what is sending you to hell, particularly something like this.

Peace & Paradise,
Lisa

chesteeboy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2004, 06:06:11 PM »

i think that was a very nice thing to do i would have done the same you think you could get me those cords just in case im having a rainy day with my wife.

thekeynote · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2004, 10:04:14 PM »

Quote from: chesteeboy

i think that was a very nice thing to do i would have done the same you think you could get me those cords just in case im having a rainy day with my wife.

LOL!!

SisterT · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2004, 09:44:27 AM »

Quote from: piano-lady

Roline, Happy B'day, and I would loved to have seen the display of love at the conference you spoke of.

Thanks for the birthday shout out!

Ruth, the display of love and atmoshere of love for God & for spouses was so high that if you weren't in the mood, your attitude was changed. During the program, I told my husband we needed to go home and get our worship on!!! :oops: :lol:

thapreacha · « **Reply #12 on:** February 26, 2004, 10:06:22 AM »

Thanks everyone for the comments. I really learned alot. And I think that the overall opinion is that everyone has to draw their OWN line!

By the way for anyone wanting the chords here they are:
(not infront of the keyboard so bear with me)

also my first post and I am not proud that it is a R&B song!!

LH /RH

C / Ab,C,Eb, F

Ab / Gb,C,Eb,F

A / A,C#,E,A

This is the groove for the whole song!

Dredakyst · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2004, 03:01:43 PM »

Quote from: thapreacha

Thanks everyone for the comments. I really learned alot. And I think that the overall opinion is that everyone has to draw their OWN line!

There it is.. as long as it don't causes one to stumble....

My minister said it best.. you can do whatever you want as long as it don't causes you to sin....

Quote from: SisterT

During the program, I told my husband we needed to go home and get our worship on!!! :oops: :lol:

Too funny.... Tonex has a song dedicated to his wife called:

Let's Run a Revival
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=716790&q=Hi

and

WHO
http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=716707&q=Hi

preachaman76 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2004, 09:43:55 AM »

:idea: I don't see where there is a problem. He wanted to sing a love song to his wife. He was in order by wanting to make the rights wrong with his wife and you assisted in this. It is important for us to encourage our brothers and sisters. The enemy seems to be targeting marriage.

preachaman76 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 28, 2004, 09:45:49 AM »

...by making the wrongs right.
sorry

Jniles_NCF · « **Reply #16 on:** September 28, 2004, 02:31:50 PM »

hey i know this may be too late but the whole song of solomon was a love song and it's in the bible, and he said some things that in his time may have been considered vulgar or as we think not fit for the bible, but all in all it was included. God set up marriage and family and i don't think He would be mad if you were trying to help someone restore or help prolong their marriage.

T-Block · « **Reply #17 on:** September 28, 2004, 08:52:15 PM »

Well, in my opinion I say that if it don't bother you to listen to something, then it's alright for you to listen to it. I have no doubt that when I get married, me and my wife will be playing some love music to set the mood and get our u know what on.

One more thing, just because someone listens to love music with their significant other, that doesn't mean that they would rather listen to that type of music than gospel, I think music should be played to fit the mood or atmosphere that is there at the time.

key-wiz · « **Reply #18 on:** September 29, 2004, 12:52:47 PM »

Good Jod the preacha

I believe God was Pleased :wink:

key-wiz · « **Reply #19 on:** September 29, 2004, 12:54:21 PM »

Good Job Sorry :oops:

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