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Offline TwinkieClarkFan

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Kim Burrell on Organ
« on: March 11, 2006, 01:44:31 PM »
I've heard that Kim is a beast on the organ...has anyone ever heard her play the organ before?
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2006, 01:49:18 PM »
I've Heard her play before both piano and organ. On her cd Everlasting Life there are several tracks where she is playing piano and organ.
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2006, 02:29:39 PM »
She is awesome a lot of what we organists do now comes from stuff she did all throughout the 70's and 80's

On any of of her albulms you hear her doing her thing she even plays on some of karen clarks albulms

p j demonstrates a inversion run she does a lot in fact she is famous for it.

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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2006, 04:53:09 PM »
no but her husband plays here in baltimore at CRL and he's nice
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2006, 09:04:02 AM »
let me correct you on that Chris "butch" Woodie is the reason you many organist play like we do today. I sure that ever state has like that person that is like the king of that state on the organ and you guys heard them play and steal (learn) music for them. But if you Would ask if they ever heard of butch Woodie I am preety sure they will say "MAN YEAH" dude is sick. I even heard the Kim burrel Begged for butch to play for her and he turned her down. Now dude was tripp'n for that. But Butch turns almost everbody famous down. he use to play some chuch and got like $1,200 a sunday. but he quit that for some reason. now he just kinda helps his dad out at Kennerly Temple COGIC in STL. If u guy wont to hear some of is work go to www. showmethat.com and then go to hall of fame he has two hymns on the one It is well and the other yes lord now the stuff on here is like soooo wack compared to what he can do but its tight to us still if that makes any sense.  :D
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2006, 09:14:44 AM »
WOW....
Interesting....
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2006, 09:50:58 AM »
YEs that was interesting but you know That being said me and a lot of the cats I play with  includig  pJ morgan who on his video demonstrated a run and said Twinki lark does thi a lot.  credit the runs and  licks  from her
Probably because she recorded and bought the sound out that is whay she gets credit but even if she was not the original she was responsible for me playing in that style because I heard her do it and I imitated her licks.

If she got it from him so be it but she is still the one who popularized it and there fore the one I give credit to. so because she recorded and brought that woodie sound to the nation then who was really responsible for the influence gettin out??

Its similar to the martial arts thing Karate came from a shaolin monk washed up on the shore of okinawa

when the karate craze hit the us and everyone was getting into it

I wouldnt say it was really shaolin that was responsible for everryone doing karate

no it was really karate that was responsible for karate

Shaolin buried their knowledge kept it hidden

karate systems taught it

butch stayed in his home town twinkie recorded internationally

But  I aaint taking anything away from the brother

I never heard him and i will check him out

just i think that we are quick to say something is right or wrong and I believe there are several ways to look at something

You may not agree with me but that does not make me wrong just a differnt view point

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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2006, 09:57:40 AM »
Everybody I know that talks about this Butch Woodie, makes it sound like he's the baddest organist on the planet!

I'm not gon' say the brotha isn't bad as all get out - but I doubt he's the greatest. The world is much bigger than St Louis, you know?
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2006, 10:12:10 AM »
aww naw man i feel you.You right you right.This is kinda wack that butch wont play for anybody but thats cool at least i get to hear him ever sunday night.
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2006, 10:16:35 AM »
 ???
 I relize that? but You must have EVER heard Butch with your own hears have you?
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2006, 10:36:39 AM »
Quote from: jomo7 on March 14, 2006, 09:04:02 AM
let me correct you on that Chris "butch" Woodie is the reason you many organist play like we do today. I sure that ever state has like that person that is like the king of that state on the organ and you guys heard them play and steal (learn) music for them. But if you Would ask if they ever heard of butch Woodie I am preety sure they will say "MAN YEAH" dude is sick. I even heard the Kim burrel Begged for butch to play for her and he turned her down. Now dude was tripp'n for that. But Butch turns almost everbody famous down. he use to play some chuch and got like $1,200 a sunday. but he quit that for some reason. now he just kinda helps his dad out at Kennerly Temple COGIC in STL. If u guy wont to hear some of is work go to www. showmethat.com and then go to hall of fame he has two hymns on the one It is well and the other yes lord now the stuff on here is like soooo wack compared to what he can do but its tight to us still if that makes any sense.  :D


Hey-hey-hey!!!   It's ya' boy, FINGERZ!!!      Since I moved down here to ATL, I haven't heard any (ANY!!!) tight organists in it's metropolitain & surrounding areas    I'm from St. Louis, but I have traveled the world & have mt musicians from all walks of life.  Rich, homeless, black, white, or whateva'!!!!   But this cat named Christopher "Butch" Woodie, iz "Tha' Truth, Tha' Whole Truth, & Nuttin' But Tha' Truth!!!"    Don't get me wrong, everyone iz respectable in their own right, but God has blessed Butch with dominance...   
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 11:08:52 AM »
Quote from: jomo7 on March 14, 2006, 10:16:35 AM
???
 I relize that? but You must have EVER heard Butch with your own hears have you?

I've heard him on showmethat.com...

Don't get me wrong man ... that dude is ridiculously nice - however, to claim him king maybe jumping the gun a bit.
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 12:37:59 PM »
Hey listen up people it is all relative if Some people let me correct that if a lot of people feel that woodie is the man

whatever dude that is there perceptoin based on whatever information they had

and you know there is nothing like hearing soemone live

there is an element of connecting to your audience that you will never capture wqtching a showme that .com clip

what I am saying is that it is fine to leave peopl;e with their opinion while at the same time expressing your own.

Many many people think woodie is the best.

We can qualify best if we want to

but the only way to really do this is to have a real all out battle of the big boys on the B3 that would be a hot thing to see

If LG,M
could get

twinkie my girl
Butch woodie
melvin
Kevin Bond
and whoever else to do their thing but you know what

I know that Butch heyward wouldnt want to do that because he is too humble for that

and probably butch woodie is too that is why he had to be begged to play on an album (i am just guessing)

so this idea we have of who is king is irrevelant

we all have people who move us who connect to us who give us an experience

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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2006, 01:32:50 PM »
Quote from: MaestroDivine on March 14, 2006, 09:57:40 AM
Everybody I know that talks about this Butch Woodie, makes it sound like he's the baddest organist on the planet!

I'm not gon' say the brotha isn't bad as all get out - but I doubt he's the greatest. The world is much bigger than St Louis, you know?


A YO ME AND M.D. HAVE HAD THIS TALK B4. AND IT KINDA GO OUT OF HAND. AND ACTUALLY I GOT PREETY P***ED OFF ABOUT IT. BUT IM GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.

BUTCH IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!

I'M TELLING YOU. ONCE YOU HERE THIS GUY YOU WILL GO NUTTZ.


AND FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, KIM BURRELL DOES ACTUALLY GO CRAZY FOR HIM. FOR A PRIME EXAMPLE. ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ME FROM ST. LOUIS WILL KNOW THAT I USUALLY HANG AROUND MY UNCLES, MIKE HARPER, ISADORE (punkin) KING, RICHARD (june bug) BROWN, ROB WOODIE, BUTCH WOODIE, AND MEVIN MOORE. AND ANYWHERE THEY GO THEY KICK IT TOGETHER. AND ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ONE OF THEM USUALLY KNOWS ALL OF THEM.


SO LAST NOVEMBER DURING THE HOLY CONVOCATION IN MEMPHIS, MYSELF, MIKE, ISADORE, AND JUNE WERE SOMEWHERE EATING ON THURSDAY AND WE SAW KIM BURRELL LEAVING AND WE ALL WENT TO SPEAK TO HER B/C THE YEAR BEFORE BUTCH INTRODUCED US TO HER. SO WHEN WE SAW EACH OTHER SHE KEPT ASKING ABOUT BUTCH AND WE SAID THAT HE WASN'T COMING UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT. SO SHE WAS LIKE ARIGHT COOL. SHE WANTED HIM AND ROB TO PLAY FOR HER IF SHE SUNG. I THOUGHT WOW KIM BURRELL IS GOING TO BE SINGING WITH BUTCH PLAYING BEHIND HER. (st. louisians, can you imagine that?) SO ATFERWARDS WE SAW HER IN A HOTEL LOBBY FRIDAY AND SHE WAS ASKING WERE BUTCH WAS B/C SHE WANTED TO GO OVER A COUPLE SONGS WITH HIM ON THE PIANO IN THE LOBBY OF THE HOTEL. AND WE HAD TO TELL THAT BUTCH SAID THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO COME. (at the last minute) IT BROKE HER HEART. SHE DIDN'T EVAN SING THAT NIGHT.






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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2006, 02:11:16 PM »
That kind of solidifies my point that people have experiences and I dont think anyone should minimize that.

I never heard him play hopefully I will but in the mean time lets just enjoy peoples annointing

I know butch Heyward doesent even take credit of his playing he gives all the glory to God

so lets keep it Holy and say God really uses that brother or that Sister

Thanks Catron for sharing that with us

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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2006, 02:25:12 PM »
to answer the "original" question Kim can definately get busy on the organ.  i heard her play behind a preacher who is a beast on organ (Shawn Tyson) and he lost his mind...also her husband Jojo Wiley is very conservative he plays like David Banner but he REALLY IS THE INCREDIBLE HULK...BELIEVE THAT
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2006, 04:46:28 PM »
my bad

I was thinking twinkie clark

I dont know why I thought Twinkie Clark

no I never heard kim on the organ

I feel really stupid right now
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2006, 04:58:25 PM »
Quote from: CATRON on March 14, 2006, 01:32:50 PM

A YO ME AND M.D. HAVE HAD THIS TALK B4. AND IT KINDA GO OUT OF HAND. AND ACTUALLY I GOT PREETY P***ED OFF ABOUT IT. BUT IM GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.

BUTCH IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!

I'M TELLING YOU. ONCE YOU HERE THIS GUY YOU WILL GO NUTTZ.


AND FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, KIM BURRELL DOES ACTUALLY GO CRAZY FOR HIM. FOR A PRIME EXAMPLE. ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ME FROM ST. LOUIS WILL KNOW THAT I USUALLY HANG AROUND MY UNCLES, MIKE HARPER, ISADORE (punkin) KING, RICHARD (june bug) BROWN, ROB WOODIE, BUTCH WOODIE, AND MEVIN MOORE. AND ANYWHERE THEY GO THEY KICK IT TOGETHER. AND ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ONE OF THEM USUALLY KNOWS ALL OF THEM.


SO LAST NOVEMBER DURING THE HOLY CONVOCATION IN MEMPHIS, MYSELF, MIKE, ISADORE, AND JUNE WERE SOMEWHERE EATING ON THURSDAY AND WE SAW KIM BURRELL LEAVING AND WE ALL WENT TO SPEAK TO HER B/C THE YEAR BEFORE BUTCH INTRODUCED US TO HER. SO WHEN WE SAW EACH OTHER SHE KEPT ASKING ABOUT BUTCH AND WE SAID THAT HE WASN'T COMING UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT. SO SHE WAS LIKE ARIGHT COOL. SHE WANTED HIM AND ROB TO PLAY FOR HER IF SHE SUNG. I THOUGHT WOW KIM BURRELL IS GOING TO BE SINGING WITH BUTCH PLAYING BEHIND HER. (st. louisians, can you imagine that?) SO ATFERWARDS WE SAW HER IN A HOTEL LOBBY FRIDAY AND SHE WAS ASKING WERE BUTCH WAS B/C SHE WANTED TO GO OVER A COUPLE SONGS WITH HIM ON THE PIANO IN THE LOBBY OF THE HOTEL. AND WE HAD TO TELL THAT BUTCH SAID THAT HE WASN'T GOING TO COME. (at the last minute) IT BROKE HER HEART. SHE DIDN'T EVAN SING THAT NIGHT.






HOLLA



Hey, just say Butch Woodie is great and leave it at that. If you're going to say he's the greatest, at least explain what makes you feel so strongly that he is? I don't care about his gigs, or what he turned down. I'm talking about pure ability. A resume doesn't make you a great player. It simply means you've worked...

Sooo.....? I mean, you do understand ... because he is a great player - and you're so close to him, that that leads me to believe you're overly biased. Secondly, do you know how many great musicians their are in the world?? To say that one guy is the best, is a bit much, you don't think?

See, I've been called a great organist myself - and I'm not exactly as easy to impress as some other organist's. Not because I'm full of myself .... however, the more you've heard/accomplished .. the more difficult it is to impress you. That's just a fact of life.

Sooo ... give me some type of sound, OBJECTIVE explanation ...other than the fact that you & a lot of his other fans think he's the greatest.
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Re: Kim Burrell on Organ
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2006, 05:09:56 PM »
sounds fair you could rate on these criteria what he does within these criteria

what about on
originilatiy

creativity

chords

runs

pedal work

soloing

groove

rhythym

hymns

shouts

talk music

drawbar sounds

tricks

chord and harmonic sound variety and appropriateness to the occasion
these are some criteria
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2006, 05:10:58 PM »
Quote from: Fingerz on March 14, 2006, 10:36:39 AM

Hey-hey-hey!!!   It's ya' boy, FINGERZ!!!      Since I moved down here to ATL, I haven't heard any (ANY!!!) tight organists in it's metropolitain & surrounding areas    I'm from St. Louis, but I have traveled the world & have mt musicians from all walks of life.  Rich, homeless, black, white, or whateva'!!!!   But this cat named Christopher "Butch" Woodie, iz "Tha' Truth, Tha' Whole Truth, & Nuttin' But Tha' Truth!!!"    Don't get me wrong, everyone iz respectable in their own right, but God has blessed Butch with dominance...   

Post something, man!

Hey, if this cat is the G.O.A.T., then I need to hear him play! I mean, why wouldn't I want to? I said I was gonna take a trip down to St. Louis JUST to hear him; but I'll need to know when I can catch him. Maybe I'll contact CATRON...
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