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Offline ai3winner

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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2006, 01:51:46 AM »
Okay,

Im totally lost!!!!!!!!!!!! Please explain what u guys are trying to say as basic as possible  :)  What would these chords be used for? When would you play these chords?
Also, this went in the following order: I, I7, 6, 5, 4 , when I played that, it didnt sound good at all. Now, it must be me since Im not grasping the concept, please break it down.

What do you mean by passing chord?
Help me !!!!!  :)

Please answer those questions. You guys are great!

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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2006, 10:11:54 AM »
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What would these chords be used for? When would you play these chords?

You can play this where it fits, i.e. anytime you are going from 1 to 4 in a song.

What do you mean by passing chord?

Passing / filler chords are just chords that are thrown in here and there to fill in the spaces between the important chords, or the chords that have to be played.  Usually, the important chords are the chords you play with the words of a song.  The passing / filler chords are the chords in between the words when people are adlibing with stuff like "ohhh, yeaaa, etc." They don't have to always be chords, they can also be runs, which are parts of scales.  Here is an example using the song "Thank You Lord":

C / G-C-E Thank  (important chord)
E / G-B-D You  (important chord)
A / E-G-C Lord  (important chord)
A / E-A-C#  *passing / filler chord
B / F-Ab-B-D  *passing / filler chord
C# / G-Bb-C#-E  *passing / filler chord
D / A-D-F Thank  (important chord)
F# / F#-A-C-E You  (important chord)
G / F-G-C-D Lord  (important chord)
G / F-G-B-D  *passing / filler chord
Run w/both hands:  F, E, D, C  *passing / filler run
B / A-D-F Thank  (important chord)
E / G#-C-D-G You  (important chord)
A / G-B-D Lord  (important chord)
A / E-A-C#  *passing / filler chord
B / F-Ab-B-D  *passing / filler chord
C# / G-Bb-C#-E  *passing / filler chord
D / A-D-F I
E / G-C-E just
F / F-A-D want to
D / F#-A-C-E thank
G / F-G-B-D You
/ C Lord

Turnaround (chords to get back to beginning):

F / E-A-C  *passing / filler chord
E / D-G-C  *passing / filler chord
D / F-A-C  *passing / filler chord
C / E-G-C  *passing / filler chord
E, F, F# /  *passing / filler run
G / F-A-C  ohhh  *passing / filler chord
(repeat)

Now, take a close look at the song.  You see where the important chords are, they are the chords with the words.  Now, do you see how much space is between the words?  Insteading of just sitting there doing nothing, you can play passing / filler chords to occupy those spaces.  Do you understand that?  If not, I'll keep explaining until u get it.
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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2006, 01:04:10 PM »
Again T-block this is perfect. If I was to add anything to this , I would say that ear training is a big part of this, cause with the ear training he or she would also be able to understand filler or passing chords or notes. The Bishop
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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2006, 04:54:09 PM »
Hey TBlock,

I just wanted to say that I applaud you for taking time with your posts.  Not only do you explain things well, but you
make sure you have spelled out the notes correctly, and used correct spelling, punctuation, and all dat dere!.   :D

Seriously,

One mispelled chord can really hurt somebody who thinks they're catching on to the concepts.  I know, I've had it
happen to me.

But I can tell that you take your time, for the benefit of us beginners, and I want you to know that I appreciate it!
So let's all follow in TBlocks shoes, and read what we write, before we post up!

Amen?

God bless,
Eggs

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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2006, 06:50:20 PM »
Hey TBlock,

I just wanted to say that I applaud you for taking time with your posts.  Not only do you explain things well, but you
make sure you have spelled out the notes correctly, and used correct spelling, punctuation, and all dat dere!.   :D

Seriously,

One mispelled chord can really hurt somebody who thinks they're catching on to the concepts.  I know, I've had it
happen to me.

But I can tell that you take your time, for the benefit of us beginners, and I want you to know that I appreciate it!
So let's all follow in TBlocks shoes, and read what we write, before we post up!

Amen?

God bless,
Eggs



Yo, that's good and true. One misspelled chord and *sounding like Howard Cosell*  "IT'S OVA, OVA!!".
And yes, when one is trying to read the explanations, it does help to have proper grammar and punctuation.


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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2006, 02:30:25 PM »
T-Block

I've been studying my theory, so I already knew the things in your post......until you said the C7 resolving to the F put you, temporarily in the key of F!!!!  You more experienced theory heads probably knew that LONG ago, but that's a serious new tidbit for me!  Hmmmm.  So would one way of switching to a different key (permanently) be to just play the V7 to the I of the key you're changing to? (like when someone's singing a song where they take raise the key a semitones every few verses)

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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2006, 04:26:11 PM »
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So would one way of switching to a different key (permanently) be to just play the V7 to the I of the key you're changing to? (like when someone's singing a song where they take raise the key a semitones every few verses)

If that fits in a song, then yeah you could do it.  But, a better way, or should I say, a more simpler way to modulate like that is to play the 4 chord with the 5th in the bass of the key you are going to.  Examples:

C to Db

C / G-C-E *old key
Ab / Gb-Bb-Db *modulation chord (5th in Db / 4 chord in Db)
Db / F-Ab-Db *new key*

F# to Bb

F# / C#-F#-A# *old key
F / Bb-Eb-G *modulation chord (5th in Bb / 4 chord in Bb)
Bb / Bb-D-F *new key

You get the idea right? 
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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2006, 04:28:30 PM »
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Again T-block this is perfect. If I was to add anything to this , I would say that ear training is a big part of this, cause with the ear training he or she would also be able to understand filler or passing chords or notes. The Bishop

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Hey TBlock,

I just wanted to say that I applaud you for taking time with your posts.  Not only do you explain things well, but you
make sure you have spelled out the notes correctly, and used correct spelling, punctuation, and all dat dere!.   

Seriously,

One mispelled chord can really hurt somebody who thinks they're catching on to the concepts.  I know, I've had it
happen to me.

But I can tell that you take your time, for the benefit of us beginners, and I want you to know that I appreciate it!
So let's all follow in TBlocks shoes, and read what we write, before we post up!

Amen?

God bless,
Eggs

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Yo, that's good and true. One misspelled chord and *sounding like Howard Cosell*  "IT'S OVA, OVA!!".
And yes, when one is trying to read the explanations, it does help to have proper grammar and punctuation.


Thanks, Teach for all that you do.

Everybody, you are all welcome!!!  Thanks for the support!!!
Real musicians play in every key!!!
Music Theory, da numbers work!

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Re: I to IV Progression
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2006, 09:50:02 AM »
If that fits in a song, then yeah you could do it.  But, a better way, or should I say, a more simpler way to modulate like that is to play the 4 chord with the 5th in the bass of the key you are going to.  Examples:

C to Db

C / G-C-E *old key
Ab / Gb-Bb-Db *modulation chord (5th in Db / 4 chord in Db)
Db / F-Ab-Db *new key*

F# to Bb

F# / C#-F#-A# *old key
F / Bb-Eb-G *modulation chord (5th in Bb / 4 chord in Bb)
Bb / Bb-D-F *new key

You get the idea right? 

Gotcha.   Thanks Doc
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