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WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« on: July 27, 2006, 08:15:13 AM »
HI LGM FAMILY

I am trying to get my practise roster sorted so??? i need help on what a daily workout should look like
considering my 9-5 , and my practise room not being sound proof

what does YAW'LLS Roster look like

eg: monday - rudiments (2hrs)
     teusday - chill out
     wednesday- chill out
     thursday - chill out
     friday- chill out
     sat - chill out
     sunday- holy ghost inspired drumming WOW MAN I AM TIRED REPEAT CYCLE

LOL!!!!!!!!! OKAY THATS A BAD EXAMPLE BUT YAWLL KNOW WHAT I MEAN

SABE YOUR HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

THANKS

EARLK

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Re: WILLING TO LEARN
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2006, 08:27:41 AM »
also with regards to the DISCIPLINE POST this will help as well cos even if i have a roster the discipline is needed to stick to it...once again you the man SABE...
if i start it i should finish it to master my gift for the advance of the kingdom and glory back to GOD.....
so yeah i need an example of HOW LGM DRUMMERS achieve drumming goals through the week....

thanks guys

EARLK

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Re: WILLING TO LEARN
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2006, 07:11:22 PM »
Practise is all day for me. ;D

Everyday
8:30am-5:30pm - All day foot practise & coordination (When I'm at my desk that is)
I'll usually do 8ths with my left foot & 4ths with my right (Trying to build my left foot). Then I'll move to triplet variations with the right foot while maintaining the 8ths on my right. I'll just repeat that all day long at work lol... I do it without thinking sometimes & I've been caught out during meetings haha... I'm doing it right now!

Mon-Wed: 9.00pm start (or later for 1hour)
I do one thing only... rudiments. Lately I've been focussing on single stroke rolls & CONTROL. Just doing that 3 times a week.

Thursday night is family night so drumming is out for the evening. I spend time with my wife & son. Usually consists of board games or at-home-movies or rides to the city at night etc. Just some good quality family time.

Fri-Sun:
Friday night: Rehearsal starts at 6.30pm so that's my drumming for Friday (including the ALL DAY drumming)
Saturday: Church Service @ 11.00am. Band Rehearsal @ 2.00pm**. Youth Service @ 3.30pm.
Sunday: Other Church Band practice @ 7.00pm until whenever...

**This is a weekly band practice for a youth programme which is run once a month.

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Re: WILLING TO LEARN
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2006, 07:37:33 PM »
HI LGM FAMILY

I am trying to get my practise roster sorted so??? i need help on what a daily workout should look like
considering my 9-5 , and my practise room not being sound proof

what does YAW'LLS Roster look like

eg: monday - rudiments (2hrs)
     teusday - chill out
     wednesday- chill out
     thursday - chill out
     friday- chill out
     sat - chill out
     sunday- holy ghost inspired drumming WOW MAN I AM TIRED REPEAT CYCLE

LOL!!!!!!!!! OKAY THATS A BAD EXAMPLE BUT YAWLL KNOW WHAT I MEAN

SABE YOUR HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

THANKS

EARLK

Yo man rudiments for two hours is a waste of time! You need to view your practise time *** an buffet. You start with rudiments (half an hour)Then move on to licks around the kit (half an hour) and for an hour practise playing to different styled cd's and programmed music, this way you get time in playing with a band and you can practise your new licks in songs.
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Re: WILLING TO LEARN
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2006, 11:00:17 PM »
Like BBD said spread the love. Working your hands or feet has more to than just Rudiments... you have to deal with combos...  coordination around the kit... orchestration on/around the kit... ear training... styles/genre...  Control studies... 4-way Independence/Interdependence... Polyrhythms... yada, yada

This really helped me get mine together recently because I need to be about the business. fretai03 posted it from a New Zealand drum forum. It is pretty serious but you can us it as a guide.

Original Routine Post Starts Here


This is NOT my routine but it helped me get mine sorted. Hopefully it helps you get yours done too. Just change whatever you need to make relevant to you.

The original thread & author (Benji) can be found here: http://drums.2.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1349&st=45


Okay, here goes. Each individual practice session plan, followed by some information about all the areas in it, why I practise those things in that group, and any additional thoughts I feel should be mentioned.




This is definitely the 'super-session'. It's the longest, and most difficult. There is a good amount of work on my hand and foot technique at the beginning, but the main purpose is really pushing mental and physical limits. Even practising hand and foot technique is by no means easy, if you're really pushing yourself you should feel yourself working physically, but not enough to tire you so that you cannot continue the session at an efficient level. It's expanding your limits, not pushing past them and tiring yourself.

Because of the length of this session, I would doubt that I will be able to do this more than once a week down in Wellington, though I would like to. But because of the difficulty and intensity, once a week would be enough. A practice session like that is very tiring mentally, and I don't think I would be able to do that every day. You need to do different things to stay energised and mentally fresh - so this is the weekly super-session where I really go for it.

It should be noted that while what I would be doing is very technical, musicality remains a criteria that must be met.



The technique practice at the start of this session is little more than a warm-up and maintenance. From there, the emphasis of this session is more on music. The first practice session is mainly technical / complex, and while the skills practised can be applied in a musical setting, that is not the focus. Whereas this session, is working on playing those genres. Really getting into the mindset of what to play in each genre. How I feel when I play punk is not how I feel when I play jazz. How I feel when I play rock is not how I feel when I butcher Latin. This practice session is really focussing on genre-specific playing, and maintaining a high level of groove in each genre.

Appropriate grooves, appropriate fills - particular themes to bring into the playing in each genre. That's not to say I don't let loose, but when you do, it still has to retain the style of the genre you're practising within.



This session has some similarities to the first in the sense that it focuses on advanced playing, but it is more specific. It works on independence, interdependence and advanced coordination in particular. As I've said before, I'm really big on aiming for ambidexterity and 'perfect' coordination - this practice session is working towards that, really.

Workings out of the polyrhythm book are only two-line exercises, but this can be reversed, played on feet, reversed, split up between feet and hands - and you can do two sets at once, etc. You take it as far as you want. Just one example of how a straight two-limb melody can be used to work on both sides of the body, and cross over and the like.



This would be a pretty light practice session, comparatively - but that doesn't mean you can't have intense jazz, or take working out of books and DVDs to higher levels of intensity also. It wouldn't be anywhere near as mentally or physically draining as other sessions though, that's for sure. And that's partly its purpose.



I may be doing a jazz course, but that doesn't mean it has to feature in all my practice sessions - this is also set out like the above session - same warm-up and maintenance of technique at the start, and same overall length. But it's just on whatever book or DVD I want to work on. As I've said many times, you take things as far as you want to.

So, there are the five practice sessions. Now, some things to note:

This is not all the practice I would do. As doing a jazz course, there would be things I would need to go home and work on, or if the band I'm starting gets going, I would need to practise things for the songs played - what I'm saying is, there would be extra material I would need to go over.

But that doesn't interfere with planned practice. So I would surely do more practice than the above sessions - and as everything is equally important in its own right, it is equally important I get everything done. It is important to me that I stick to my practice sessions, because that will help me take my own drumming where I want to go. It is important I work on the material I need to for my course, because if I don't, I won't pass. It is important I work on things for my band, because that will be another important feature of my life.

Of course I would have unplanned practice sessions, and of course I would still jam. These are just the planned sessions, and I just wanted to make it clear this would not be all I did.

Another point - when I say I'm working out of books or DVDs, it doesn't necessarily mean going through the exercises verbatim. For example, when I was working out of the John Blackwell DVD the other night, I worked on the cross-stticking pattern he plays on the cymbals, while performing stick tricks - and it gave me an idea for my own one. So it spurred me to go off on a related tangent and practise that.

Working out of books and DVDs does not restrict me to only playing what is in the book or DVD - they're solid, topical resources, where with every exercise you practise from it, you can get more ideas for your own.

That's about it. I hope the above benefits people in some way.
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Re: WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2006, 11:56:55 PM »
Haha, Thanks for the rep Sabe (For the NZ drumming forum that is).

earlk - I do have one similar to that above but I'm at work & I can't be bothered posting my whole routine.

The ones shown is quite detailed so until you feel comfortable & determined enough to follow through with something like this, you'd probably want to make it your aim to get to a practice routine like this.

Don't give excuses about a 9-5 & supporting a fam & church responsibilities etc... Just make it do what it do!

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Re: WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2006, 12:25:57 AM »
I broke it down into smaller time segments to fit my schedule.

Will probly be breaking it into two sessions a day since I have gotten off track the past 3 weeks.

2 hrs in the morn and 2 hrs at night... shooting for 6 total hours before the end of the year but I have to get the rest of my daily life in order first.
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Re: WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2006, 09:54:23 PM »
the new breed???  ?/?

donatisms??? ?/? ?/? ?/?

wat are those because thats the practice routine that caught my eye
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Re: WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 12:05:08 PM »
the new breed???  ?/?

donatisms??? ?/? ?/? ?/?

wat are those because thats the practice routine that caught my eye

The New Breed and New Breed II are books by Gary Chester that all the heavies go through.

"Donatisms" are Virgil Donati Techniques.

Polyrhythms is a book by Pete Magadini. (outside of it being a musical term)
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Re: WILLING TO LEARN... (HELP WITH PRACTICE ROUTINES)
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 06:43:51 PM »
Man i admire you brothers sharing the the knowledge on practice time ,Jeremy Haynes gave some knowledge on pratice routing on gospelchops. GOD BLESS!
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