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Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« on: October 16, 2006, 07:00:09 PM »
Check out Gerald Heyward's vicfirth interview...it has some nice clips of him playin and he gives his history as a drummer...

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 07:00:37 PM »

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 07:39:59 PM »
Thats a really useful video. thanx for postin that up.

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2006, 08:11:00 AM »
very nice. Gerald is quite candid on this one. Loads to Learn
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2006, 09:05:53 AM »
thanks man its a blessing cuz most drummers today start in the church
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 09:42:35 AM »
wow that was great!!!!!!!!
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2006, 10:11:36 AM »
Nice... interview.

Gerald re-iterated a lot of the advice that has been given here on LGM. I hope you guys paid attention to his words more than his licks.

Note, that he said Steve Gadd hooked him.
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2006, 03:13:36 PM »
Nah! Hes a punk!!! How can he say he was the Steve Gadd of gospel drumming when Dana Davis and Kevin Brunson were out there inspiring younger gospel drummers LONG before Gerald came to fame! I was learning their licks long before Geralds!

Dana Davis back in the 80's and early 90's was what Calvin Rodgers is today, playing on everyone's records! The only reason he was able to go right from Church to the road was because Aaron Hall used to sing on Hezekiah Walker back in the day who became part of GUY who had Teddy Riley heading it up.

I think that if more Gospel Drummers back then were educated that we could be out there making money sooner there would be a lot more Geralds out there, but we were all taught that it was bad to go out in the world and use our talents to make a living,
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2006, 03:48:47 PM »
Nah! Hes a punk!!! How can he say he was the Steve Gadd of gospel drumming when Dana Davis and Kevin Brunson were out there inspiring younger gospel drummers LONG before Gerald came to fame! I was learning their licks long before Geralds!

Dana Davis back in the 80's and early 90's was what Calvin Rodgers is today, playing on everyone's records! The only reason he was able to go right from Church to the road was because Aaron Hall used to sing on Hezekiah Walker back in the day who became part of GUY who had Teddy Riley heading it up.

I think that if more Gospel Drummers back then were educated that we could be out there making money sooner there would be a lot more Geralds out there, but we were all taught that it was bad to go out in the world and use our talents to make a living,

I'm no longer a fan of Gerald's, but in a way, he may be right. Gerald Heyward, from what I can tell, sparked a revolution. Everybody was going nuts over Gerald, and I was too. I didn't know who Dana Davis or Kevin Brunson was, back then. So, he may not be entirely correct, BBD, but as you can tell by listening to today's drummers, Gerald Heyward's influence is immense...

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2006, 04:01:14 PM »
Nah! Hes a punk!!! How can he say he was the Steve Gadd of gospel drumming when Dana Davis and Kevin Brunson were out there inspiring younger gospel drummers LONG before Gerald came to fame! I was learning their licks long before Geralds!

 :o :o WOW I've got to add my 2 cents when I come back from Rehearsal.

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2006, 05:51:13 PM »
Nah! Hes a punk!!! How can he say he was the Steve Gadd of gospel drumming when Dana Davis and Kevin Brunson were out there inspiring younger gospel drummers LONG before Gerald came to fame! I was learning their licks long before Geralds!

Dana Davis back in the 80's and early 90's was what Calvin Rodgers is today, playing on everyone's records! The only reason he was able to go right from Church to the road was because Aaron Hall used to sing on Hezekiah Walker back in the day who became part of GUY who had Teddy Riley heading it up.

I think that if more Gospel Drummers back then were educated that we could be out there making money sooner there would be a lot more Geralds out there, but we were all taught that it was bad to go out in the world and use our talents to make a living,

Oh my!!!!!!!!  :o :o Let's set the record straight.  Yes, Kevin was playing with his father's group, the Tommies, but he did not make the band.  His playing was ho-hum (solid but not spectacular a la Howard Kennedy for Wilmington-Chester)  Richard (Gibbs), a young Steve Huff, Percy Bady, D. Brooks and the horn section made the band.  Likewise, Dana was traveling with the Winans' band but again he did not make the band, Steven Ford, Eddie Howard, Kern (sometimes a young cat named Fred Hammond), E. Wright made the band hot!!!!  Again, Dana was nothing special but very solid.  I liked Mike Williams better than Dana, but everyone has their opinion ;) ;)

First and foremost, Jeff Davis inspired Gerald's playing.  Both of these cats (Jeff and Gerald) raised the bar for all gospel cats back then and their style still influences cats today.  Even Dana and Kevin were influenced by them.  Dana and Kevin changed their whole style of playing after 1984 (when these cats were recorded).  In fact, after Jeff visited Detroit, certain persons stole his style lick-for-lick.  I'm not calling any names out--that's unimportant.  That's why Jeff changed his whole style of playing after he left the Midwest.  BTW,  I'm not telling you what I heard through hearsay, I'm telling you what I know. 

I remember seeing Gerald for the first time at UNAC-5 in Miami.  He was doing stuff that jazz cats had been doing a long time but had never been incorporated heavily in gospel music.  He opened my eyes (and everyone else that was there) to the possiblities of the drums for Gospel music.  He had moved outside the paradigm of "Gospel music" as we knew it.  I continued to follow his growing legend as he toured with his uncle's choir, Brooklyn's own Radio Institutional.  Then I happened to fall upon Jeff, who was more seasoned.  It was not until I spoke with Gerald did I realize the impact that Jeff had on his playing and the props he gave him. And it was not until I spoke with Jeff did I realize the breadth of his knowledge.  The next cat that blew my mind was when Lil' John came on the scene.  They was a certain battle between two titans......--but that's a story for another day!!!!   

Instead of denigrating him, let's give Gerald his props.  ?/? ?/? Even though most of us may have made the evolution past Gerald's style of playing his place in the annals of Gospel drumming is unquestioned.  That's not to say you won't be able to point out how your uncle Pookie was playing like that in your region, it's just that Gerald's impact was on a much wider scale.

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2006, 07:00:39 PM »
Great post!

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2006, 07:33:37 PM »
great post!

the more i see gerald the more i realise he always comes back in on the one with a crash cymbal but then adds another crash on the 'a' of the 1st beat...

i guess even the greats get into certain phases or habits!

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2006, 11:07:35 PM »
great post!

the more i see gerald the more i realise he always comes back in on the one with a crash cymbal but then adds another crash on the 'a' of the 1st beat...

i guess even the greats get into certain phases or habits!

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2006, 03:17:07 AM »
Lets get something right, Dana Davis played on way more then just the Winans joints! I had a whole collection of stuff, he was one of me fav. drummers...He was the Calvin Rodgers of the 80's

Gerald was not the only guy back then playing like that, Doobie Powell and a bunch more played like that BUT Gerald was recorded playing like that nationally first and toured with Hez. so everyone saw him and attributed the playing to him solely!

When Hez came to Toronto in 88 Gerald came with some light skin friend and the guy could do everything Gerals was, they would switch back and forth during sound check!

In 93 J Haynes came to Toronto with Try City and slapped anything that Gerald had done! He used to play like that but was way faster and more skilled.......His right foot was crazy!
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2006, 09:25:46 AM »
Put it like this, Gerald is the one who got super famous for playin like that.  Maybe it was meant for himto be the one.  I know bout doobie and all the ther ones snd they nice too.  It really dont matter WHO get the props cuz they all nice
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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2006, 12:57:25 PM »
Well...man....I think it's better  just to say that everybody learns from everybody and people in general end up choosing one person in particular to give the props to...in this case, gerald...even though he was heavily influenced by other drummers, he receives much of the attributes....i believe like it says in the bible, "there is nothing new under the sun"...i believe that all music traces back to some form of drumming, so what gerald, dennis chamber, dave weckl...u name it, is doing, it has already been done in some way, shape or form.

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Re: Gerald Heyward
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2006, 01:32:38 PM »
Okay Gerald was coming from LEFT field stating that he felt he was the STEVE GADD of Church Drummers, There has always been Drummers going from Church to the Clubs starting with the Jazz and Blues drummers way back, So the Transition from Church to Stage is Ancient history Bizzness,Now more than ever guys and doing both secular and Gospel  Studio and Live performances
Now what he said about having BIG EARS and the NBA and Streetballers comparison needed to be thought about, Furthermore as far as him being a major influence,I don't agree, a influence yes,a Major one No,What we get is the Trickle down Syndrome, Our Gospel
favorites study and Copy grooves and licks from Dennis Chambers,Steve Gadd,Weckl,Vinnie  etc.....etc.....and place them in a Gospel content and we cop it from them,And usually once its has been put into a Gospel content it becomes MORE FIERCE in its application.Jus' my Opinion.Like it or Not."There is Nothing New Under the SUN"

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Re: Gerald Heyward video interview!!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2006, 04:37:14 PM »
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Re: Gerald Heyward
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2006, 05:01:27 AM »
Okay Gerald was coming from LEFT field stating that he felt he was the STEVE GADD of Church Drummers, There has always been Drummers going from Church to the Clubs starting with the Jazz and Blues drummers way back, So the Transition from Church to Stage is Ancient history Bizzness,Now more than ever guys and doing both secular and Gospel  Studio and Live performances
Now what he said about having BIG EARS and the NBA and Streetballers comparison needed to be thought about, Furthermore as far as him being a major influence,I don't agree, a influence yes,a Major one No,What we get is the Trickle down Syndrome, Our Gospel
favorites study and Copy grooves and licks from Dennis Chambers,Steve Gadd,Weckl,Vinnie  etc.....etc.....and place them in a Gospel content and we cop it from them,And usually once its has been put into a Gospel content it becomes MORE FIERCE in its application.Jus' my Opinion.Like it or Not."There is Nothing New Under the SUN"

Agreed fully! I was kind of ticked of at the interview...Why is he self proclaiming hes the Steve Gadd of Gospel drumming! Steve single handedly started a new revolution in drumming across the world that everybody had to have him! Gerald didnt! It was the working of people like Dana Davis, Jeff Davis, Kevin Brunson and Gerald who raised the bar and raised Gospel drumming to where it is! As for the sound in R&B Stokly was killing it on Mint Condition long before Gerald was big in the R&B world and listen to the stuff he was doing its not Geraldesk at all! Gerald was a big influence but he was no Steve Gadd and I was offended he said that! (He just sounded more pro then most of us at the time and we saw how to use the kick and toms to sound like we have a machine gun foot!) He disrespected so many other gospel drumming greats by his statement!!! But that was classic Gerald! Also again if you ever had the chance to see J. Haynes back in the early 90's he was killin Gerald in every way!
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