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Offline btrue15

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TODAY WAS THE LAST SUNDAY THAT I STRUGGLE!!!!!
« on: July 11, 2004, 03:17:17 PM »
Today my pastor got up and sang My Soul Loves Jesus for about 5 minutes and then he sang Shine On Me(2 songs that I absolutely cannot play) and then after singing both of these song, he went back into My Sould Loves Jesus 8O   All I could do was say Lord help me to play this song Lord help me please :cry: I need chords please, or maybe some theory or better yet a midi.  So basically he sang for about 15 minutes and for the whole time that he sang I did not play a single note.  Lord help me to see the light



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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2004, 03:45:19 PM »
Dear  Btrue


    Ask God for the help  for playing  I Know ask  for Grace.


   God Bless

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 06:15:08 PM »
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I did not play a single note.


I guess that's where I'm different from some people. I'll still try, although I'll play it low, until I get it. I've learned not to freeze up when someone sings a song that I don't know.

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2004, 07:47:05 PM »
To play or not to play if you dont know a song...there is no right or wrong, its probably better to not play. its all good.

performance in church is depentant upon practice at home :roll:

I need LOTS of practice myself.

God bless

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2004, 10:35:30 PM »
We've all been there.  Don't  fret.  There are certain traditional songs that need to be known by all musicians- you know like Amazing Grace, Precious Lord and so on. The good thing about many traditional songs is that if you learn one you also basically have another.  Those two songs that you named are good places to start.  Try learning them in C, F, G A-flat to start with.  No musician can play every song-everytime.  Even the best struggle with something.  Picking up behind someone isn't always easy,  it doesn't mean that you are an incompetent or lazy musician, it means that you are on the journey as a church musician and there are many lessons yet to learn.  Matter of fact I've been in services where the musician's use of all the phat jazz chords and stuff was a distraction away from the message and simple beauty of the music.  Keep playing cause God is pleased with your service.  Peace

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2004, 11:06:50 PM »
Be Encouraged. Ever pick out a song in one key and then it seems like a person sings it in another key that you have never heard? We all been there. Please don't give up trying.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2004, 11:53:09 PM »
:) Thanks for the words of encouragement!!!  For whatever reason, I have never been able to pick up on these two songs.  I just couldn't believe that for the few years that I've been playin for my church,  that I've been faking it on these two songs.  I really don't understand what my problem is obviously I don't practice enough.  There are a lot of songs out there that I just haven't heard before, it drives me crazy when someone breaks out with a song that is twice as old as I am.  Any advice???

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2004, 01:04:46 AM »
Ha!  :lol:  :lol: That cracked me up . . . . "Someone breaks out with a song that is twice as old as I am!" Boy, that has me ROLLING!  :lol:  :lol:

Anyway, as musicians, we know that exposure is the key to playing different things. Do you have access to any old tapes of similar songs, or do you know anyone who knows these old songs that can sing them while you figure out a few progressions while they sing?

Saint of God, if you can pick up on just about any song except these few, you are BLESSED BLESSED sho 'nuff BLESSED.  :lol: But it seems to me that an exposeure to these songs will fix the problem.

Be Blessed and Encouraged . . . I'm sure your church family appreciates all you do for the Kingdom.  :wink:
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2004, 01:38:58 AM »
BBoy, I wish u could have seen the smile on face when i read the first two lines of your post.  Once again thanks alot for the encouraging words, I think they hit the nail on the head.  I'm gonna keep tryin to move forward.  

I do agree, exposure is one of my problems.  I don't get out to other churches to hear musicians often.  But here recently I've been tryin to branch out and get some much needed exposure.  

So anyway tomorrow morning I'm gonna head out to the church and try to get one of these songs.  I might do some prayin while I'm there.  If I run into any trouble, I'll comeback and holla at yall

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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2004, 08:56:57 AM »
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To play or not to play if you dont know a song...there is no right or wrong, its probably better to not play. its all good.

performance in church is depentant upon practice at home :roll:

I need LOTS of practice myself.

God bless


nah, i agree with the above post...........its better to try.....just sittin there doesn't help anything, its better to atleast attempt to play the song

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2004, 08:04:29 AM »
I think to try (at a very soft volume) is OK.  If you're not getting by the first time through, DON'T keep plunking and throw the singer off.  I find that to be annoying and rude.  I think, "I wish they would stop because it's messing with the spirit."

Your scenario has happened to me, though I've been playing a long, long time.  BUT, I haven't always played in church and don't know many songs.  Instead, I sit there and devote my attention to the singer, praising the Lord and encouraging the vocalist with an Amen, a hand clap or a wave.  I'm not going to sit there looking like a deer caught in head lights just because I don't know the song.  And worse, sitting there looking remorseful or stupid.  I'm not going to let my frustration show to the people.  God knows my heart.  Now, people that may criticize, "Dang, she can't play that" are the ones that can't even play Mary Had A Little Lamb.  I have a very high regard for singers because I was raised by a great singer.  At any cost, I don't disrupt the singer.  

Then, when that's all over, I go home and look the song up or try to find a recording of it, or find it in a hymnal.  

Did you learn these songs yet?  I always say if you know a few of them, you can play most of them.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 08:09:08 AM »
Further, don't be too hard on yourself because I found when I first started playing in church that these types of "ad-lib" songs were the most difficult to pick up. The vocals can go in any direction because there's really no tempo or beat to latch on to.  These "meter" styles are harder and require a lot of arpeggios and fillers (speaking from the piano point of view--not the organ).  You really have to feel and listen for the chord changes more with this type of singing (and in some instances, MOANING)  :D  8)

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 12:40:26 PM »
This is the truly a post I can relate too.  I'm sure most musicians have been in the same situation and you really hit home.  I have really enjoyed reading the original post and the encouraging responses' that have come from everyone whom has posted.  You all are a blessing!

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 02:52:21 PM »
I am going to ease your anxiety.  Your post had me laughing. This is the last time I struggle. Cas10a if you play for another service, you will struggle again. I have news for you. You have not yet begun to fight. I have been playing for 48 years.  Two lifetimes. Two generations. I know traditional and contemporary songs. I was raised in aCOGIC church with my mother who plays the piano and organ., and my father's church which was Missionary Baptist.  He sang in the choir.  From the earliest age I can remember, until I started playing for churches at 12 in1962. I  have played for Baptists,Methodists, Presbyterians and Roman Catholics. Honey some services I struggle. You don't know what your pastor is going to sing.  He doesn't know what he's going to sing. How are you supposed to know what he's going to do? I have never heard him sing. He may not be singing the right melody. I would need to hear him sing My Soul Loves Jesus, and/or Shine On Me. No one can follow someone who is not singing the right melody. They are singing their song, their way. Don't even attempt to play for someone like that. Since I have been playing a long time and for a lot of different song programming. I can quickly listen and diagnose and prescribe a remedy to accompany a voice. If he is singing correctly you will need to accompany him. Bring a small tape recorder to your service.  When he starts to sing, record it. Is he singing the song(s) the same way everytime? If he is you will need to know traditional song chord progression. Music is a language. It is a non verbal communication. Just as a sentence is a group of words that expresses a complete thought.  A song is a group of pitches, harmonies and rhythms that express a complete thought. There are rules that are specific to english syntax and structure. Certain words come in the sentence before or after other words. I cannot explain all of this in a posting, however this is the basic concept. Find your pastors key center. Play a chord that sounds right. Use your intuition. You know when it sounds right, so do others who can't play an instrument. Lay on that chord sound. Eventually he will move to another key center. Find that one. Traditional songs only have three key centers. There is a solution to yours if your pastor sings his melody right. If he doesn't sing the melody right. You have my sympathy, because you are going to do a lot of STRUGGLING.  ha ha have fun keep practicing. You will be blessed.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 05:07:44 PM »
Hey, it's the KEYNOTE!  She's BACK!

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2004, 02:37:47 PM »
You guys are truly a blessing, through your encouraging words I've seen the light.  Unfortunately, I haven't picked up the songs yet, but trust me I'm workin on them.  But I think that I have realized my problem.  My pastor cannot sing, lol.  So I really don't know the real melody.  So I guess i need to get someone else to sing it, since he's the only one who will sing these two songs in our church.  So my big question to him is where is the melody???lol I've got some work to do on this one.  but I will definitely have a different attitude while in service this sunday, yall pray for me

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2004, 06:56:48 PM »
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Dang, she can't play that" are the ones that can't even play Mary Had A Little Lamb


HEY! I just learned Mary Had a Little Lamb for my daughter's preschool class!  :D


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I have been playing for 48 years....playing for churches at 12 in1962


Sheesh!  :)  You were playing back when the only gospel song was "Oh Happy Day" LOL....wait...that was before Oh Happy Day!  :?  :wink:

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2004, 07:59:39 PM »
Ha! He said "The problem is that the pastor can't sing!" You all are way too much . . . y'all just me rolling up in here  :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2004, 11:35:33 PM »
So can anyone help me, what is the melody for this song, My Soul Loves Jesus??

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2004, 12:13:25 AM »
I found an old post of "My Soul Loves Jesus" by Hammondman
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IN Db

FP / LH / RH - WORDS

Ab / AbEb / GbBbDbF - MY
Ab / AbGb / ACF
Db / DbAb / FAbDb - SOUL LOVES
F / DbB / FBbBEb - JESUS, MY
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Gb / GbDb / FAbBbDb - SOUL
G / GDb / EGBbDb - LOVES
Ab / AbEb / FAbDb - JESUS
Gb / EBb / EbAbC
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A / EbA / EbGbAC - MY
Bb / BbF / AbBbDbF - SOUL
C / CA / CEbGbA - LOVES
Db / DbBb / DbFAbBb - JESUS
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E / ED / DbGbBb - BLESS HIS
Eb / EbDb / AFC - NAME
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A / EbA / EbGbAC - MY
Ab / AbGb / BEbGbBb - SOUL LOVES
Db / DbBb / FBbBEb - JESUS MY
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Gb / GbDb / FAbBbDb - SOUL LOVES
Eb / EbBb / ADbEbAb - JESUS MY
Ab / AbEb / FAbDb - SOUL LOVES
Eb / EbBb / GbBbDbF - JESUS
Ab / AbEb / AbBbCF - BLESS HIS
Db / DbAb / FAbDb - NAME
You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart!
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