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I am a keyboard player but I am having a few issues with my baselines....so how do you translate bass guitar tabs to the keyboard??I know this is a dooooosey but hey I want to know.  The best keyboard players are skilled not only in chords but they are also skilled in being able to play great walking basslines as well.....Please help a sista out!!! ;D ;D
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2007, 08:17:30 PM »
I play keys, but I'm not sure how you would benefit from a bass tab.  If the tab had notes, that's the only way to benefit from it.
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2007, 09:19:02 PM »
Tabs work best if you understand the notes on the neck of a bass...there are lots of places to go to get that information...and if you are listening to the song while you are transcribing the tabs.  Just my two cents.

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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2007, 09:49:33 PM »
Hey chevonee, I play bass as well as keyboard.  What helped me play better basslines on the keyboard is by listening to the bass lines that bass players play on CDs.  Anything a bass player can do, a keyboard player can do it better, except for sliding and slapping.

My suggestion is to study the bass lines in songs and try to play them.  It's gonna be a challenge cuz u also gotta play chords, but I'm sure you will find a way to play both that works for you.
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2007, 10:44:51 PM »
Anything a bass player can do, a keyboard player can do it better

what's that all about?
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2007, 06:49:08 AM »
I play keys as well but I've never (and will never) used tab of any kind!  Also a keyboardist cannot play bass like a bassist, IMO!
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2007, 08:40:47 AM »
Playing bass on keys cant even get near to playing a real bass!!!   Hahaha!!! Neva in a million trillion years!
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2007, 11:09:20 AM »
Well, I have played bass longer than keyboard, now play mostly keyboard. Also a bit of autoharp and tremelo harmonica. Used to play clarinet and sax. I learned to read music when in high school band - and I don't usually play anything by tab. Used to work on church (electronic) organs, play a bit of organ.

Tab is a simplified system designed for guitar and bass, particularly for those who cannot read regular music. In tab, the notes (or chords) are shown as little stick drawings of fingers on the fretboard. So - the first thing you need to do if you read music or play by ear and want to use tab is to get a tab chart, figure out what chords that each tab symbol means (unless the chart you are reading also has the chords)

Once you know the chords, you just make a progression like you would normally make it.

A difference - some progressions that are EASY on a bass are not easy on a keyboard (same way - some that are EASY on a keyboard are difficult on a bass) - that's just because the two instruments are made different.

What it will mean is that, if you have both bass and keyboard in the band - ONE of you needs to lay out on the bass, because you are very unlikely to use the same progressions.

Our praise band has one very good keyboardist (not me), she has learned to comp and chord mostly above middle C, some notes below, but NO strong bass line, except when she is working solo.  I play a Kurzweil synth and a computerized Hammond organ/Leslie emulator.  So, a lot of the time on the faster music, I'm filling in the bass part, usually either with a bass sound or using low bass from a concert grand piano sound. Sometimes, we do a song that just calls out for a real bass, and I bring either my RD Artist or my Les Paul 5-string, and switch to bass for the song. I also comp occasional chords with the Hammond.

On the slower stuff, I usually do strings, pads, flutes, other orchestral instruments.  Another thing - the more people in the group, the less each one needs to play. There is more of a beauty in music that has a bit of silence occasionally than when everyone is trying to shred at the same time!  In instrumentals, most of the lead is from the keyboard or our guitarist.

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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2007, 03:49:13 PM »
what's that all about?

Playing bass on keys cant even get near to playing a real bass!!!   Hahaha!!! Neva in a million trillion years!

As far as the true sound of a bass, you're correct.  But, keyboard player's hands can move so much more faster than a bass player.  So, that means keyboardists can duplicate every note a bass player plays, plus play the same thing in the RH at the same time.  That's my opinion. ;)
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2007, 04:50:25 PM »
As far as the true sound of a bass, you're correct.  But, keyboard player's hands can move so much more faster than a bass player.  So, that means keyboardists can duplicate every note a bass player plays, plus play the same thing in the RH at the same time.  That's my opinion. ;)
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »
In addition, in my 30+ years of playing I have not encountered or heard any keyboardist who could  (with a sampler keyboard) play a slap & pop bassline with their left hand and comp with their right hand. That's not to say they don't exist and if they did, it'd be a rare entity, IMO.
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2007, 09:05:27 PM »
I beg to differ! http://youtube.com/watch?v=m9t-1JPbw5E


That doesn't prove a thing.  I am not talking about playing techniques, I'm talking about the notes being played period.  A keyboard can play any note(s) a bass player can, plus more because of the 2 hands.  I stand by my opinion 100%, even if the whole world thinks against me. ;)
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2007, 09:37:25 PM »
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But, keyboard player's hands can move so much more faster than a bass player.

I posted that as a result of your above posted words. I hear what you're saying though. A keyboardist can play the notes but, I say a keyboardist can not play like a bassist with the sensibility and nuances of a real bassist!
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2007, 09:38:23 PM »
I posted that as a result of your above posted words. I hear what you're saying though. A keyboardist can play the notes but, I say a keyboardist can not play like a bassist with the sensibility and nuances of a real bassist!

Agreed.
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2007, 09:46:34 PM »
I think your orignal argument was keyboardist can play anything a bass player can and better. You are comparing two totally different instruments. Keyboards have bass voices as well as a entire host of other instruments. When it comes to bass guitar it is not possible to separate the notes from the technique or instrument. Considering there are only twelve notes the only thing that creates music is the instrument and technique. I will admit keyboards have come a long way from the days of the old casio electric piano electric bass split. But I have yet to hear any keyboard replicate any instrument to the point at which it was better than the original instrument. BUT in reference to the orignal question my advice would be find a key player without a bassist that has been playing a while they are usually good at filling the bass section
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Re: Any bass guitar players who also know how to play the keyboard????
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »
Correct , you can't do the same on a keyboard as you do on a Bass .
the phyisics are totally different  and your left hand on the keyboard would have to have super natural attributes to succeed. That meaning this would have to be a qualified anointing from the Holy Ghost and you would not be playing. LOL
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