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Offline normandm85

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2008, 04:03:11 PM »
Yeah I do too, it's just a coincidence that a lot of gospel songs are in those keys. But like you said it's no excuse. In my practice time I just practice the white keys anyways and in the dark lol   ?/? :D ;) :)
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 04:30:09 PM »
Yeah I do too, it's just a coincidence that a lot of gospel songs are in those keys. But like you said it's no excuse. In my practice time I just practice the white keys anyways and in the dark lol    ?/? :D ;) :)

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2008, 05:59:26 PM »



The 2 hardest key to play in which I am practicing in. is B natural and F#/Gb

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2008, 10:18:53 PM »
Yes their are lots of songs created in Ab and Db. But wait also C,D,E,F,G,A,B. You just have to be able to play in every key. Most churches opens up in the key of G, Ab, or B.

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 11:43:19 PM »
I open in the key the person is talking in. :)

And there you have it!

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2008, 10:39:42 AM »
Abracadabra!!!! "Key-Wiz" The Magic Of Music

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2008, 11:52:06 PM »
when u play in the black keys your foot can stay to the lower part of the foot pedals and Ab and Db are the most comfortable for the foot. When i play in the white use the swell sometimes because the notes on the foot pedal is to high and is sometimes uncomfortable to hit especially on a fast song. Another reason I maybe in E major and I want to hit a low B the 5 of E but the lowest pedal note is C. During devotion you can use the normal bass run on the foot pedals in Ab also
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2008, 11:59:00 PM »
when u play in the black keys your foot can stay to the lower part of the foot pedals and Ab and Db are the most comfortable for the foot. When i play in the white use the swell sometimes because the notes on the foot pedal is to high and is sometimes uncomfortable to hit especially on a fast song. Another reason I maybe in E major and I want to hit a low B the 5 of E but the lowest pedal note is C. During devotion you can use the normal bass run on the foot pedals in Ab also
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2008, 04:12:34 PM »
I'm guilty of starting in Eb, and Ab sometimes B these are the keys my praise team loves to sing in comfortably
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2008, 10:11:18 PM »
I'm not going to lie. I use to do it myself. I use to start of in C#, but then I thought about it that I need to stop and start getting fimilar and comfortable with other key and that what I did. ;D

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2008, 12:39:17 AM »
Guilty as well. I sometimes warm up in Eb and many of you guys are right, it is for convenience...I mean ive warmed up in Ab before and the singer for praise and worship was in C....Thats why we must practice in the keys that are the least comfortable so that we get used to warming up in C, G, A, etc...

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2008, 01:19:16 AM »
I've made it a habit now to start in the key of the person that's talking. If no one is talking then I'll start in D, E, or A. It may sound weird, but G is a hard key for me now. It didn't used to be.

I need to work on that one some more.

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2008, 10:34:00 AM »
E major.........or F# minor..............for no reason lol
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2008, 11:16:05 AM »
First of all, let me say I'm guilty as well...

Don't you know that Ab or Db to organists is what C and Eb are to keyboardists?

My theory is this: the keys of Ab and Db has more black keys than any other keys, which makes it easier to accomplish the "heel-toe" method... I mean who likes to play shout music/congregational music in on the organ in A? Not to mention, doing runs on the organ (using the major scale for the most part, and I guess the blues scale as well) are much easier to do in those keys... I mean why do you think Tye Tribbett picked those keys for "I still got Joy?"

As for my keyboard analogy: Alot of Keyboardists love C and Eb because of the same reason: the pentatonic (blues scale without the b5) in Eb is all black keys(and in C, let's just face it, the pentatonic easy to play), major scale riffs are much easier to accomplish, and last of all it's easier to TRANSPOSE lol!!! Everyone knows that -4 is Ab and +3 is Eb(when you're playing in C)!!!

And also, alot of keyboardists(who don't play organ), don't know how EASY it is to play in Ab on the organ... and how DIFFICULT it can be to play in C on the organ.

But you know the weird part

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2008, 11:19:28 AM »
First of all, let me say I'm guilty as well...

Don't you know that Ab or Db to organists is what C and Eb are to keyboardists?

My theory is this: the keys of Ab and Db has more black keys than any other keys, which makes it easier to accomplish the "heel-toe" method... I mean who likes to play shout music/congregational music in on the organ in C? Not to mention, doing runs on the organ (using the major scale for the most part, and I guess the blues scale as well) are much easier to do in those keys... I mean why do you think Tye Tribbett picked those keys for "I still got Joy?"

As for my keyboard analogy: Alot of Keyboardists love C and Eb because of the same reason: the pentatonic (blues scale without the b5) in Eb is all black keys(and in C, let's just face it, the pentatonic easy to play), major scale riffs are much easier to accomplish, and last of all it's easier to TRANSPOSE lol!!! Everyone knows that -4 is Ab and +3 is Eb(when you're playing in C)!!!

And also, alot of keyboardists(who don't play organ), don't know how EASY it is to play in Ab on the organ... and how DIFFICULT it can be to play in C on the organ.

But you know the weird part


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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2008, 11:20:23 AM »
Sorry for the double post.

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2008, 01:15:35 PM »
First of all, let me say I'm guilty as well...

Don't you know that Ab or Db to organists is what C and Eb are to keyboardists?

My theory is this: the keys of Ab and Db has more black keys than any other keys, which makes it easier to accomplish the "heel-toe" method... I mean who likes to play shout music/congregational music in on the organ in A? Not to mention, doing runs on the organ (using the major scale for the most part, and I guess the blues scale as well) are much easier to do in those keys... I mean why do you think Tye Tribbett picked those keys for "I still got Joy?"

As for my keyboard analogy: Alot of Keyboardists love C and Eb because of the same reason: the pentatonic (blues scale without the b5) in Eb is all black keys(and in C, let's just face it, the pentatonic easy to play), major scale riffs are much easier to accomplish, and last of all it's easier to TRANSPOSE lol!!! Everyone knows that -4 is Ab and +3 is Eb(when you're playing in C)!!!

And also, alot of keyboardists(who don't play organ), don't know how EASY it is to play in Ab on the organ... and how DIFFICULT it can be to play in C on the organ.

But you know the weird part



interesting. I kinda agre but I think it all depends on what you practice. I know cats who Are good in keys like C, D, A,G etc, but dont play as well in other keys. Why? Because they practice in those keys. I believe that if we were to play more in those keys, we would be better in them.

But I also think those keys are often considered easier, because it is easier to do slurs and runs because of the fingering, and like you said, playing the pedals is a lot easier in those black keys.

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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2008, 02:20:57 PM »
I am guilty as well...I can "get by in most keys but when I warm up, I usually start in one of my stronger keys (my weaker ones being D,E and A)... But many times when someone starts a song off, they just start off wherever so it is good to know how to play in every key just in case.
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Re: STOP OPENING UP IN Ab and C#
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2008, 08:37:41 PM »
Personally I think it doesn't matter what key you start to play in! I've heard cats play the most basic stuff 'warming up' and then just literally BLAZE the organ on a 'song' so it doesn't really matter. I like to challenge myself so if I'm somewhere where I don't play all the time I'll take the volume down and then catch the singers where they are...think about it, if they can't sing you gon have to catch 'em anyway! If they know their stuff you're gonna have to move to where they are also... Try warming up in B or F# those are keys people start singin in without any music-be prepared for that one! lol

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