Is God your Master? If so that makes you His [b]SLAVE[/b]

[iamworship]

YES YOU ARE GODS SLAVE......


Ok so this may just be for me but I will share what God has burden me with. I was writing a song and on eof the Lines God gave was." I call you Master, because I owe you". I was like wow God i do owe you. God said yeah and I am your master. SO I have been on this journey the last 3 weeks trying to understand the Master/Slave dynamic.

As the worship leader for my church , God has had me studying the er of Slavery in an attempt to get me to understand what my demeanor and posture should be toward my master, being tht I am His slave. my question is do you see God as your Master? if so do you act according to that of a slave when it comes to wroshipping Him. Some things God has placed in my belly..

1. Slaves don't have personal agendas. In slavery times it was never about what you wanted thought or felt. The slave master did not care how you felt today, whether you were sick or felt like working the fields or whatever. You got up regardless and worked rain or shine, summer winter spring and fall. God said to me" It's not about you Jarrell. It's about what I want. And I want worship sun up to sun down, in season and out of season"

2. In regard to my mentality- the slave was less than a man. you had no identity except that which the slave master gave you. thus all of our surnames. No name , no identity, no pwer, no language, thus most slaves felt like nothing. God said to me"jarrell if I was really your master, you would feel like nothing, you would not be caught up in yourself at any moment". I'm learnignto recognize that in the presence of my master, I become nothing I'm powerless I'm whoever He wants me to be.

3. In my study often times slaves who got too big or strong would have to be killed or sold because they could be seen as a distraction to the motives of the slave master.  Even though a particular slave would work hard and be his best worker, the slave master knew psycologically(spelling) that he would have to make an "example" out of him/ her to keep everyone else in checkl and also maintain the mental hold on the slaves. Thus public beating and often killings to make sure the slaves did not forget who they were and just in case they got any ideas. ...... Hmm this GOT ME. God said as gifted as I have made you, do not get so puffed up and high minded, He said often times there are thigns and people that He has to Kill of(remove) because, if he does not, it will disrupt the corporate vision. God said I dont want to have to make an example out of you in orde to re-enstill in the people that I am God all by myself and beside me there is no other.  

I could go on I continue to get revelation every day!!!! Your thoughts

Also I do understand that we do not have a hard task master. yet he is a jealous God just the same.....

[Dre2004]

First, I must say thank God for giving you such a strong Revelation such as this. This really made me think and in you letting God use you it is going to help so many People such as myself!!


God Bless you!! I know you said thoughts but this is what came up out of my spirit.

[daughterofchrist]

Your topic is interesting....here's my point of view....

Yes God is indeed my Master and yes I am his servant but God doesn't want it to stay that way....why?   Let's go to the WORD......

In John 15:14,15says that 14-You are MY friends if you do whatever I command you.
 
15-No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing;  but I called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you.

The Lord wants us to know whatever HE knows.  If you read and apply his word and HIS commandments to our lives he says that he wants us to be his friends.  Now I don't know about anyone else but I want the Lord to be my BEST friend.  Yes we are here to serve and to glorify God...that's what Jesus did......just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many-Matthew20:28

Be Blessed
DaughterofChrist

[iamworship]

This is  revelation to be taken in the context of attitude and posture as it pertains to Worship. I'm tryin gto understand who God want and how he wants to be worshipped and praise and reveranced.

Also  we  can not take just a portion of the word to make a case. Not that you Are doing that but. Friend or not, which he does call me friend, God is The Almighty, The King Of Kings. We are to bow down before Him and blss His name. His name is above all names and how can I consider myself worhty of anything. this is my posture this is my mind-set so when he says worship, I bow I submit, when He says  "well done" I still have the mindset that " Lord I can do better" " God thank you but I still dont feel worthy of what you have given me or allowed me to do" , " God  I know you called me but why me", " I dont desere to be in front of You let alone these people".. This is the mindset of someone who worship their master.

I dont contendt that God can see me as worthy and call me friend. what I have hard time doing is believeing I deserve any of it thus the higher he takes me the lower I feel. I am a wrethc undone a filthy rag. Even on my best day I have in some way fallen short. I can never praise Him enough.  " What shall I render unto God for all His blessing". He paid a price I could never repay I hold him in such high regard that when he calls me " friend" I say " Oh God no not me you have angels, I'm just carnal sinful flesh".. This is the attitude i walk in or try to as much as possible and Iam learning how to be more Humble everyday. My sister Ihope I didnot offend you or anyone else if I have please forgive me....

this position of mine my not be for everyone but it is what keeps my befoe the face of God and my sins ever befoer Him..

[Annointed-n-Appointed]

Hey iamworship,

Can you plesae give me scripture references to back up what you are saying.  Thanks so much.  I love you!!!

[Jniles_NCF]

i think as far as God being your amster and us being slaves is true but like someone else said it doesn't stop there.

think about this God showed me this the other day and please just hear me out . the bible say that Saul was suppose to kill all the amalekites but he didn't then God spoke through Samuel and sai " obedience is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams" paraphrased. what does that mean, In the old testemnet sacrifices were how the people worshiped, and God clearly states that he wanted obedience. even Jesus said that if we hold our tounges that the rocks would cry out. again what does this mean? it means that God can get praises from a rock.. an inaanimate object. i'm going somewhere with this so stay with me. God DOES NOT NEED OUR PRAISE AND WORSHIP... what do you mean JNIELS_NCF? i mean that the song of the redeemded is special andthat it's a song that the angels can't sing, and we have free will and i have come to belive that this makes our worship more meaningful than that of angels. becasue there are angels that worship all day, but God would leave that to hear humans praise Him, why? becuase we don't have to, but becuase we understand that we did not deserve to wke up this morning and that we are but dust without the breath of God, that makes our worship real, it makes it what it is.

now some food for thought. Why did man fall? not becuase of the fruit, but becuase of disobedience. why didn't moses see the promise land? because he struck the rock when Gopd told him to speak to it. now this  might get your brain going... do you think Moses would have lead the children of Isreal out of egypt and into the wilderness to hear from God if God would have told him at the burnnign bush that He was not going to allow Mosses to enter into the promise land?

i can go all day with this so post if you want me to further explain. be blessed and let he that have ear hear ...

[iamworship]

Annointed

for starters---- Matt 6: 19-24

At the end it says no man can serve two masters. Either God is your master or the enemy or your money or your pride. Bt you (we) all have a master.  

I have many more...

[Annointed-n-Appointed]

I apologize.  I didn't explain myself.  I need a scripture reference for the part about us being slaves.  I need to see where scripture has said that we are slaves of God. I appreciate it so much.  Thanks.

[ladybass]

Praise Jesus,

Here's my take on the topic:  Yes, God is my Master, but it doesn't make me a slave (in my opinion) but a servant.  I understand that one of the meanings of servant is slave, but it also means sevants, worshippers slave also means servant (worshippers of God).  I believe the later definition pertains to the born again believer.  To be enslaved is burdensome, bondage & oppression and, in Exodus, God brought his people out of the house of bondage.  Then it's said in Mat 11:30, "For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."  Being a servant or having a servant kinda mentality supports being humble in the Lord.  Then there's those who the Lord considers his friend, as pointed out earlier.  Well, let's not stop there...God wants us to be his son.  It appears here that there's some growth going on as we grow or change from glory to glory (2Cr 3:18), yet the Godly characteristics of the novice levels shouldn't or can't be neglected to maintain the the advanced.  


Jhn 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

Jhn 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.  

Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  

1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

I'd like to also point out that although everyone isn't at the same level of growth the Lord can reach us where we are.

Jesus Blessings!!

[iamworship]

LET ME SAY AGAIN......

IM SIMPLY SHARING WHAT GOD GAVE ME WHICH MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY.

Oh and not yellign at all....

When God said to me I am the Master the word slave got my attention. I believe tha God gave me this specific word to drill into me the seriousness of His desire that I serve Him. Not as a slave but that my service be that deeply seeded and embeded into my conciousness. It more of a metaphor or simili . The bible used these all the time. Not in the literal but figuratively speaking and to empress upon me my need to serve him with my mind body and soul. To allow Him and to let me now what he commanded of me. I was created to worship it is my soul. This revelation is God giving me a graphic impression of how he wants ME to serve Him. he wants it everyday, from sun up to sun down, regardless of how I feel. Every waking moment he controls he wants me to yield myself to Him. He is in control.....

For those that this helped wonderful and I hope that God gives you your own revelationin addition to this and according to your gifting and design.

[ladybass]

Be encouraged iamworship

LET ME SAY AGAIN......

IM SIMPLY SHARING WHAT GOD GAVE ME WHICH MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY.

... you did ask for our thoughts.  I don't think anyone is out to attack your experience or you personally.  We can definitely learn from each other and it was good that you shared with us.  Thanks!

Jesus Blessings!!

[iamworship]

I am glad to see the replies. im also happy that people are provoked to consider their own relationship with God.

this is the primary purpose in the initial posting.

I am thankful for this place where we can just discuss god and who He is in each of us.


humbly in His service,

iamworship

[SisterT]

 I need a scripture reference for the part about us being slaves.  I need to see where scripture has said that we are slaves of God. I appreciate it so much.  Thanks.

Anointed-n-Appointed, we think a lot alike....I need scripture references.

Iamworship, that was a good post. One thing I try to encourage people, when God gives you a Word, He will have a scripture for you with that Word. You may have to look it up, but it will be there in His Word. One should always give scripture reference when sharing a Word from the Lord. That's where CONFIRMATION takes place, and CONFUSION is buried, thusly leading to CONVICTION.

In James 1:1, he starts out by saying, James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ. Now if you look up the meaning of that word "servant", it gives the idea of being a bondservant or slave. So, in fact, James is saying he is a slave for God.

Slave is such an "ugly" word for us, but let's look at it metaphorically. Allow me to give three points:

1. A slave is PURCHASED by the Master.  I have been bought by the blood of Jesus. I am no longer a slave to sin, but a slave (servant), of Christ.

2. A slave's PURPOSE is to serve the Master. Becasue I am sold out to the Master, I am His servant.

3. The Master PROVIDES for the slave. When you sign up in the kingdom of God, you put yourself on "child support". You are a child of the King and he provides for you.

In conclusion, a slave doesn't own anything or have anything. Everything belongs to his Master.  Our Christian walk is hinders by the fact that we think too highly of ourselves. We think being called a slave is degrading. I, like James, don't mind being called a slave or servant of Jesus. He paid the price for me. I don't belong to me, I belong to Him. He is my Master, I am His.

Unlike human slave masters (or "masSers"), Jesus is a Master, as someone pointed out, who is also my friend (the Word declares it). There are no secrets, he doesn't mistreats us, he doesn't use us....He LOVES us....The proof was CALVARY.

Hope this help someone.

[BBoy]

To add on a bit, the Bible often uses the word "bondservant"  or "bondslave" in the New Testament.

A bondslave ot bondservant is an interesting institution, and a little bit different than what we think of as Americans when we think of a slave. A slave was controlled against his will and had no inheritance, he was just property. A bondslave or bondservant, in Bible culture, was someone who was bought by his master, but who chose to serve his master becasue his master was so good to him. Life with the master was better than life out on your own!

If a person wanted to be a bondslave, he would go to the master and say "I chose, of my own free will, to be a part of your house forever." Then the master would take the bondservant or bondslave to the doorpost of the house and bore a small hole in his ear. The bondslave or bondservant then would wear that earring as a badge of honor, becasue it meant that he was a part of the household. The bondslave had an inheritance, because he had chosen to serve his Master forever.

As Christians, we can relate to all of this. Life with Our Master and Father and Lord and Friend (because He Is All of these) Jesus is better than a life out on the world in so-called "freedom."  :roll: It's life with Jesus that is freedom, not life apart from Him. And we also have an inheritance because we are part of His Family as well as His servant. We belong to His House.

Just something to think about . . .

Be Blessed!  :lol:

[ladybass]

One thing with being a human slave and master.... the master forces his will on the slave .... the slave has no choice in the matter of what they do, eat or drink ... those that were enslaved in Africa couldn't say, "i don't want to go with you or submit to your will, i'm staying here."  They were forced.

Jesus being our Master is different.  Master in this wise is one that teaches and one that is Lord.  This Master gave us a free will, yet his desire is for us to submit to His will.  We have a choice, it's not forced on us.  If we submit to his will then we are heirs of his Kingdom and are entitled to benefits.

Jesus Blessings!!

[ladybass]

To add on a bit, the Bible often uses the word "bondservant"  or "bondslave" in the New Testament.

actually, when it mentioned bondmaid or bondwoman in Gal 4 it was referring to the OT in regards Abraham's household.

Gal 4:31 — So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

A bondslave ot bondservant is an interesting institution, and a little bit different than what we think of as Americans when we think of a slave. A slave was controlled against his will and had no inheritance, he was just property. A bondslave or bondservant, in Bible culture, was someone who was bought by his master, but who chose to serve his master becasue his master was so good to him. Life with the master was better than life out on your own!

Although I wouldn't use the term bondslave, what you have here is similar to what I was saying

Jesus blessing!!

[iamworship]

Im glad to see the addition to this post..

For me I simply make sure that my statement has foundationinthe word. I try to stay away from Bible, bible, bible. Just because i witness in the streets and to my peers who tend to get defensive when they hear that. So I give them what the words says but in pratical contemporary language. I use examples that they can immediatly relate to .. Having said that, I will try to switch back to the actual word or scriptures. I also believe that God does give us common sense and room to interpret and use the word fundamentals of the word in a contemporary applicable way.

Bboy - good word also....I can use that as I continue to develope what God haw given me. I appreciate it.....