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Offline musicbishop

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Need ADVICE
« on: January 20, 2009, 09:40:11 AM »
I've been trying to play the guitar seriously since my mid teens (I'm now 23). My progress is kinda slow though, I guess you can say I'm getting better but I'm probably not as good as I could be. My problem is My father in-law is a heck of a guitar player (In the top three on the church seen) therefore he would be th choice to learn from, but he knows everything by ear and he moves fast. He knows no theory (that I know of). What do I do and remember we're in a financial drought. ?/?
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 10:17:21 AM »
What specificaly are you trying to improve?  What other guitarists do you listen to?
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 10:22:16 AM »
What specificaly are you trying to improve?  What other guitarists do you listen to?

Great question. What ARE you trying to learn?

BTW this works for me due to my personality type and my not be true for you and others, but when i come across someone who cannot explain why they are doing what they are doing, i don't waste my time asking them to teach me. No matter how good the person is, i just end up being frustrated.

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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 10:24:14 AM »
What specificaly are you trying to improve?  What other guitarists do you listen to?



I really want understand why certain chords go where they're placed and also progressions. i listen to alot of people george benson, johnatan dubose, joey woolfolk, norman brown, lee ritenour, just a little bit of everybody
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 12:27:35 PM »



I really want understand why certain chords go where they're placed and also progressions. i listen to alot of people george benson, johnatan dubose, joey woolfolk, norman brown, lee ritenour, just a little bit of everybody

Well chords are classified as major or minor depending on the relationship between the root and the next highest note.  If the next highest note is a major 3rd (two whole-steps) above the root, the chord is major.  Conversely, if the next highest note is a minor 3rd (1 1/2 stpes) above the root, it is a minor chord.  The location of major and minor chords within the context of the major scale are the natural result of where the notes fall and the resulting spaces or steps between them.  For example, in the key of C major, E is a major third above the root so this prodcues a major chord.  If we move to D, the next note, F is a minor third above and therefore produces a minor chord.  So for all major scales, regardless of key, the chords derived from the major scale are as follow:

I - Major (Tonic)
II - Minor (Supertonic)
III - Minor (Mediant)
IV - Major (Subdominant)
V - Major (Dominant)
VI - Minor (Submediant - this also the relative minor scale to the tonic)
VII - Minor b5 or Half-Diminshed (Leading tone)

In additon the basic major and minor chords, you can also incorporate the 7th and other extentions.  Of course, for real fun, don't forget altered and outside chords.  More on that later.

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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 12:37:17 PM »
We really should have a basic tutorial on scales and chords as a sticky here.
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 12:39:27 PM »
We really should have a basic tutorial on scales and chords as a sticky here.

Put it together and we shall sticky it. ;)
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 12:42:21 PM »
We really should have a basic tutorial on scales and chords as a sticky here.
Amen brother,you are so right.

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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 03:15:51 PM »
Put it together and we shall sticky it. ;)

Heck why not. I will put something together on scales, modes and basic chords by the end of the week.
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Re: Need ADVICE
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 11:29:34 AM »
I've been trying to play the guitar seriously since my mid teens (I'm now 23). My progress is kinda slow though, I guess you can say I'm getting better but I'm probably not as good as I could be. My problem is My father in-law is a heck of a guitar player (In the top three on the church seen) therefore he would be th choice to learn from, but he knows everything by ear and he moves fast. He knows no theory (that I know of). What do I do and remember we're in a financial drought. ?/?

Im taking guitar lessons now and if you are at the beginner level, this is the best place to start IMO.
On the other hand, the internet has a vast amount of resources starting with this forum. Honestly, it sounds to me that you may be lacking basic theory. I have music knowledge but I lack the ability to perform it on the guitar. I watch various artist on you-tube and I am able to recognize and interpret the music. However, I am unable to apply it and duplicate what I just heard because I lack basic fundamentals. ( This will change in the future ;))  If you ever watch the pianoman videos, he invites guest to come and play various songs. Normally, he looks at what they are playing and describes it to the viewing audience. This description includes the name of the chord and why it is being played. This is done from observation only and with little assistance from the person that is actually playing the song.   
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