History will be made

[Fenix]

Wow. Gone are the days when you'd have to wait a whole day to get a response in the guitar room.

 

[sjonathan02]

And what I'm saying is that just because that's "just the way it is" does not mean that it's they way it should be nor is it necessarily true.
In my mind it's akin to the hyper-spiritual folks who stub their toe and blame satan for it.

Nah, no way, bruh. That's apples and oranges.


The POTUS being the face of the nation is no different than a pastor (even the most Jesus-focused pastor) being the face of his church.

[gtrdave]

Nah, no way, bruh. That's apples and oranges.

Not really. It's a matter of proper perception. If we judge the condition of the body based on the head, we may miss what is right or wrong with the body.

The POTUS being the face of the nation is no different than a pastor (even the most Jesus-focused pastor) being the face of his church.

Understood, but what the face of that head pastor reveals may not jive with the condition of his church.
I've seen some healthy churches with a sick head pastor (New Life in Colorado Springs was one) and other sick churches with an awesome head pastor (my friend's church in Wilmington comes to mind).
You could even look at Jesus, the perfect leader, King and Pastor, yet His church is full of division, disagreements and some downright despicable people. None of those problems are Jesus' fault, though. Still, look at how many people look at the sickness in the body of Christ (Catholic priests molesting kids, pastors having affairs, pastors stealing money, congregational splits and more) and then make efforts to replace Christ as the head.

Again, just because that's "just the way it is" does not mean that's it's the way it should be nor does it mean that it's right.

[duster]

Wow. Gone are the days when you'd have to wait a whole day to get a response in the guitar room.

 

I was just about to say the same thing...haha

[gtrdave]

I was just about to say the same thing...haha

I know. I really need to chill, let some things go and get my seminary homework finished. I wanna gradgeeate in May!!!

[sjonathan02]

Understood, but what the face of that head pastor reveals may not jive with the condition of his church.
I've seen some healthy churches with a sick head pastor (New Life in Colorado Springs was one) and other sick churches with an awesome head pastor (my friend's church in Wilmington comes to mind).
You could even look at Jesus, the perfect leader, King and Pastor, yet His church is full of division, disagreements and some downright despicable people. None of those problems are Jesus' fault, though. Still, look at how many people look at the sickness in the body of Christ (Catholic priests molesting kids, pastors having affairs, pastors stealing money, congregational splits and more) and then make efforts to replace Christ as the head.

Again, just because that's "just the way it is" does not mean that's it's the way it should be nor does it mean that it's right.

I can get with this.

[kodacolor]

Not really. It's a matter of proper perception. If we judge the condition of the body based on the head, we may miss what is right or wrong with the body.

Understood, but what the face of that head pastor reveals may not jive with the condition of his church.
I've seen some healthy churches with a sick head pastor (New Life in Colorado Springs was one) and other sick churches with an awesome head pastor (my friend's church in Wilmington comes to mind).
You could even look at Jesus, the perfect leader, King and Pastor, yet His church is full of division, disagreements and some downright despicable people. None of those problems are Jesus' fault, though. Still, look at how many people look at the sickness in the body of Christ (Catholic priests molesting kids, pastors having affairs, pastors stealing money, congregational splits and more) and then make efforts to replace Christ as the head.

Again, just because that's "just the way it is" does not mean that's it's the way it should be nor does it mean that it's right.

+1

[gtrdave]

And all this nonsense aside, I pray that President Obama does a slammin' job. 

[reindale]

Here is my opinion. I'm all for celebration, but at the end of the day, each and every adult is responsible for themselves. I said to my wife, "Yes we have new president, but you are still going to work at that job you don't like that doesn't pay you enough. Now, are you going to fix that or is President Obama going to fix it. If you think Obama is going to do something about it then you will be waiting a long time." Those were my exact words. This means that people still need drive and ambition to improve their own lives. Obama can't save the world. He may pass some legislation that may benefit a few folks, but those families on welfare are still welfare today and probably will be for a long time.

[bigjez]

Not really. It's a matter of proper perception. If we judge the condition of the body based on the head, we may miss what is right or wrong with the body.

Understood, but what the face of that head pastor reveals may not jive with the condition of his church.
I've seen some healthy churches with a sick head pastor (New Life in Colorado Springs was one) and other sick churches with an awesome head pastor (my friend's church in Wilmington comes to mind).
You could even look at Jesus, the perfect leader, King and Pastor, yet His church is full of division, disagreements and some downright despicable people. None of those problems are Jesus' fault, though. Still, look at how many people look at the sickness in the body of Christ (Catholic priests molesting kids, pastors having affairs, pastors stealing money, congregational splits and more) and then make efforts to replace Christ as the head.

Again, just because that's "just the way it is" does not mean that's it's the way it should be nor does it mean that it's right.

I have been gone from here for a while but this was good dont blame no one I say pray and watch for JESUS return if you watch the world and what it is doing it is going in the direction to the end time I know ,know one wants to talk about it.Let talk about  IRAQ ,did you know that  that is Babylon and if you study on that you know it has to be restored for the end time  for GOD purpose. During the time in Iraq  did you know that there were resurchers digging up a babylon king called Gilamesh
Tablet 1
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Gilgamesh is praised as a ruler of great knowledge, two-thirds god and one-third man. He is presented as the strongest king and human ever to have lived, we still hear that he oppresses his people harshly.
Some what of a fallen angle or a nephilim the world know what it is doing  but GODs people dont How can you have time to did up graves when people are being beheaded just some food for thought.

This also why I say(Isay)the church should not get into politics
1 samuel 8:4-22 and so on read it and tell nme what you think.

We need a sticy topic area were we could hve these talks.