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The Black Man and the television
« on: March 11, 2009, 06:36:40 AM »
So, my friend and I were listening to Cybil Wilkes (from The Tom Joyner Morning Show) and heard about D.L. Hugley and David Allen Grier being out of a job (with CNN and Comedy Central, respectively).

Cybil went on to say that a writer from the Baltimore Sun wrote about how this was a big deal. Yada, yada, yada, it got us to thinking, 'How many Black men ARE there on television, now?' 


We came up with 15 that we either watch or about which we know.  :o :(

Hill Harper (CSI: NY)

Shemar Moore (Criminal Minds)

Alimi Ballard (Numb3rs)

Allan Louis (Privileged)

Tristan Wilds (90210)

James Pickens, Jr. (Grey's Anatomy)

Taye Diggs (Private Practice)

Mario Van Peeples (Damages)

Clarke Peters (Damages)

The Men of 'House of Payne (6 brothas with at least 20 episodes)

So, I ask, LGM family,

a. Is there a cause for concern?

b. Can you think of any brothas we have missed to add to this list?
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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 08:35:33 AM »
I don't think there is a cause for concern. From what I read on Blackvoices D.L.'s program wasn't good at all. If you don't have a good product or viewers, what is expected?

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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 08:41:14 AM »
I don't think there is a cause for concern. From what I read on Blackvoices D.L.'s program wasn't good at all. If you don't have a good product or viewers, what is expected?

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That's SVU... The new Law and Order has old dude from Barber Shop, can't remember his name.

I think most shows have at least one token black man.  House has that dude (sorry, I'm bad about actor names)

My name is Earl has that Snoop lookin' guy

The Office even has a token black man, actually a couple.

Dude on ER just got killed last year, lol.

That's all I can think of right now, but like I said, it seems PC to have one token black person and one token gay person... idk how I feel about it, but it's becoming more and more true.

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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 08:55:36 AM »
I don't think there is a cause for concern. From what I read on Blackvoices D.L.'s program wasn't good at all. If you don't have a good product or viewers, what is expected?

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You're right about the soaps.  They all have a token black couple, who are only allowed to fall in love with each other, LOL!  I guess their scared to tackle the interracial thing.

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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 08:58:35 AM »
The only reason I'd say there might be cause for concern is that there's no basis for a similar thread entitled "The White Man and the television."  White men are all over television and black men are not.  :-\

My input:
1. I watch a lot of news.  One of the first things I noticed and loved about moving to Atlanta is that about half to a majority of the news reporters and anchors are black.  CNN also has a few black men reporting and anchoring.

2. Is Omar Epps still on House?  If so, you missed him.

3. You also may have missed any black men on daytime television.  I don't keep up with soaps, but last I heard, Angie and Jesse were back on AMC.

4. The court shows have Joe Brown and Greg Mathis.

5. And as someone else pointed out, DL's show wasn't so great.  I was pulling for him to succeed, but I knew from the first promo I saw that it wasn't going to last long.  He was way out of his element, and he's not really that funny to begin with.  :-\  But for what it's worth, both he and CNN reported that his show wasn't cancelled for the ratings.  Both sides said that he asked to relocate to LA to be closer to his family, so they are continuing the working relationship with him, but he can't do the show from LA.  (Of course we know that if the show rocked, he wouldn't want to go back to LA, nor would CNN let him).
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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 09:03:31 AM »
You're right about the soaps.  They all have a token black couple, who are only allowed to fall in love with each other, LOL!  I guess their scared to tackle the interracial thing.

Am I the only one that feels more "ok" with a Black guy and White lady, versus a White guy and Black lady?

It's always a shock to me.

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 09:12:41 AM »
The only reason I'd say there might be cause for concern is that there's no basis for a similar thread entitled "The White Man and the television."  White men are all over television and black men are not.  :-\

My input:
1. I watch a lot of news.  One of the first things I noticed and loved about moving to Atlanta is that about half to a majority of the news reporters and anchors are black.  



Maybe its because more than half the people in ATL are black. Thats a very high percentage compared to other major cities.

Am I the only one that feels more "ok" with a Black guy and White lady, versus a White guy and Black lady?

It's always a shock to me.


Care to elaborate? possibly in a new topic. I think that would be an interesting discussion.


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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 09:16:38 AM »
Am I the only one that feels more "ok" with a Black guy and White lady, versus a White guy and Black lady?

It's always a shock to me.

I wonder if it's because the black guy/white lady seems to be more common.  I won't say I'm more "ok" with it, but the other arrangement does usually make me look twice, or think twice or something... lol.

Over the weekend, I was out to breakfast and saw a very affluent-looking interracial family.  He was white, she was black.  I declare if she didn't have those two babies with her, I'd have sworn she was the nanny.  He looked like a CEO-type.  Looked like he used $100 bills to wipe his mouth after dinner.  I mean, you could smell money on him when he walked by.  She appeared to be African.  She was beautiful in a motherly sort of way, and he was far from attractive, IMO, but he was well-dressed.  She was well-dressed too, but her hair left a little to be desired.  Her ring had to be at least $25k, if not more.

Anyway, it was really odd-looking to me.  And a friend pointed out that if she was white and he was black, I wouldn't have looked twice.  And of course, she was right.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 09:20:24 AM »
The only reason
5. And as someone else pointed out, DL's show wasn't so great.  I was pulling for him to succeed, but I knew from the first promo I saw that it wasn't going to last long.  He was way out of his element, and he's not really that funny to begin with.  :-\  But for what it's worth, both he and CNN reported that his show wasn't cancelled for the ratings.  Both sides said that he asked to relocate to LA to be closer to his family, so they are continuing the working relationship with him, but he can't do the show from LA.  (Of course we know that if the show rocked, he wouldn't want to go back to LA, nor would CNN let him).


Yep D.L's show was no good at all. (Sorry D.L). I watched it twice and was not sure what to think. Is it a talk show (a la Jay Leno) or what? Plus Mme Rue is right, the fellow was very much out of his element. The show brought nothing new now was it even funny.  :-\

...David Allen Grier being out of a job (with CNN and Comedy Central, respectively).


Now this i am a bit surprised about. The show was a bit too over the top for me but i still found it funny. Any reason why it was canceled?



CNN also has a few black men reporting and anchoring.


Like that Tony Harris guy who i cannot STAND!! Why does he over-exaggerate his words by using all sorts of funny inflections? I can't stand to listen to him for long. 

I think T.J Holmes and that other guy, Don (or Dan?) Lennon are much better.
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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 09:20:43 AM »
I DID forget about Omar Epps (and I LOVE 'House').


I forgot about Anthony Anderson on Law & Order.

I thought Ice-T was about to leave or be fired from L/O which is why I didn't add him to the list.


I also eliminated soaps from the equation, though I don't really have a good reason as to why we did.  :-\ :D


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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 09:21:45 AM »
Am I the only one that feels more "ok" with a Black guy and White lady, versus a White guy and Black lady?

It's always a shock to me.
I can't for the life of me think of why you would have a problem with that, lol.  Many black men for the longest have been telling us that we're too this, and too that, and that's why they prefer white girls.  I say what's good for the goose... LOL

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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 09:23:21 AM »


...oh and has anybody mentioned how hard it is to quote you? I mean, i like the font and all, but any time i have to quote a portion of your mostly voluminous posts, i have to be careful to not cross out the "Bradley Hand", "Bold", and 13 size font.  ;D
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 09:24:22 AM »


I thought Ice-T was about to leave or be fired from L/O which is why I didn't add him to the list.





Really?  And after he cut his hair and everything?

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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 09:26:23 AM »
Maybe its because more than half the people in ATL are black. Thats a very high percentage compared to other major cities.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why. It was such a welcome surprise, having come from NY where we may have had maybe 1 black anchor and 1 or 2 black reporters... of course, NY is ahead with its lack of low-budget commercials.  I went into shock the first time I saw one of those.  :D :D :D
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 09:27:33 AM »
I can't for the life of me think of why you would have a problem with that, lol.  Many black men for the longest have been telling us that we're too this, and too that, and that's why they prefer white girls.  I say what's good for the goose... LOL
Now that I think about it, though.  They say the whole black guy/white girl thing comes from back in the day when the massa used to get with the slave girls and as a result it is the black man's way of getting revenge.  If that's the case that initial sting may still exist.

As to Rue's comment about the affluent interracial couple.  I find that very often when a black girl is with a white man, her hair has... er... uh... "issues", as does the children's hair many times.  Why is that, I wonder?

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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2009, 09:28:38 AM »
Really?  And after he cut his hair and everything?

There was/is something in the story line that has Fen asking for a transfer after something Stabler did to him or his son, if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2009, 09:30:00 AM »
There was/is something in the story line that has Fen asking for a transfer after something Stabler did to him or his son, if I remember correctly.
Well, it was good while it lasted.  If tradition holds, they'll replace him with another black guy or girl. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2009, 09:31:06 AM »
...oh and has anybody mentioned how hard it is to quote you? I mean, i like the font and all, but any time i have to quote a portion of your mostly voluminous posts, i have to be careful to not cross out the "Bradley Hand", "Bold", and 13 size font.  ;D

THEN DON'T QUOTE ME!!!!!  >:( >:( ::) ::) >:(

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2009, 09:31:31 AM »
How and why did we get on interracial relationships? Are there some on TV (aside from Epps' character on 'House')?  ?/? ::)
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Re: The Black Man and the television
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2009, 09:32:13 AM »
Well, it was good while it lasted.  If tradition holds, they'll replace him with another black guy or girl. 

True, true.
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