LearnGospelMusic.com Community

Please login or register.
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question  (Read 2575 times)

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« on: August 31, 2009, 09:50:02 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/v/l-sHDghuYa4&hl=en&fs=1

learned this song for a group but they also want me to play that run at 4:22. the people im playing with (who dont know my skill level) think i can play this. i think its way outta my league. anybody wanna tackle it?
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.

Offline Kelz-Da-Basshead

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 400
  • Gender: Male

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 10:25:23 PM »
That run is Nersty. You better get 6stringapprentice to do a breakdown cuz faking it could sound terrible. Or do a simplified version.
you got to hear numbers

Offline BigFoot_BigThumb

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8841
  • Gender: Male
  • The Waves SSL 4000 plug-ins. The greatest EVER!!!

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 11:14:59 PM »
Tell them you will play it only if they get you a Ken Smith so that it will sound authentic.  That will take care of that.
When you've done your very best, do even better.

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 12:40:05 AM »
Tell them you will play it only if they get you a Ken Smith so that it will sound authentic.  That will take care of that.

that'll never happen. i hate Ken Smiths (i like Ken Smith strings though. lol)
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.

Offline 6stringapprentice

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 714
  • Gender: Male
    • facebook

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 02:44:03 AM »
OH MY :o
I usually would try to get a little cleaner than this but considering the time of morning it's pretty close ;D
Sounding Mathematics.

Offline blacklw234

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 246
  • Gender: Male

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 03:57:59 AM »
that'll never happen. i hate Ken Smiths (i like Ken Smith strings though. lol)

See now floaded u done opened up another a can of worms. Now why would you do this?  lol...lol.. Now how you gonna not like Ken Smith my friend in Christ. Actually I am being sarcastic. Not really a fan of the KS bass either. The Fender Jazz Deluxe will breakem off just as well as a Ken Smith at a fraction of the cost.
I play a LTD ESP C-305 Bass

Offline webster808

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 187
  • Gender: Male
  • Purdue University

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 04:14:48 AM »
that'll never happen. i hate Ken Smiths (i like Ken Smith strings though. lol)

I agree..Ken Smiths are overhyped...I think MTD's are better.

Offline malthumb

  • Moderator
  • LGM Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4646
  • Gender: Male
  • Praise Is What I Do
    • Your Car Does What?!?!?

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 05:34:25 AM »
I would take that as an opportunity to add my own flavor to the song.  (long winded way of saying FAKE IT) ;) :D
FAITH unites people
RELIGION divides FAITH

Offline DWBass

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2028
  • Gender: Male
  • Make A Joyful Noise!

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 06:50:06 AM »
I would take that as an opportunity to add my own flavor to the song.  (long winded way of saying FAKE IT) ;) :D
Agreed! Do your own run there. Or find a 'slow downer' and transcribe it and tackle it but me personally, I'd do my own thing there.
"Never Leave Home Without Your Groove On" :)

Offline ddwilkins

  • LGM Royalty
  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2199
  • Gender: Male
  • My Arsenal!!!!
    • D'Wayne's Spot

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 07:50:18 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/v/l-sHDghuYa4&hl=en&fs=1

learned this song for a group but they also want me to play that run at 4:22. the people im playing with (who dont know my skill level) think i can play this. i think its way outta my league. anybody wanna tackle it?



If I'm not mistaken, basspicker26 played this recording. Give him a holla of the break down. You never know, he may give up how its played.
Keep God first and he'll do the rest!!!

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 09:28:06 AM »
Agreed! Do your own run there. Or find a 'slow downer' and transcribe it and tackle it but me personally, I'd do my own thing there.

If I'm not mistaken, basspicker26 played this recording. Give him a holla of the break down. You never know, he may give up how its played.

to be honest, its less so in transcribing the notes, but more in actually playing it. even if i had the guy himself show me how to do it, i still think i'd only be able to play a portion of it, probably chopped up. my fingering isnt that good for fast runs like that.
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 09:32:23 AM »
OH MY :o
I usually would try to get a little cleaner than this but considering the time of morning it's pretty close ;D

that was really close, and light years beyond what i could have attempted to play. i'll use that as a guide and try to fit in as much of it as i can. btw, how long did it take u to get that?
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.

Offline dhagler

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1491
  • Gender: Male

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 10:25:36 AM »
floaded, I think you should play it the best you can but just be yourself. Whatever that guy did at 4:22 was inspired by his vision: be inspired by yours.

Offline Quebass86

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1283
  • Gender: Male

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 10:52:36 AM »
I agree with the others, have your own inspiration and flavor. It is nice to be able to duplicate someone else's licks but I remember Victor Wooten saying that he got inspired by others who took his style and/or licks and put something different to them and then showed him what they did and now there are more than one way to skin a "lick"  ;D
May God's Grace & Mercy smile upon you!

Offline BigFoot_BigThumb

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8841
  • Gender: Male
  • The Waves SSL 4000 plug-ins. The greatest EVER!!!

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 02:42:08 PM »
See now floaded u done opened up another a can of worms. Now why would you do this?  lol...lol.. Now how you gonna not like Ken Smith my friend in Christ. Actually I am being sarcastic. Not really a fan of the KS bass either. The Fender Jazz Deluxe will breakem off just as well as a Ken Smith at a fraction of the cost.

I almost bought a Ken Smith Designs jazz bass.  I tried one out at the music store when I was shopping and after I put it down I spotted the Yamaha TRB and tried it out.  A week later, she came home with me.
When you've done your very best, do even better.

Offline malthumb

  • Moderator
  • LGM Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4646
  • Gender: Male
  • Praise Is What I Do
    • Your Car Does What?!?!?

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2009, 04:01:49 PM »
I almost bought a Ken Smith Designs jazz bass.  I tried one out at the music store when I was shopping and after I put it down I spotted the Yamaha TRB and tried it out.  A week later, she came home with me.


I'mpretty sure you know this, but just in case.........

Ken Smith Basses Ken Smith Design basses

FAITH unites people
RELIGION divides FAITH

Offline BigFoot_BigThumb

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8841
  • Gender: Male
  • The Waves SSL 4000 plug-ins. The greatest EVER!!!

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2009, 04:08:42 PM »
I'mpretty sure you know this, but just in case.........

Ken Smith Bassess   Ken Smith Design basses




Most definitely.  The KSD is purely a licensing thing.  It was nice, but not nice enough.  If I get a Ken Smith, it will be the big dog.
When you've done your very best, do even better.

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2009, 04:33:40 PM »
I'mpretty sure you know this, but just in case.........

Ken Smith Bassess   Ken Smith Design basses




hmmm. so its sorta like comparing apples and oranges? lol!!!!
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.

Offline jonesl78

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 889
    • http://

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2009, 07:44:38 AM »
That was a nice run!!! I think you should strive to learn that run as it is played for learning purposes. In the long run you want to be able to add your own flavor simply because you can and not because you can't play the original recording.

Offline floaded27

  • LGM Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1821
  • Gender: Male
    • MySpace Profile

Re: to run or not to run (or just fake it)...that is the question
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2009, 09:41:48 AM »
issue with the rehearsal: now i know my natural style doesnt fit with the keyboardist and drummer (who play together on a regular basis) so i try to listen to see where i fit in. so they complain that the bass is lacking. so when i go at it, theres complaints about what im doing. um, you either want me to play the way i play or fit in with you, you CANNOT have both.

so one song im playing dead notes (i slip them in occasionally) but the keyboardist didnt want me doing that. seeing that he started as a bass player, he should be able to say what im doing that he doesnt want me to do, but he cant. so pretty much his attempt at an explanation comes off as "your playing is sloppy" and "you dont know what you're doing" (not exact words, but its like he pretty much couldve just said that) and of course i took offense. who wouldnt?

so he starts getting upset, because im telling him, what he's telling me to do im doing that. He's telling me i could lead into notes (as if im some beginner) which is what i was doing, so he gets mad because im telling him theres no difference in what you're doing than what im doing except timing. Then he says im doing a whole bunch of extra stuff when all i was doing was one or 2 passing notes (which is exactly what he did on the keyboard) with the occasional dead note.

so how does "dont play any dead notes for this song" (which were very few by the way) = "you need to clean up your playing"? that is soooooooo not the same.

and i know ive grown in the Lord because i shut up. cause i soooo wanted to say "stop transposing so we can play the song in the same key every time we play it" but i didnt say that. (we had a 5 minute debate about him being in the wrong key and we went to the record to prove i was right).

With this and other things, i've decided that after this concert on the 19th, im done with them.
For my God... let "Golden Axe" prevail.
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up