I understand where you are coming from. Maybe the other guys did not read into what you are saying about respect. I am a drummer as well as a keyboard player and MD for a church. Churches usually treat the organist better than other musicians. As far as respect, they do treat other players like they do not count at times. Maybe it is just a Baltimore thing. In Baltimore, we have huge churches that treat the organist like gold, and all the other players like they are not important. Like I said, I am a keyboard player also, so I have seen both sides of the fence. Some organist make a living as full time players. Drummers....well, very few get respect when it comes to kicking out money. I look out for the drummer that I hire. I make sure they get either the same pay that I get, or at least 75% of what I get paid. Sometimes, dependeing on the situation, I will pay my bass player and drummer and not get paid at all because the gig could be more about exposure for me. I am actually a touring drummer, so I do not need the churches money. However, I notice that they do not treat other players the same. I bet they will miss the drummer and bass player if they are no longer there!!!!! I know. :?