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Offline mrpocket02

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« on: December 27, 2004, 11:58:10 PM »
ok ive heard enough ..all you guys talk about the same 5 cats. thats why you cats play and sound the same and dont get any  real gigs and  the majority cant even read music. yes i said it !!!! if you are a real drummer you know  what  im saying ....let it go yo !!! step up your game ,im not saying these guys cant play...let me put it like this let me get on the drums  you will get a blessing   im  all around the world  playing drums   yall dont know what your missing  god besses every door i walk thru. all those cats i know   personally. they know im telling the truth     its all about the paper and the gig..... ask drummers  about jerard   from n.j  i play all styles  .. the left handed cat, they know me.  or maybe not ...... jeff lo knows me .  all these cat are cool dudes  and great drummers  but theres room for new ones  ..             dont get it twisted!!!! im not a hater im just getting the work you dont want....!!!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2004, 03:07:32 AM »
MrPocket you came real.  I like that.  I been playin drums seriously for 2 1/2 years.  I know what you talking about.  I need some more practice pointers and everything.  How do you develop your left hand faster?  How do you get your foot to dominate one pedal.  Don't get me wrong I'm good, but I can always be better.  And just listening to you I know you been around and you getting around.  So please hook me up.  Lata man.

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2004, 09:31:04 AM »
Dass Funni mann Cuase u sed xaCtly wat i was thinkin bout jus da otha day...wea u from?
chris "Daddy" DAve ROCKS!!!
jesus ROX HARDER!!

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Offline DrummerBoyGil

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2004, 01:04:40 PM »
I think I am the only drummer alive that HATES a double pedal. I can roll on a single though =D

Offline CalKel2

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2004, 01:45:58 PM »
I'm curious to know why do you hate a double bass pedal?

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Re: enough is enough drummers!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2004, 05:50:55 PM »
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ok ive heard enough ..all you guys talk about the same 5 cats. thats why you cats play and sound the same and dont get any  real gigs and  the majority cant even read music. yes i said it !!!! if you are a real drummer you know  what  im saying ....let it go yo !!! step up your game ,im not saying these guys cant play...let me put it like this let me get on the drums  you will get a blessing   im  all around the world  playing drums   yall dont know what your missing  god besses every door i walk thru. all those cats i know   personally. they know im telling the truth     its all about the paper and the gig..... ask drummers  about jerard   from n.j  i play all styles  .. the left handed cat, they know me.  or maybe not ...... jeff lo knows me .  all these cat are cool dudes  and great drummers  but theres room for new ones  ..             dont get it twisted!!!! im not a hater im just getting the work you dont want....!!!!!!


 
Yo man I feel you!!! I have been thinking the same way lately but couldnt think of a way you put it. Other people beat around the bush but you real and I like that. You need to start speaking up more often. Aiight Man Holla!!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2004, 06:12:15 PM »
:D hey dude thanx 4 mackin it plain. thats what im talkin bout you said everything i feel. well except i do like my dog chris coleman. thanx 4 keepn it real! later

Offline DrummerBoyGil

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 06:22:02 PM »
Quote from: CalKel2
I'm curious to know why do you hate a double bass pedal?


Cause, I can't roll on it, lol. I tried to when I was backin' up the pastor and it sounded like crap. So, I decided to keep my left foot on the high hat pedal, for now anyways =p

Offline CalKel2

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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2004, 08:31:08 PM »
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Cause, I can't roll on it, lol. I tried to when I was backin' up the pastor and it sounded like crap. So, I decided to keep my left foot on the high hat pedal, for now anyways =p


Well at least you tried it before you knocked it. It takes a lot of practice to learn how to use both for your feet in combinations like that.

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2004, 12:18:46 AM »
Man, of all the things i heard on this site, that sounded like some real jealousy........So i guess if people on this site started putting your name in with the category of jeff davis and them, u wouldnt have responded like u did. And another thing, I guess we can all see what u come to church for is to get paid and do unneccessary rolls...........Is it really all about the paper, mr. pocket?

Offline aNdThEBeAtGoEsOn

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2004, 04:51:40 PM »
CHRISTDAVEJR
I AGREE ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY OR HOW GOOD YOU ARE ITS ALL ABOUT WHO YOU'RE PLAYING FOR. IF YOU HAVE THE PRIVELAGE TO PLAY FOR THE LORD...THEN PLAYING FOR THE LORD...WELL...THATS ALL YOU NEED. WELL, ATLEAST THATS ALL I NEED...

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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2004, 02:58:53 PM »
I live in a town where most cats sound alike. I am not into gospel music too much anyway. But I feel you. I hate the fact that musicianship is lacking in the church because nobody believes in individuality. To me, that is why gospel is not an art for cats who want to express themselves behind an instrument. For the most part anyway. 98% of churches are about playing cover tunes and do not allowa artistry.

I am not the coldest drummer, but I play gigs on the professional level and I go and sit in my church and don't do nothing becaus eI am not going to have them telling me what I need to sound like. The pros seem to like what I do and let me do my thing. We all need to find our own sound. Don't let anybody pigeonhole you into sounding like them becasue they will always get the gig that you want.

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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2005, 04:41:41 PM »
[/b]CalKey I definitely agree with u.  The guy has to be jealous.
FOR THE LAST FREAKIN TIME;  AINT NO BODY "SWEATIN" NO BODY
WE JUST GIVIN CREDIT TO TIGHT DRUMMERS, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN PLAYING ABILITES.  IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT LIKE THE FELLOW THAT STARTED THIS TOPIC, YOU MUST BE JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2005, 04:45:02 PM »
[/b]I MEAN I AGREE WITH CHRISDAVEJR[/b]

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2005, 03:54:25 AM »
just to sum it up for you guys, i dont think  the poster was hating or jealous in any way although what he said in his honesty may have not came out the best! first , the poster has a very valid point. We need to give credit where it is due  is true , most of  the drummers mentioned all the time are very good drummers, im from chicago (where Calvin Rodgers live) i know Calvin very personally we played alot in the City and hang  quite a bit! He has earned the right  to be mentioned as one of the best, and like wise the often mentioned others as well. Its about paying dues I remember Calvin sat under several drummers when he was younger who was known as "the men" in chicago at the time, when he could barely play, and threw hard work and dedication you guys see what he has acomplished, as a pro drummer. Its about paying dues, you must be willing to learn to better yourself. You can only grow as much as you are willing to sit and learn with a humble attitude!! The bible says your gift will make room for you and bring you before great men.  So this is something earned not given,  getting aculades, is not without sacrifice. However in sentiment, i share  the posters   opinion, we must learn to expand our  horizons, and embrace new talents and styles of other drummers playing that have earned the right to be mentioned in these categories now. I agree with the poster, gospel music is one of the few genres of music where musicians are more  idolized by thier chops versus thier musical expression and style. A good drummer once told me "its not what you play that matters , but the understanding of WHY you played what you played", how did what you play, add to the music and  flow,  its is obvious most drummers do not underdstand this. We are impressed with how tight some one does fill ins, or how fast someones foot is, all is useless if you dont understand your role as a  drummer! a good drummer is FELT not Heard, music should be. Ive heard some AWESOME drummers with chops out to mars, but add nothing to a song , or group, or artsist flow  because thier so busy trying to impress with  runs and moves! In gospel we tend to hold on  to artists well after it is time to accept the new person on the scene. 'we are better at  holding on to the current wheter imbracing the new! DO we really think there are no more Fred Hammond, John P kees, etc... in the world,  if we believe that then God has stopped  giving his anointing after  these artist. Isreal Houghtoin have been singing and writing praise and worship for years,  but we just decicded to   accept  him now in the "new" circle of artist ive known about his anointed  music for years  before. SO what the poster is saying is we need to give others and chance, and when they have earned the right in chops to be in this class then lets also GIve credit to whom credit is do  to these as well!! And also to contrary of popular belief,  some of the best drummers on the planet, most dont even know about! Lets not forget some of the very guys we idolize for thier playing was once  undiscoverd hidden talents!!  We ALL know SOMEBODY whether in our city or abroad that should be mentioned in this class that most dont know about yet !! It only takes word of mouth, or a big gig, to get your name out there, thats the only thing that seperates these big names we speak of, over some great drummers who havent been found yet!!  SO lets build up, encourage and boost everybody with out any tainting of jealousy, or envy, for threw this is the only way God can open the doors  of great things to you!  We must do that to further grow and only then will we see change and reform in the field of gospel  music and ministry alike!  Lets keep  praying and seeking God for his direction and guidence in our lives that his perfect will  will be done !  Peace guys! P.S even in disagreeing, we must learn to value, and respect everybodys opinions and in that process there is something to be learned, even in our disagreeing. After all, this is a Message board, we dont have to agree but lets respect every bodies views.

Offline DrummerEternal

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2005, 02:56:35 AM »
Flava you hit that right in the bullseye man.  God bless you for your words of wisdom.  We all can learn something from each other here, and thats what this is for.  We have to continue to keep each other encouraged, because we don't know who is lacking encouragement.

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2005, 02:53:18 PM »
Aww man thanx for laying it out like that. I'm feeling what you said about some of these cats not knowing how to read music. I mean anybody can get on a set make some beats, keep the pocket, and do a couple of rolls, but it takes a real drummer to sit and look at a piece of music break it down analyze it and freak it the way they want. I don't even call myself a drummer I am a percussionist. Drumset, marching band, orchestral band, piano, and a whole lot of other things. Such as Timpani, xylophone, marimba, steel drums, quads, quints, snare drum, bass drum, even cymbals. That's the kinda stuff I'm talking about. Stay up

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2005, 02:56:36 PM »
oh yea I forgot to tell you I'm from jersey too. I'm from Newark,N.J. what part are you from.

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2005, 04:01:36 PM »
i thinkk instead of putting people down about not reading etc. encourage people to do so. im starting on learning to read now to expand my playing. but im sorry, anybody CANT just sit down keep a pocket and do some nice fills. a lot of people cannot do that but we are supposed to be here to help each other. and i think calvin and gerald and chris should be talked about all the time. they are awesome drummers. we here about weckl and all them in every drum mag u pick up. and those guys are awesome too. but we got some gospel/rnb drummers that deserve to be in the spotlight just as much as weckl or vinnie. those guys are in there 40s and they are amazing. the church has amazing guys in the teens and twentys that are dangerous. imagine when calvin and chris get into there 40s. be blessed.

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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2005, 05:24:45 PM »
Hey Chicago Flava!
       I agree with you brother GOD BLESS man!
I am more than a conquerer
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