Does anyone have this problem?

[lilben]

Wassup folks!!! I play at a lot of different churches and I get along with every musician. Until one Saturday I was playing for a concert (a live recording artist). The musician and I started to have a big problem he was throwing crazy fills and solos but when i come in and do just one double he gets mad. I am like hold on you can play the way you want to but I have to stay pocket? I usually do stay pocket but he is sounding good and I start feeling the music and he tells me to leave the extra stuff out. I just wanted to have some fun. But when he told me to leave the extra stuff out I stop feeling the music and just started to play how he wanted me to. Is it that he wanted all the attention or am I wrong for throwing extra stuff in there without permission? I mean I was playing pocket the entire night and all of a sudden I wanted to have fun with him and he tells me dont do that. It really pissed me off!

[antwash]

Sometimes... the Lord tries us to see if we are willing to humble ourselves and follow the one who is leading.. There's the song... I'm too close to the mirror to see what You (God) see in me.  The one who is "orchestrating" may be hearing the Lord in a different way and may be feeling the Spirit moving in a different style or pattern than what you are..  

I guess what I'm trying to say is... "been there.. spiritual pride rose up ... repented because I didn't see which way the leader was going... and watch the Lord do something great... on that night"  If I kept playing the way that I thought... several people may not have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.   Our gifts and talents are to be used to "lift up Jesus... so that He will draw all men unto Himself"

In summary, be prayerful...when working with the "brotherhood" of Christ...

[phanupe]

I feel your pain on this. The Lord has bless me with a beautiful craft. Sometimes during performances, the anointing will hit me (or as u say"fill the music" on a different level) and when I break out, the Keyboardest look at me like I stole his Roland; HOWEVER, I notice that the people in the audience are receiving a break through. After the performance is over, they will approach me with comments such as;

a) I really enjoyed hearing u tonight

b) Continue to let God use u

c) some musicians will say " Never be afraid to break loose (stated by Chris Coleman) as long as you know where the 1 is.

So yes I understand how you feel and it makes you resent the people u play with sometimes; however, remember that God is using u and there is no telling who is in the audience looking at u to take u to the next level

Be Blessed

[Zilpex]

I have a couple things to say. If you are a hired musician, that is not to say that you are paid, simply asked to play for some event under the direction of another person, then you ought to subject to what the musical director is asking from you in the music. I think a drummer's ability to be subject to this direction is what will set the difference between being a drummer and being a musician.

I don't agree with the claims to the annointing or spirit taking over and making you play something out of tune with what is being divinely orchestrated. God will never go against his annointed and elected leader. He does not do that.

I have been in both situations where I've overplayed and recieved those nasty glares from the musical director. On the other hand I've been offered many gigs for my ability to improv. I've had to learn to discern what I am being contracted to do. I have no problem asking the director, before the gig or even the first rehearsal, if he needs me to play more of a pocket or if he want's me to throw down.

Those are just my views on approaching the ministry from a spiritual and professional stand point. I don't consider myself a professional musician, yet. However, I don't see any reason to not treat these situations as such.

That's my 2 cents...ok so maybe it's more like a buck fifty....lol

If you are hired to do a job, just do it. Do not do any more or any less than asked.

I don't remember which post it was, but around a week ago, I wrote that gospel music is not an art form where expressing yourself musically, is welcomed too much. Think about it, gospel is not jazz music. Gospel is usually based around vocalists. Even if you do gospel instrumentals, it is based around what a vocalist or the lead instrument would be saying.

As a drummer, my advice to you would be to play simple, but with attitude. Not bad attitude, but ATTITUDE. Basically, play simple, but at the highest level you can play simple. Does that make sense? Play the simple stuff and give it 110%, and you will be fine. If that is not enough for the clowns, don't sweat it.

[sonorJ]

First of all..... I feel you on this ONE!!!!!
 last summer our church did a live recording with 12 of our musicians including the horn section, and everybody gave us awesome reviews, even the local newspaper, we were "tight", no seats left, in a 1,200 seater church!  8O

but as always, satan creaps his gly head in places he should'nt be. The bass player got mad at me, the drummer, because on "Brighter Day" by kirk franklin, he wanted to do way too many basslines, and I came out the pocket for split second for some sixteenth note thrills with the double pedal, on one of his many lines. The band even knew he had way too many basslines. After the concert the band confronted him about getting angry, and a month later he left the church. Bittersweetly, God provided us with a new bass player with a good Godly attitude. :lol:

Saying all this to say, Whatever happens between you and the musician, God will intervene in the situation and bring peace. :wink:

be blessed.......

[n18thst_ii]

This is what I have to say about that. You are a drummer right? So that's what you do don't ever let nobody tell you different. If the lord leads you to do a double fill then that's what you do. you don't let nobody tell you how to do what you already know how. Not saying that you don't take constructive critizism(I think I spelled that right) but you can tell the difference between critizism and hating or trying to steal the show.