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Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« on: January 02, 2012, 02:22:09 PM »
Ive been trying to pick this bass thing back up again over the last few weeks.  :) Ive been trying different methods of exercising my hands and watching a few people on online. While practicing and exercising Ive noticed a few things. There are different positions you can put your hand in while playing. Some of them seem to lean toward injury but some of it is that you just need to exercise your hand. I was looking into those baoding balls( I used golf balls instead) and there is some benefit but it seems like the most beneficial have been hand exercises. I found simple hand exercises by Greg Irwn on youtube.
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is a good start. I used some of the more simple exercises. I believe makes a big difference when you warm up your hands verses just playing without it.

Ive also figured out that when you position you hand to do certain finger style picking its better to use the very tip of your fingers and not just the flat part of your finger. You have to use that first joint from your finger tips in order to do this. Keeping my fingers closer to the fretboard was the next big thing. It takes a little getting used to but you will use less effort when you do that. I also see that sometimes I can play faster with my picking hand by using the tip of my fingers when playing certain scales. It seems the the key to both hands is to use little effort and little movement. You can tell when you are doing this by tapping your fingers on a desk like you are playing piano real fast tapping from the thumbs out to the pinkys back and forth. If you notice it takes little effort to do this. There is no tension in your hand. It appears that if you can position your hands and play bass with that same ease you will find it easier to play what you already know.

I guess the more advanced players can verify if this it true. When you relax your body and both your hands you can play faster and practice longer without injury. It all boils down to using your hands in their natural curve.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 11:07:15 AM »
I see this has been working in a few days but I think a part of it is playing on multiple instruments also. I was practicing some chord progressions on keys last night which causes my hands to stretch and when I got on bass I felt like I could play almost anything within my limitations with much more ease. It's like a drummer playing with heavy sticks and then getting a light pair and playing. You guys should try some hand stretches and warmups.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 03:36:28 AM »
Wow.. this has shown me just how stiff my hands are..  :'( Good exercises though.. and the movement is natural.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 06:56:28 PM »
wow i'm slow

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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
I have not been doing these exercises but as I was practicing over the holidays I thought about this post. It is so much easier to play any instrument when you are relaxed and play will little effort. Im convinced that there are good bass playing positions and then there are better ones. If you play with your fingers in their natural curve you play better on any instrument. Even using too much force only slows you down with speed.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2013, 04:39:48 PM »
My pinky and ring fingers do NOT move like that.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 07:38:19 PM »
My pinky and ring fingers do NOT move like that.

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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 10:11:57 PM »
I've been practicing with the same amount of force it would take to tap your finger on a desk and I'm surprised my tendons and muscles don't hurt like they normally would playing for that length of time. It definitely does not take a lot of force to play on any instrument. I have been watching different musicians on different instruments and those who play with little effort seem to be the most fluid.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2014, 10:19:16 AM »
I brought a bass neck to work so I can practice some dummy speed exercises.  :)
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 09:33:31 PM »
a year later, my fingers still dont move like that.
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Re: Speed: Little Effort, Little Movement
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2014, 01:45:30 PM »
I have not been able to practice on my bass at lunch hardly since my last post but I got on the bass and realized my left hand pinky and ring finger are much stronger than they were. Practicing using that first joint pays off pretty quickly.  :) I even have faster speed and have not been practicing much but I was drilling my fingers in February so now I know it makes a big difference.
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