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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1640 on: May 06, 2012, 11:22:35 PM »
NRC: came up with a proposal for the master suite to show my wife ... decided to encode a video at 1280x720 at 30fps .... ... well now I have nothing to do with the next 30 minutes of my life :(

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1641 on: May 07, 2012, 01:13:33 PM »
NRC...but it's funny how, when you tell a 3-year-old it's time to take a nap, they suddenly want to start having full-blown conversations. "What are you doing today?"  ::)

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1642 on: May 07, 2012, 01:24:03 PM »
my wife brought me home some Gates BAR-BE-CUE!!!
I went to Gates while I was there.  I must've gone to the wrong one.  The staff was SO rude!  I didn't understand the random pickle slices that they served with my food, either... :D

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1643 on: May 07, 2012, 01:45:58 PM »
You ever comes across a news link that you know you probably shouldn't click, but you click it anyway and what you see disgusts you?

Just happened to me.

SO SICK of church.  >:(

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1644 on: May 07, 2012, 02:03:29 PM »
You ever comes across a news link that you know you probably shouldn't click, but you click it anyway and what you see disgusts you?

Just happened to me.

SO SICK of church.  >:(

Well are you gonna share??? Geesh...
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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1645 on: May 07, 2012, 02:21:23 PM »
Well are you gonna share??? Geesh...

It leans toward gossip, so I don't even want to go there.

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1646 on: May 07, 2012, 02:39:11 PM »
It leans toward gossip, so I don't even want to go there.

Oh well I thank you. I don't like gossip, especially not the churchy kind.
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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1647 on: May 07, 2012, 03:15:12 PM »
You ever comes across a news link that you know you probably shouldn't click, but you click it anyway and what you see disgusts you?

Just happened to me.

SO SICK of church.  >:(

That's how I feel right now.

Being in leadership isn't easy and it isn't fun.  I've been on the phone putting out fires and trying to find compromises all morning.

On one hand, one of my P&W leaders has officially requested to leave the team.  My Bishop refused.  This same P&W leader said she can't come to church early for prayer & a mini-run through of the songs because she comes to church with her mother and her mother cooks on Sunday mornings.  Really?  Can't she cook on Saturday night?  ::)

So this morning I'm on the phone with my Bishop trying to explain why we should release her if her heart isn't in it.  He's afraid that if she leaves the team her next step may be out the door.

Sticking someone in a position to keep them will.  Not.  Work.  Let the girl go!

On another hand my sister, our drummer/P&W team member, picks up kids from my mom's daycare and bring's them on Sunday mornings.  I was trying to coordinate with the van driver to see if he could pick them up, thus allowing my sister to come to church early.  No dice.  Apparently patience isn't a virtue he can't claim.  My sister said sometimes she has to wait a few minutes, so he said he'll leave them if they keep him waiting.  I totally agree with leaving them if they're making him late, but he seemed to be TRYING to get out of it.   :-\

We have a thriving youth department and we don't want to disrupt that so I'll be meeting my sister BEFORE she goes to pick them up to pray with her one-on-one until such a time as we can get the parents to ready their children earlier (or the van driver learns what 'ministry' truly means).

On yet another hand the Most Annoying Bass Player In The World texted me to say 'someone' wouldn't speak to him at church on Sunday so he's sitting down and won't be playing.

Fine by me.  He has already expressed reluctance to commit, comes to church late, comes to rehearsal late, and doesn't learn songs he's given.  I say, let him sit.  As a matter of fact I've been saying that for quite some time.

Only...my Bishop will likely want to have a meeting to discuss this and will try and convince him to continue playing for us.  Again, he wants to keep the guy by getting him involved in ministry.  It's so frustrating.

On the LAST hand I had to deal with some gossip.  Somebody went to my mom and told her that I said something I didn't.  I would personally sit down with my mom and this person and expose the lie, but my mom won't hear of it.  After a 20min convo the air was clear, what I ACTUALLY said was made plain, and it's over.




...all of this was just this morning.

Lord, deliver me from your people.   :'(
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« Reply #1648 on: May 07, 2012, 03:22:44 PM »
That's how I feel right now.

Being in leadership isn't easy and it isn't fun.  I've been on the phone putting out fires and trying to find compromises all morning.

On one hand, one of my P&W leaders has officially requested to leave the team.  My Bishop refused.  This same P&W leader said she can't come to church early for prayer & a mini-run through of the songs because she comes to church with her mother and her mother cooks on Sunday mornings.  Really?  Can't she cook on Saturday night?  ::)

So this morning I'm on the phone with my Bishop trying to explain why we should release her if her heart isn't in it.  He's afraid that if she leaves the team her next step may be out the door.

Sticking someone in a position to keep them will.  Not.  Work.  Let the girl go!

On another hand my sister, our drummer/P&W team member, picks up kids from my mom's daycare and bring's them on Sunday mornings.  I was trying to coordinate with the van driver to see if he could pick them up, thus allowing my sister to come to church early.  No dice.  Apparently patience isn't a virtue he can't claim.  My sister said sometimes she has to wait a few minutes, so he said he'll leave them if they keep him waiting.  I totally agree with leaving them if they're making him late, but he seemed to be TRYING to get out of it.   :-\

We have a thriving youth department and we don't want to disrupt that so I'll be meeting my sister BEFORE she goes to pick them up to pray with her one-on-one until such a time as we can get the parents to ready their children earlier (or the van driver learns what 'ministry' truly means).

On yet another hand the Most Annoying Bass Player In The World texted me to say 'someone' wouldn't speak to him at church on Sunday so he's sitting down and won't be playing.

Fine by me.  He has already expressed reluctance to commit, comes to church late, comes to rehearsal late, and doesn't learn songs he's given.  I say, let him sit.  As a matter of fact I've been saying that for quite some time.

Only...my Bishop will likely want to have a meeting to discuss this and will try and convince him to continue playing for us.  Again, he wants to keep the guy by getting him involved in ministry.  It's so frustrating.

On the LAST hand I had to deal with some gossip.  Somebody went to my mom and told her that I said something I didn't.  I would personally sit down with my mom and this person and expose the lie, but my mom won't hear of it.  After a 20min convo the air was clear, what I ACTUALLY said was made plain, and it's over.




...all of this was just this morning.

Lord, deliver me from your people.   :'(
All of this is nutty.  And, your Bishop's mindset confuses me.  ?/?
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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1649 on: May 07, 2012, 03:23:45 PM »
That's how I feel right now.

Being in leadership isn't easy and it isn't fun.  I've been on the phone putting out fires and trying to find compromises all morning.

On one hand, one of my P&W leaders has officially requested to leave the team.  My Bishop refused.  This same P&W leader said she can't come to church early for prayer & a mini-run through of the songs because she comes to church with her mother and her mother cooks on Sunday mornings.  Really?  Can't she cook on Saturday night?  ::)

So this morning I'm on the phone with my Bishop trying to explain why we should release her if her heart isn't in it.  He's afraid that if she leaves the team her next step may be out the door.

Sticking someone in a position to keep them will.  Not.  Work.  Let the girl go!

On another hand my sister, our drummer/P&W team member, picks up kids from my mom's daycare and bring's them on Sunday mornings.  I was trying to coordinate with the van driver to see if he could pick them up, thus allowing my sister to come to church early.  No dice.  Apparently patience isn't a virtue he can't claim.  My sister said sometimes she has to wait a few minutes, so he said he'll leave them if they keep him waiting.  I totally agree with leaving them if they're making him late, but he seemed to be TRYING to get out of it.   :-\

We have a thriving youth department and we don't want to disrupt that so I'll be meeting my sister BEFORE she goes to pick them up to pray with her one-on-one until such a time as we can get the parents to ready their children earlier (or the van driver learns what 'ministry' truly means).

On yet another hand the Most Annoying Bass Player In The World texted me to say 'someone' wouldn't speak to him at church on Sunday so he's sitting down and won't be playing.

Fine by me.  He has already expressed reluctance to commit, comes to church late, comes to rehearsal late, and doesn't learn songs he's given.  I say, let him sit.  As a matter of fact I've been saying that for quite some time.

Only...my Bishop will likely want to have a meeting to discuss this and will try and convince him to continue playing for us.  Again, he wants to keep the guy by getting him involved in ministry.  It's so frustrating.

On the LAST hand I had to deal with some gossip.  Somebody went to my mom and told her that I said something I didn't.  I would personally sit down with my mom and this person and expose the lie, but my mom won't hear of it.  After a 20min convo the air was clear, what I ACTUALLY said was made plain, and it's over.




...all of this was just this morning.

Lord, deliver me from your people.   :'(

Could. Not. Do. It.

I'll be praying your strength, though.

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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1650 on: May 07, 2012, 03:29:45 PM »
I agree with RJ and SJ.
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« Reply #1651 on: May 07, 2012, 03:31:19 PM »
All of this is nutty.  And, your Bishop's mindset confuses me.  ?/?
A lot of older leaders think like that.  On my trip home the young dudes (3 brothers in their early twenties) that have the most talent and play for the jurisdiction all (well two out of the three) came to church looking like they just left the basketball courts.  They were late, had attitudes, and really have a problem if anyone says anything to them (I should qualify that the middle brother actually looked half decent and has a better spirit than the other two).  The Bishop apparently has been abiding this behavior for some time now... I was incensed and embarrassed as I had a guest.  As we left Thursday night, their father was chewing them all out, and they were dressed and on time on Friday night, but I'm wondering if that was just due to embarrasment in front of guests (the Friday night speaker was a jurisdictional official from another state), because this behavior obviously flies the rest of the time.  UGH.

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« Reply #1652 on: May 07, 2012, 03:32:00 PM »
All of this is nutty.  And, your Bishop's mindset confuses me.  ?/?

You and me both.

We have built on no foundation.  No rules, no regs, no discipline, NOTHING.  But it's built.

The foundation must be the FIRST thing you establish.  If you don't, the only solution is to tear down what you've built and build again the RIGHT way.  That's what I'm trying to do.  Put rules in place, complete with discipline that will follow if the rules are broken.  It isn't militaristic.  There's a fair measure of grace.

...but he isn't willing to enforce these rules (which he agreed on).  He's so concerned with offending people or having them leave the church that he compromises.

But you have to draw a line somewhere.  You have to dig your heels in at some point and say "This is the standard".  If someone doesn't want to be in ministry, let them leave.  It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to sing and/or play an instrument in God's presence.  It's an HONOR to be chosen to lead His people into worship.  If anyone doesn't want to do it or isn't willing to meet basic, reasonable standards, let them sit.   :-\
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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1653 on: May 07, 2012, 03:41:22 PM »
...you have to draw a line somewhere.  You have to dig your heels in at some point and say "This is the standard". If someone doesn't want to be in ministry, let them leave.  It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to sing and/or play an instrument in God's presence.  It's an HONOR to be chosen to lead His people into worship.  If anyone doesn't want to do it or isn't willing to meet basic, reasonable standards, let them sit.  :-\

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« Reply #1654 on: May 07, 2012, 03:48:53 PM »
Could. Not. Do. It.

I'll be praying your strength, though.

I surely need it.   :(
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« Reply #1655 on: May 07, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »
You and me both.

We have built on no foundation.  No rules, no regs, no discipline, NOTHING.  But it's built.

The foundation must be the FIRST thing you establish.  If you don't, the only solution is to tear down what you've built and build again the RIGHT way.  That's what I'm trying to do.  Put rules in place, complete with discipline that will follow if the rules are broken.  It isn't militaristic.  There's a fair measure of grace.

...but he isn't willing to enforce these rules (which he agreed on).  He's so concerned with offending people or having them leave the church that he compromises.

But you have to draw a line somewhere.  You have to dig your heels in at some point and say "This is the standard".  If someone doesn't want to be in ministry, let them leave.  It's a PRIVILEGE to be able to sing and/or play an instrument in God's presence.  It's an HONOR to be chosen to lead His people into worship.  If anyone doesn't want to do it or isn't willing to meet basic, reasonable standards, let them sit.   :-\

I agree...especially with something as basic as coming on time, and knowing your part when asked to play/sing.  :-\


A lot of older leaders think like that.  On my trip home the young dudes (3 brothers in their early twenties) that have the most talent and play for the jurisdiction all (well two out of the three) came to church looking like they just left the basketball courts.  They were late, had attitudes, and really have a problem if anyone says anything to them (I should qualify that the middle brother actually looked half decent and has a better spirit than the other two).  The Bishop apparently has been abiding this behavior for some time now... I was incensed and embarrassed as I had a guest.  As we left Thursday night, their father was chewing them all out, and they were dressed and on time on Friday night, but I'm wondering if that was just due to embarrassment in front of guests (the Friday night speaker was a jurisdictional official from another state), because this behavior obviously flies the rest of the time.  UGH.

Yea, don't dress it up for me, act how you act normally.  :-\
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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1656 on: May 07, 2012, 04:27:04 PM »
That's how I feel right now.

Being in leadership isn't easy and it isn't fun.  I've been on the phone putting out fires and trying to find compromises all morning.

On one hand, ....

On another hand ....

On yet another hand ....

On the LAST hand ...


...all of this was just this morning.

Lord, deliver me from your people.   :'(



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Re: THE NOBODY REALLY CARES THREAD
« Reply #1657 on: May 07, 2012, 06:21:40 PM »
I swear reading all this makes me want to bring gifts to my fellow bandmembers tomorrow night. 

Its unfortunate that a vast majority of it is a result of the empowerment of leadership wanting good music.
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« Reply #1658 on: May 07, 2012, 06:51:39 PM »
The irony of people who are afraid of offending anyone is that they end up offending everyone. :)

One thing we humans respect and defer to is someone who stands his ground, be it right or wrong, and who communicates his or her stance clearly.

Church leaders who waffle create an atmosphere of indiscipline. Shame they don't see it.
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« Reply #1659 on: May 07, 2012, 07:21:47 PM »
The irony of people who are afraid of offending anyone is that they end up offending everyone. :)

One thing we humans respect and defer to is someone who stands his ground, be it right or wrong, and who communicates his or her stance clearly.

Church leaders who waffle create an atmosphere of indiscipline. Shame they don't see it.

So. much. truth.
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