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Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« on: October 27, 2015, 10:34:35 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/index.html

Synopsis: Student snatched out of chair for refusing to move.

My opinion:  If the allegations are true that she refused to listen to her various authority figures, than the officer's actions were warranted. 

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 12:54:45 PM »
I don't think it's right for anyone to handle a child that way unless the child is posing a threat to someone's safety. To me it just looks like a typical frustrated adult lashing out at an obstinate child.
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 01:55:19 PM »
I mean, get real.  If that officer handled a blond haired, blue eyed little girl like that he'd be hanging by his ----- today. You get two people,  pick the girl up and put her in a squad car. Take her downtown for her parents to pick up.  (We are assuming that the parents were called first to come get the child). There was no need to do what he did.  What could that child do against him?  I'd be ashamed.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 02:20:32 PM »
I mean, get real.  If that officer handled a blond haired, blue eyed little girl like that he'd be hanging by his ----- today. You get two people,  pick the girl up and put her in a squad car. Take her downtown for her parents to pick up.  (We are assuming that the parents were called first to come get the child). There was no need to do what he did.  What could that child do against him?  I'd be ashamed.

They fired his behind....a good first step.  This dude was completely unjustified in his actions; to enforce the law with that level of force on an unarmed child is a crime. HOWEVER (and this by no means excuse the officer's actions), this child clearly has a problem with authority.  It has been said that a child who doesn't respect his parents will not respect any other adult outside of his home including teachers and police.  There are consequences for this type of behavior and this young lady was lucky she was in school when this happened or else this could have been yet another police involved shooting.
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2015, 09:26:49 PM »
Amen to your last part. In just 3 more years, she would be in jail or aimed at. Nobody wants that, so we must raise kids to respect authority; the first being God. This has been the problem with alot of these police brutality cases. Everyone suggests they're not resisting, but its truly defiance and disrespect not listening to the authorities. Of course this doesnt fit all cases, but the thread of non-compliance is a common one.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 07:01:11 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-video/index.html

Synopsis: Student snatched out of chair for refusing to move.

My opinion: If the allegations are true that she refused to listen to her various authority figures, than the officer's actions were warranted


NOT AT ALL. She was not a threat. He basically attacked her. I've dealt with my share of disruptive and disobedient children.

There is no way she deserved that. No one in the world can tell me she did.

Yes, she was disruptive but that was unnecessary. He's garbage.

FTR, my opinion would not change if the tables were turned.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 08:55:43 AM »
I just think, Had the student, been cooperative , would we even be talking bout this?? Look at the bigger picture in a different perspective . Yea i know the officer was pretty violent, but apply the case and affect formula here.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 10:28:22 AM »
Here's a consequence of this, police are only praised when they dont use force. Theres a time and a place for everything, and Im not saying cuz should have slammed her, but he did do something to get a result. It was a last-ditch effort to regain order in a learning environment. He probably didnt even want to come in there, but after a teacher calls, and then a principal calls, he had to get results (which is whats expected of police, and what they expect of themselves). We dont want to start considering the ripple effect of an ineffective (meaning not able to restore order under a given circumstance) police officer, dept, or nation officers. Lawlessness would have exponential growth. I understand they have to face the challenge to instantly judge how much, how hard, and how fast. So now officers are scared to use force because their jobs will be threatened, a part of the so-called "Ferguson-effect."

Anyway this video came up in my city, and they're praising this officer for dispersing a crowd by dancing. It may have worked, but it sprung from a taunt by the girl civilian in the video. Every police officer is not going to just start break dancing with persons of interest to calm them down. Nor should they have to. Use everything you got. And Im not expecting officers to take dance lessons on youtube. Perhaps more hand-to-hand combat training so they can stop using all these weapons and tasers and being fearful.
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 05:50:01 PM »
Anyone that believes the actions taken by that officer was in any way appropriate, has lost their minds.  You have to really hate someone to throw them around like that, as if she was trash. To him, she was just another nigger. That would have never happened in my school. When I was in school, my black classmates & I would have "beat the hell" out of that officer & suffered the consequences later. We definitely would not have stood there & watch this happen. But it's not just this officer, this happens all over this country. Did you see how easy it was for him to do what he did? Do you see how easy it is, for a white officer to shoot an unarmed black man?  Imagine that was your child in that video. That was hate, that was not discipline, in any way. No child, no matter the color should be treated this way.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 07:51:15 PM »
100 students protested the officer's firing by staging a walk-out during school hours.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/30/student-walkout-backs-fired-deputy-sc-school/74874920/
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 08:14:09 PM »
Such twist! Much plot! Wow :o
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 11:26:02 PM »
They could protest until they turned blue in the face, but I just wouldn't want my child-or anyone else's treated that way in school period, case closed in my mind. I don't think I am nearly alone in that thought.  I would feel that anyone who did it(under the same circumstances) should be fired. If you are going to have corporal punishment,  have at it under guidelines, or send students home,  even for the remainder of the school year if necessary.  Have their parents come and get them if needed. Don't brook a lot of nonsense from the students.  But no one needs to nor deserves to be treated like a stray dog that wandered into the class and wouldn't leave.

Of course we know that unusual force might have to be used if a student is a threat to himself or others,  but the case in question did not rise to that level.

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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 11:29:53 AM »
Way too much force. He could've escorted her out in a better way than that. I mean seriously, he grabbed the girl from behind by her throat, then flipped over the desk, then tossed her across the room. Looked more like a street fight than trying to get someone out of the room.
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Re: Police officer arrest student Aggressively
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2015, 10:47:58 PM »
my only concern as a mom of a child with emotional disabilities---my child's response would be to NOT MOVE--thus resulting in the same results? I know the majority doesn't deal with the special circumstances that we deal with as special needs and autism parents, but for me, placing the responsibility on the child to have the maturity to "get up" without truly knowing her mental state (we now know she is in foster care after recently losing her mother) is unfair. Disruptive, absolutely. That's why I believe special training is needed in all cases. Yes, she may have been disrespectful prior to the footage, but that doesn't give a GROWN man the right to throw a child in a school setting...no setting for that matter...but as we are learning with the aid of videos from all across the country, such treatment is common. But, I look at the world through a different set of eyes.

I do, however, applaud Sheriff Lott for moving quickly and bringing in the FBI immediately to do the independent investigation, thus helping to make such a quick decision.
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