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« on: June 03, 2005, 01:40:47 PM »
What pedal would you reccomend for high-gain/metal distorion?  Do you think that the Boss Metal Zone is a good choice, or do you have other suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2005, 08:55:32 AM »
if you like that bee hive sound the metal zone is  an ok pedal, like anything it depends on what amp yur pushin with it. another hard core pedal I hear is pretty good for paint peeling is the rocktron silver dragon. If you are a gospel player Im not sure why you'd want to sound like a mosh pit.  :twisted:

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 09:25:41 AM »
Personally, I can't stand the Boss metalZone pedal and I'm not a big fan of the DS-1 distortion either. I have a DS-1 and an OD-2 (overdrive/distortion) and they both have a tendency to sound thin and shrill unless they've been modified.
Naturally, the best way to get a high-gain sound is with a high-gain amplifier and not through synthetic means like a low-buck stomp box.

I'm getting ready to modify both my DS-1 and OD-2 to try and get some of the bottom end back into them and also remove the harshness of them.

There's a site called www.indyguitarist.com and the guy sell modified pedals as well as the kits to modify your own (if you can solder small electronic components).

Another site I belong to is http://www.christianmusicianradio.com/. The guitar geeks forum has some pretty knowledgible guys who could advise you on good distortion pedals.
Warning; the good sounding pedals can cost as much as a decent amplifier so know that going in.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2005, 11:05:37 AM »
Keeley seeing eye mod

Location   Mod value   
C1   .1 uf   
C2   1 uf   
C5   .1 uf   
R39   20k   
R14   1.5k   
C9   1uf   
D5   Led & 47pf in parallel   
C12   .1 uf   
C14   1 uf   
R35   2.4k   Controls led brightness
C8   1 uf   
C7   220pf

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2005, 11:10:55 AM »
Location   Stock value   Mod value   What it effects
D5      Led   
D6      Led   
C2      1uf film   
C10      .047   These two changes will give it more bass, and much more mids, basically making it a sd-1 where it left off.
C12      .047   
R35      100 ohm   Will make stock led brighter

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another ds 1 mod
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2005, 11:14:17 AM »
Location   Stock value   Mod value   What it effects
C9   .047   .1   Input cap
C2   .47   1.0   
C3   .047   .1   The higher the value, the more bass and adds compression
C10   .01      
         
D4   stock   Small LED   
D2   stock   1n4003   
         
R14   2.2k   10k   The higher the #, the more bass, less top end (low pass)---22k is a very heavy metal type tone
         
C12   .1      The higher the value, the less bass is passed through
         

C9   .1   
C2   1.0   
C3   .1   
C10      
      
D4   Small LED   
D2   1n4003   
      
R14   10k   
      
C12

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2005, 05:13:34 PM »
Ok man,

here's the deal.  a good pedal will give you a pretty usable tone for whatever you are wanting, but the biggest issue in getting the tone you want is gonna be the guitar you're using and the amp you're using, and most importantly (and obviously) the way you play.  I play a PRS Custom 24 10 top through a Sovtek mig-50 and a 2x12 cab with celestion greenbacks.  the head is all tube, so i get a nice warm tone with pretty good sustain and natural breakup on my distortion.  if i was playin through a solid state amp, no matter what distortion pedal i use, i wouldn't get the same results.  generally solid state amps have a more brittle and sterile sound.  With regards to good pedals, this is going to rely heavily on what price range you wanna go with.  One of my favorites is a Mesa Boogie V-Twin.  I love the smooth thick crunch of this pedal, and it has a tube preamp section.  unfortunately, a used one on ebay is still gonna run you $250-$300.  if you don't mind spending that, a couple of other good ones are the Budda Zenman & Phatman, and the fulltone full-drive 2, '69 pedal,'70 pedal, & distortion pro.  if these are out of your budget, the metal zone is a decent pedal if you have the time to tweak it the way you like it, the md-2 is also a decent pedal.  a couple of others are the Proco Turborat, the Electroharmonix big muff, and the marshall jackhammer.  Most of those run for around $100.  Hopefully this will give you some stuff to check out.  you can find some sound clips of a lot of these by searching the name of the pedal on www.altavista.com under the music tab.  Once again hope this helps you out man.

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2005, 10:32:28 PM »
imnotShirley, what pedal(s) are those mods for?

I have a page of Keeley mods for the DS-1 but that's it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 03:20:40 AM »
Try the Digitech Tonedriver...

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2005, 09:42:19 AM »
one of the best natural sounding OD pedals on the market today are made by a company called Xotic, the AC Booster.

All the Pros use their products.

These pedal are True bypass for eliminating any signal interference when it is switched out, doesn't have that nasaly sound, totally natural.

One of the problem I have with distortion/OD pedal is the mid hump,
nasal sound.

This pedal are totally usable.  You know how you have to dial in just
the right sweet spot on some pedals, no matter where you set this pedal
the sound is great.

check out their products at:

http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english

I guarantee you will not be disappointed.


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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 10:19:11 AM »
hey gtrdave....those are all ds1 mods. the other 2 are indyguitarist mods evil mod and one of his personal mods

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 10:24:16 AM »
one of the best natural sounding OD pedals on the market today are made by a company called Xotic, the AC Booster.

hey gjohn, im with you on that ac booster.........awsome tone 8O . Thats my next investment. Im using the fulldrive 2 right now that I love 8)

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 12:22:22 PM »
Quote from: gtrdave
Personally, I can't stand the Boss metalZone pedal and I'm not a big fan of the DS-1 distortion either. I have a DS-1 and an OD-2 (overdrive/distortion) and they both have a tendency to sound thin and shrill unless they've been modified.
Naturally, the best way to get a high-gain sound is with a high-gain amplifier and not through synthetic means like a low-buck stomp box.

I'm getting ready to modify both my DS-1 and OD-2 to try and get some of the bottom end back into them and also remove the harshness of them.

There's a site called www.indyguitarist.com and the guy sell modified pedals as well as the kits to modify your own (if you can solder small electronic components).

Another site I belong to is http://www.christianmusicianradio.com/. The guitar geeks forum has some pretty knowledgible guys who could advise you on good distortion pedals.
Warning; the good sounding pedals can cost as much as a decent amplifier so know that going in.



I also have a Boss OS-2 (Overdive/Distortion) and find that the overdrive and mixed settings sound good.  The pure distortion settings are the weakness of this pedal.  I'm on Brian Wampler's list (Indy Guitarist) and I am going to send my pedal to him to mod it.  Most distortion pedals tend to sound better when used in conjunction with an EQ pedal.  I used to have a DS-1 but I swapped it with a friend of mine for a CS-1 (compressor).  The DS-1 sounded ok, but it did not have enough gain to take it over the top.  It was a decent distortion box that would definately benefit from modding.  I've never tried the DS-2 which offered two modes of distrotion.  I've been told that the second mode sounded exactly like the Metal Zone.
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Distortion-Xotic AC Booster
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2005, 01:40:50 PM »
http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/lineup.html

the pedal I like the most is the Xotic AC Booster....very versatile
it has bass & treble knobs for almost all your distortion needs.

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2005, 01:13:59 PM »
Or, you can do some reading, and start making your own :wink:

www.diystompboxes.com

I got hooked.  So far, I've made a fuzz for my bass, a dist pedal for my cousin (in a Fossil watch tin!), a highly-modded Fuzz Face, and an overdrive/boost of someone else's original design on that site.

If you are a tinkerer at all, I highly suggest you look into that site, and all the links there.

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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2005, 01:26:36 PM »
most pedals will sound a lot different depending on what guitar and amp you are using.

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2005, 06:23:32 PM »
Using an EQ and/or compressor can make a difference too.
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