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Title: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 03, 2006, 09:15:13 AM
I own the riton Extreme and the 1st generation phantom with complete piano and studion expansion cards

I own a yamaha p80

I dont even play my triton in fact i want to throw it in the garbage sometimes the pianos sound like toy pianos

my yamaha spoiled me the piano is rich and realistic I want to get the yamaha s90 because it sounds so ggod

my roland is cool the bass and horns are pretty good

my question is why do people trip on the triton when the sounds are so cheap soundng

roland and yamaha make much better sounds of couse the production is difficult. and not user friendly as the triton but korg is not even in the same league sound wise

am i missing something tell me please because i am seriously ready to sell this thing the triton not my roland
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: Nerakwms on March 03, 2006, 02:41:18 PM
What kind of AMP/Speaker you are using to play your keyboard through.......
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 03, 2006, 03:54:22 PM
I am ashaamed to say I am using MA-8 s
by roland they are small 8 watt powered monitors ???

Do you think that is why my korg sounds so crappy

if so why does my yamaha sound good and my roland sounds at least decent
my yamaha p80 sounds like a real piano through my ma8s

but I will say there may be sonmething to the fact that i am not using a real good sound source

honestly though i am going through the sounds on this triton and i am really disappointed the guitars sound like keybouards

maybe the factory presets are substandard and i need to look into after market triton sounds

Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: timroy on March 03, 2006, 04:17:39 PM
Triton sucks but the Korg O1-W...That's what's up. I own a Triton LE (the little one.) I use it for lead synths and loop samples. The organs and bass are okay but you're right the piano samples are horrible. The O1-W is a lot more realistic and fuller. But hands down top end Yahama keyboards have the piano sample science mastered. That's Lush! Roland...em..no words for..Take care and God bless, Tim
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: dodante on March 03, 2006, 05:20:57 PM
You r very right. Korg sucks when it comes to samples. I really detest the piano samples. Regarding yamaha, I think i prefer the stage piano series to the studio keyboards cause I own a yamaha motif and I can't get a proper piano sound from it.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 03, 2006, 05:21:19 PM
Are the Yamaha keyboards weighted keys? I'm looking to upgrade; but I really want the feel  of weighted keys. And, if I were to get a Yamaha, would I need to purchase an amp. I can't really afford that right now.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 03, 2006, 08:27:38 PM
The p80n the S80 the s08 and the s90es all have weighted keys The p80 and the p90 have less sounds but they are actually a little better at reproducing that piano sound and piano feel especially when you change the touch sensitivity to hard i had a classical/jazz piano teacher named Victor Simonson and he insisted i only practice scales on a acoustic piano and he said no electric piano could substitute when he tried my p80 with that setting he didnt say anything negative and he never had anything but negative things to say about me using this board but once he played it he had nothing to say

and Victor was a real purist in terms of classical

The difference between the p80 and s80 touch feel is that the s series use the same touch accross the board where as the p80 has a little stiffer action on the lower keys then on the higher ones it is far more realistic in feel

sound they all use great samples but again the p series is dediecated only to pianos well a few strings and organ patches too

but the sound is a little better

to be honest the best pound for pound keyboard is the s90 for the money you cannot beat it

the pianos are so hot I sound like bach and mozart on them and I aint no bach and mozart try them you will love them

try the rd700 sound on the s90 you will fall in love

so what can I do about the pianos on my korg are there any other sounds and

what was my brother in christ saying about my roland

lol

let me know bro every opinion counts
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 03, 2006, 10:50:26 PM
The p80n the S80 the s08 and the s90es all have weighted keys The p80 and the p90 have less sounds but they are actually a little better at reproducing that piano sound and piano feel especially when you change the touch sensitivity to hard i had a classical/jazz piano teacher named Victor Simonson and he insisted i only practice scales on a acoustic piano and he said no electric piano could substitute when he tried my p80 with that setting he didnt say anything negative and he never had anything but negative things to say about me using this board but once he played it he had nothing to say

and Victor was a real purist in terms of classical

The difference between the p80 and s80 touch feel is that the s series use the same touch accross the board where as the p80 has a little stiffer action on the lower keys then on the higher ones it is far more realistic in feel

sound they all use great samples but again the p series is dediecated only to pianos well a few strings and organ patches too

but the sound is a little better

to be honest the best pound for pound keyboard is the s90 for the money you cannot beat it

the pianos are so hot I sound like bach and mozart on them and I aint no bach and mozart try them you will love them

try the rd700 sound on the s90 you will fall in love

so what can I do about the pianos on my korg are there any other sounds and

what was my brother in christ saying about my roland

lol

let me know bro every opinion counts


Thanks for the info, bro.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: elio on March 04, 2006, 06:09:15 AM
Amen Amen Amen. And I thought I was the only one!

Let me tell you, I own a Yamaha S90 and a Triton Rack and the difference in the quality of the pianos/EPs is incredible. I am seriously thinking of selling the Triton, as it does not suit me at all.

For instance, the Triton has one piano sample, whereas the S90 has twenty!

In a last-ditch effort to save my Triton from the Big Studio In The Sky I've bought the piano/EP expansion card, with more samples. Will let you know how that turns out.

Sjonathan02,
Go with Yamaha's, you won't regret it.

Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 04, 2006, 07:36:39 AM
please do let me know how the piano expansion works out I am very interested

The only reason I would keep this triton is if The piano expansion did something amazing Now that i had the chance to really listen my roland with the piano expansion is only a shade better then the triton pianos the yamaha sounds very authentic
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 04, 2006, 10:59:16 AM
Amen Amen Amen. And I thought I was the only one!

Let me tell you, I own a Yamaha S90 and a Triton Rack and the difference in the quality of the pianos/EPs is incredible. I am seriously thinking of selling the Triton, as it does not suit me at all.

For instance, the Triton has one piano sample, whereas the S90 has twenty!

In a last-ditch effort to save my Triton from the Big Studio In The Sky I've bought the piano/EP expansion card, with more samples. Will let you know how that turns out.

Sjonathan02,
Go with Yamaha's, you won't regret it.




Thanks for your input and info. I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 04, 2006, 11:12:58 AM
Alright, Gentlemen, after having looked at a few of these keyboards. I have a question. Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80? Forgive my ignorance, I just want to be sure that the next keyboard that I buy will be able to do more as I begin to really grow into my piano playing skills.


thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: elio on March 04, 2006, 03:41:39 PM
Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80?

Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, ;D but what you can do is hook up your S90 (it has a USB port) to a PC and use the Yamaha bundled sequencer software (SQ01) to record midi. As for recording actual sound, I connected the out port of the S90 to the soundcard of my PC and use http://audacity.sourceforge.net for recording. The S90 can play midi files directly, but not record them.

If you want to create midi, look at the Motif series (think of it as a S90 plus a sequencer).

I don't know about the P series.

HTH
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 04, 2006, 08:26:46 PM
Will I be able to create midis and things of that nature with these Yamahas (such as the S90 or the P80?

Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, ;D but what you can do is hook up your S90 (it has a USB port) to a PC and use the Yamaha bundled sequencer software (SQ01) to record midi. As for recording actual sound, I connected the out port of the S90 to the soundcard of my PC and use [url]http://audacity.sourceforge.net[/url] for recording. The S90 can play midi files directly, but not record them.

If you want to create midi, look at the Motif series (think of it as a S90 plus a sequencer).

I don't know about the P series.

HTH



Ok, well that's not good. I'm looking for a keyboard with weighted keys, the ability to record midis and put them on the Internet, like others here have done. All of this under $1500; $2000 at the most.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: bmoreprodigy on March 04, 2006, 08:52:31 PM
i have a roland XP 80 and i love it but im ready to move up to a roland X8
i guess you can say i love ROLANDS
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: CATRON on March 04, 2006, 10:54:22 PM
REALLY I FEEL WERE ALL OF YOU ARE COMING FROM. I THINK THAT THE TRITON SERIES KEYBOARD ARE REALLY MAINLY USED FOR AUXILARY KEYBOARDS. LIKE FOR SYNTHS, BASSES, BRASS STRINGS ECT. THE KORG SERIES PIANO'S,ELETRIC PIANO'S,RHODES,WURLITZERS,ORGANS,ECT ARE HORRIBLE. AND THE CRAZYTHING ABOUT IT IS THAT THE MOTIF ES'S PIANOS, E. PIANOS, RHODESS, WURLITZERS, ORGANS,ECT ARE EXCELLENT. BUT THERE AUX SOUNDS LIKE SYNTHS,BASS ECT AREN'T THAT GOOD TO ME. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO HAVE A MIDI CONTROLLER. AND BUY A TRITON RACK SERIES AND A MOTIF ES RACK SERIES AND MIDI THE BOTH OF THEM TO THE MIDI CONTROLLER AND THIS WAY YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH SOUNDS GOING INTO I KEYBOARD.




HOLLA
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: ferrente on March 04, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
I think Yamaha Rules.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 05, 2006, 07:27:12 PM
Wow a lot of comments on this subject but it isso important because as church musicians we have different needs.

Some of us need lead sounds horns and basses others need organs some need strings some need to do recording and live playing
Like for example from players standpoint one who requires a realistic piano sound it is evident that Yamaha is the way to go.
And that is all I really need a straight piano with 88 keys weighted so i can develop a good touch and feel

But for like the brother sais auxilliary sounds such as leads strings synths he likes korg and I will admit korg has some nasty sounding film score stuff and dance type sounds for super contemporary so I shouldnt their sounds are cheap but most keyboardist from the old school mearsure board by its piano patches

Question for all you Roland heads I have the first generation Phantom I have the concert piano srx expansion but it doesent sound all that great is there a difference in the sound engine of the new phantom with the sampler?

Elio did you check out your triton piano expansion yet is it any Good?

 
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: elio on March 06, 2006, 05:34:10 AM
Ok, well that's not good. I'm looking for a keyboard with weighted keys, the ability to record midis and put them on the Internet, like others here have done. All of this under $1500; $2000 at the most.
Any ideas?
Lemme have a go. I'll stick with Yamahas.
A new Motif ES8 is $2900
A used Motif 8 is $2000
Either one will have weighted keys, a sequencer, all that you've described above.

However, if you think about it, you'll still have to go through a PC to connect to the internet. So, if you have a PC that's permanently set up next to your keyboard, you can still buy a keyboard without sequencer (S90ES: $2000) and use your PC to record midi/sound. If that's acceptable for you, a new S90ES is $2000. Otherwise, buy a used Motif.

Does that help?
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: elio on March 06, 2006, 05:54:47 AM

Elio did you check out your triton piano expansion yet is it any Good?
 

Yes, I used it during yesterday's service. The Triton got a stay of execution with that  ;). IMHO, the pianos are a marked improvements from the Triton built-ins, the EPs still suffer from the same lack of definition than the original ones. My bass player keeps telling me to "stop playing underwater", if you know what I mean.
It might be that with some work on the sounds I'll get something usable for the EPs but, frankly, I have better things to do with my time.  :(

So, my judgment remains: even with the expansion the Triton is not very suitable for church playing. Shame I did not really find out until after buying it  :P.

Does this help?
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: GeneralMusic on March 06, 2006, 07:56:09 AM
To Sjonathan:

Praise the Lord,

Have you considered the Yamaha MO 8?  It retails for 1599.00 I got one Saturday night while they were having 20% off making the pirce 1280.00 from Samash Music Stores.  Unforunately, there is not a lot of content, reviews available of this board.  I must say I was impressed I didnt get home until around 12am so I didnt have much time to get to know it.  Took it to church Sunday morning and had a ball.  Your questions?  Is it in your price range? Yes!  Can it connect to computer?  Yes, through midi or its built in USB connectors it actually has two, have to find out what the other one is for, Here is the big one that is not even talked about READY?  IT USES THE SAME SOUND ENGINE AS THE YAMAHA ES 8.   I do know it doesnt have all the features of the Motif supposedly, but I got a seriously think Manual all in English, it has built in Sequencer, over 1800 sounds, appegeatior, realtime knobs well it looks just like the Motif,  I never had a Motif so I dont know what its missing I still have one bank of sounds that I have not went through the Waveform Bank which I havent figured out how to get to yet?  Help Motif users!!!  Anyway for the money this Keyboard is worth it for the sounds alone.  I am going to see if I can download any sounds into it, at the store and over the phone they told me it has no built in sequencer and a few other things that were not true so it might be able to recieve that Triple Strike Piano thats on the Yamaha S90 I stepped out of Faith to get this keyboard.   So far it has exceeded my expectations and thats only after less than 24 hours. 
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: sjonathan02 on March 06, 2006, 08:21:32 AM
To Sjonathan:

Praise the Lord,

Have you considered the Yamaha MO 8?  It retails for 1599.00 I got one Saturday night while they were having 20% off making the pirce 1280.00 from Samash Music Stores.  Unforunately, there is not a lot of content, reviews available of this board.  I must say I was impressed I didnt get home until around 12am so I didnt have much time to get to know it.  Took it to church Sunday morning and had a ball.  Your questions?  Is it in your price range? Yes!  Can it connect to computer?  Yes, through midi or its built in USB connectors it actually has two, have to find out what the other one is for, Here is the big one that is not even talked about READY?  IT USES THE SAME SOUND ENGINE AS THE YAMAHA ES 8.   I do know it doesnt have all the features of the Motif supposedly, but I got a seriously think Manual all in English, it has built in Sequencer, over 1800 sounds, appegeatior, realtime knobs well it looks just like the Motif,  I never had a Motif so I dont know what its missing I still have one bank of sounds that I have not went through the Waveform Bank which I havent figured out how to get to yet?  Help Motif users!!!  Anyway for the money this Keyboard is worth it for the sounds alone.  I am going to see if I can download any sounds into it, at the store and over the phone they told me it has no built in sequencer and a few other things that were not true so it might be able to recieve that Triple Strike Piano thats on the Yamaha S90 I stepped out of Faith to get this keyboard.   So far it has exceeded my expectations and thats only after less than 24 hours. 


Excellent advice. Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 06, 2006, 09:21:31 AM
Thanks Elio on the update on the piano expansion for the Triton My Roland has some good electric pianos with the studio srx expansion I have a lot of usatle sounds maybe I will buy the expansion and forget the s90 purchase i could stand to keep my 1,200 na mean

I am torn between buying the s90 just to have it to practice on and play the occasional gig, or just buying a yamaha brain and midi to my  p80 that will caost almost the same as buying the s90 and i will have to lug around two pieces of equiptment instead of one,

One thing about the Triton nobody has said it is the easiest major workstation around Roland is complicaed and Yamaha is real complicated
yo do sequencing on and tracking the roland has no internal memory to remember your tracks so you always have to load on a disc that is a drag

I had the sy85 and that was easy to use I dont know what thery were thinking of when they made the motiff but it is very hard to learn how to use the sequencer It took me about an hour to figure our how to lay a drum track with a bass line

and the roland has some weird idea that people like to use prearranged drum tracks so laying a druim track requires you to sit down with the manual and really knock your head to figure out how to create and original drum track



 so the the roland  phantom is not so easy to use either but easier then the yamaha motif

the triton is a piece of cake so you can get right to the music

and it does have some usable sounds just not the pianos  :P
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: PNJai on March 06, 2006, 07:30:55 PM
Right now I have Roland RS-70...eventually I'd like to get the Fantom s-88......I never really was big on Tritons...they are so overused....
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: Hesh on March 06, 2006, 07:56:06 PM
I currently own the Roland Fantom X-8, and play the Korg Triton Studio (88 Keys) at church.  I became interested in the Fantom last summer when I was producing a CD for a christian artist. The studio I was in had one and the engineer recommended I use it. I'm glad he gave me the tip. I used it all over the album, and it really made the difference, especially with various keyboard pads. The sequencer is awesome. I'm currently working on a new studio project, and it has proven to be tremendously efficient and professional sounding.

For "synth" sounds, strings, brass, and ethereal pads, the Fantom kicks. Although the piano patches have decent clarity (in all octaves) I miss the "bite" that the Yamaha Motif offers. You just can't get a better piano sound, than a Yamaha. It has that "rumble" on the lower octaves that cut through in a live performance.

For me, it's tough to say that one keyboard is better than the other. The ultimate setup would be to have all three!
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: ES7Mike on March 06, 2006, 09:09:55 PM
At my old church, we had a fantom (the original). the fantom has some good synth sounds and some ok rhodes sounds, but when you want true sound at an affordable price, go try out a yamaha S90, or motif or motif es. I haven't tryed the Mo series yet so I dont know what to expect.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: elio on March 07, 2006, 03:40:35 AM
To GeneralMusic:
I believe the Mo8 does not have weighted keys, am I right?

To Diverse:
Given that you have a P80 already, have you considered buying a good rack synth (Motif rack or similar) and a cheap 88-note controller (Fatar, M-Audio)? So that at home you play the (weighted, nice) P80 and on the road the (lightweight) controller. That should be well within your budget...

Peace
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 07, 2006, 05:13:54 AM
TO Elio YOu know what I hadnt conisedred that recently I was going to do that years ago befor I bought the phantom I was going to By three Roland 2020 and hook it to an 88 note controller

that is a god idea

but The guys ag sam ash sais the s90 has poianos that the motif does not like the rd700 or triple strike I am not sure whic ones exactly but he said tha the s90 has unique performance sounds specifically for that unit but I better go check it out myself

Thanks Elo

Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: T_Keys on March 07, 2006, 05:44:33 PM
I have a MO8 and a Motif ES rack- Its a pretty good setup but I am looking at a Fantom Rack.
The MO8 keyboard is a beast- I see no reason 4 anyone to ever buy the Motif ES 8 now.
Yamaha's brass, strings, etc. are not that great, but I have never bought the Yamaha expansion cards, which I heard are very nice.
Tritons in general are overrated- my friend has an Extreme at his house and even he says its horrible.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: GeneralMusic on March 07, 2006, 09:11:07 PM
Glory to God!!

T Keys I need to talk to you brother about the MO8 I cant get to that Waveform Bank thats in the Data List Book, help me out please?  717 291-9166 or 717 606 9043 is my cell I am on Sprint.   The MO 8 does have Weighted Keys they have a nice feel to them.  I havent gotten past the Pianos and EPs and Organs to mess with the Strings or Brass Yet which I do use especially the brass.  I hope they alright on here.  This Keyboard is very underated matter of fact no one even rates it they must look down on it but I tell you this This is the Sleeping Giant go and see for yourself at the music store.  And The Triton TR Series is a sleeper, It sounds way better than the Triton Studio.  They upgraded the ram the sounds and its a lot cheaper, dont sleep on this one either. 

God Bless You,


Brother Mark Wilson
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: GeneralMusic on March 08, 2006, 08:12:08 AM
Any other MO 8 users here?
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: Wash on March 08, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
I agree with Hesh.  I do a lot of production of projects and having all three seems to be complete on  giving  the various phat sounds I need or desire.

The triton is very user friendly as stated, however the piano patches are just not
there.  Suggestion:  Get piano expansion board - Also the Moss board.  This really enhances.  I also interface via midi the triton with a yamaha rack.  You can get some outstanding sounds mixing the two keyboards.  But by far on a stand alone the Yamaha Motif piano sounds are "nice".  I also have a roland combo VR-760.
The organ sounds are sweet. the synth exceptional - and the various piano sounds like fender rhodes etc are really exceptional.  I mix and tweak all the time but I do get exactly what I am looking for.  Another factor in obtaining good sound is the sound system you are playing through.  Each of the above I have added expansion boards.  I sould suggest before just purchasing a keyboard because if doesn't sound quite right to do the research on how to tweak them.   I have heard triton players with some phat sounds (either exp boards or tweaking).  Check on the web for a users group of whatever boards you have for info on how to do this.  I love all three (Triton, Roland and Yamaha). I make them work for me not me work for them.  For the advanced:  Sometimes getting the correct phat sounds goes into like programming. Hope this helps.    If you are looking for something right out of the box with excellent piano (hands down Motif yamaha or Roland.    God Bless.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: timroy on March 08, 2006, 01:49:14 PM
Buy a Triton Le for $1000! Hit me back for details, Troy
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 08, 2006, 05:12:43 PM
Hey wash You took me back

My first keyboard was a Bit one by chroma polaris it was an anolog board with digital programming I used to program all the time assigning sine waves adjustin the Lfo

and it was fun in fact you never sat down to write a song unless yo created sounds especially for that song

The Dx7 changed that for a lot of people the programming on that was too difficult so people started making patches and selling them now I havent programmied on any of my recent boards I used to do some on my sy85 but I haven tried lately on my roland I just buy expansion boards

you said so many true things you almost make me want to keep my triton extreme

what did you say buy a mo8 what is that I thought it was a keyboard but you made it seem like it is a sound card for the triton

and you mentioned buying the piano expanison card

before I go out and buy this thing is it going to gfive me what a yamaha does because if not I will pass

I have the concert piano expansion board for roland and it is ok but I am not staying up late to play it  Na Mean

I will try the user groups you mentioned that may help  thanks
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: T_Keys on March 09, 2006, 11:41:07 AM
Glory to God!!

T Keys I need to talk to you brother about the MO8 I cant get to that Waveform Bank thats in the Data List Book, help me out please?  717 291-9166 or 717 606 9043 is my cell I am on Sprint.   The MO 8 does have Weighted Keys they have a nice feel to them.  I havent gotten past the Pianos and EPs and Organs to mess with the Strings or Brass Yet which I do use especially the brass.  I hope they alright on here.  This Keyboard is very underated matter of fact no one even rates it they must look down on it but I tell you this This is the Sleeping Giant go and see for yourself at the music store.  And The Triton TR Series is a sleeper, It sounds way better than the Triton Studio.  They upgraded the ram the sounds and its a lot cheaper, dont sleep on this one either. 

God Bless You,


Brother Mark Wilson


I got u doc.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: csharp35 on March 09, 2006, 01:26:47 PM
i've owned all 3 boards...just traded the roland fantom for a korg TR61. Here's why...

At the church...we have a motif es rack we use for the primary keyboard player. Yamaha no doubt has better piano sounds than the korg. I also bought an extreme to use at the church to patch in strings when the secondary is playing organ.

The secondary keyboardist had the fantomx6...the only good sounds in our opinion were the pianos and some of the brass. The organ's sucked and the strings were okay. So instead...after much research and testing, we went with the Korg TR which has many of the brass, organ, bass, and string sounds from all the tritons...plus some other cool sounds. 

As far as the korg triton classic...you will always see them at any concert. For one big reason...the touch screen and sequencer! It is is user friendly especially when doing sequences. The motif's sequencer is not as user friendly and the fantom is okay...but the touch screen is a big factor...plus the sequencer is pretty locked. Also the triton's only downfall is the piano...but that's why you always see a motif on stage along with the triton. ;)

I have a korg triton classic, kurzweil pc 88 and motif es8 (just upgraded) in the studio. Didnt get the MO because of the 64 polyphony, it not having all the sounds as the ES, no sampling, etc. Go to motifator.com to see the comparision charts of the sounds in the MO and ES.

I love my triton and will never part from it...it will go down in history.  Yamaha has the best piano's hands down (acoustic and electric). But for production...korg triton is it and you can always midi the sounds from the motif into the triton as an external sound source.

Bottom line...it all comes down to what your needs are...we felt it was no use to duplicate having good pianos with keeping the fantom and lack in the other areas...so we went for the Korg.

Hope this help!
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: diverse379 on March 09, 2006, 01:59:32 PM
Amen I found the replies and the responses very informative

At first I was just venting but some of you shared some really good insights

like the layering I remember going to watch Nate Mcnair rehearse At Calvary Baptst Church and he would come up with the most awesome layers he was a master at combining sounds

In fact I used to do it too with my roland brain and my sy85v and my kurzweil micro piano
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: benjimatt on March 09, 2006, 11:10:23 PM
i thought that the piano sounds on the extreme were pretty decent.  but that was run through the church sound system. which is really good.

I think im going to buy a alesis fusion.  i really like the sounds.  the piano sounds pretty real to me. 

what do you guys think.  here are the options

alesis fusion
neko le


i wanted to save for the korg oasys but thats a lot of money. 
Title: Yamaha S08
Post by: Rjthakid on March 23, 2007, 02:47:24 PM
Man, the price is right on the S08.  Does anybody know what the Piano sounds are like on that one?
Title: Re: Yamaha S08
Post by: P_music on March 23, 2007, 03:07:02 PM
Man, the price is right on the S08.  Does anybody know what the Piano sounds are like on that one?

They are alright, but not fantastic. It has the same sounds (wave ROM) as the Yamaha S03. Just like the S80/S30 have the same sounds, the S90/Motif have the same sounds, and the S90ES/Motif ES have the same sounds. Guitar Centers still sell the S03, so you can try it out in their stores and judge the sound for yourself. Be Blessed!

p_music
Title: Re: Yamaha S08
Post by: Rjthakid on March 23, 2007, 03:16:09 PM
They are alright, but not fantastic. It has the same sounds (wave ROM) as the Yamaha S03. Just like the S80/S30 have the same sounds, the S90/Motif have the same sounds, and the S90ES/Motif ES have the same sounds. Guitar Centers still sell the S03, so you can try it out in their stores and judge the sound for yourself. Be Blessed!

p_music

RATS!

Thanks for the info.   ;D
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: KurzLand on March 23, 2007, 06:08:51 PM
REALLY I FEEL WERE ALL OF YOU ARE COMING FROM. I THINK THAT THE TRITON SERIES KEYBOARD ARE REALLY MAINLY USED FOR AUXILARY KEYBOARDS. LIKE FOR SYNTHS, BASSES, BRASS STRINGS ECT. THE KORG SERIES PIANO'S,ELETRIC PIANO'S,RHODES,WURLITZERS,ORGANS,ECT ARE HORRIBLE. AND THE CRAZYTHING ABOUT IT IS THAT THE MOTIF ES'S PIANOS, E. PIANOS, RHODESS, WURLITZERS, ORGANS,ECT ARE EXCELLENT. BUT THERE AUX SOUNDS LIKE SYNTHS,BASS ECT AREN'T THAT GOOD TO ME. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO HAVE A MIDI CONTROLLER. AND BUY A TRITON RACK SERIES AND A MOTIF ES RACK SERIES AND MIDI THE BOTH OF THEM TO THE MIDI CONTROLLER AND THIS WAY YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH SOUNDS GOING INTO I KEYBOARD.




HOLLA

Yamaha and Korg compliment each other well. The strongest point in the new Korg M3 is the synth sounds, while the acoustic sounds need help, but Korg is getting there.

The Motif XS strongest point is the acoustic sounds, but Yamaha is getting good with their synth sounds too.

I would take Yamaha. Roland and korg don't catch my attention a lot. Just My Opinion. :)
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: MMCOGICboy on March 26, 2007, 04:30:55 PM
Has anyone tried the Korg TR 88 and if so does the piano sounds sound that bad.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: T_Keys on March 26, 2007, 11:14:45 PM
Has anyone tried the Korg TR 88 and if so does the piano sounds sound that bad.

I own the Korg TR 6 and assuming the sounds banks are the same, then, yeah there is about one decent piano, called StereoPiano- it sounds pretty good, the other piano "noises" dont really turn heads like Yamaha. the Korg TR series ep's arent fantastic either. -Just my opinion, fellas. But some some of those synths, strings & organs are nice.
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: fmason3 on March 27, 2007, 02:16:12 PM
I was eyeballing the ES8 at first...then I found out that the S90ES has the same sounds and I can do all of the extra stuff on my computer....then the MO8 came out...with almost all the sounds I'd use for less money (although less polyphony)...so I'm torn...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: MrSparrow on March 29, 2007, 11:06:33 AM
So what's the best Church keyboard? I was going to get the ES90 for my church but I want to hear more from you brothers first...

I have a patron of the church ready to write a check for the board but I want to get the best...

MrSparrow
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: T_Keys on March 29, 2007, 01:05:56 PM
So what's the best Church keyboard? I was going to get the ES90 for my church but I want to hear more from you brothers first...

I have a patron of the church ready to write a check for the board but I want to get the best...

MrSparrow

Shoot, the S90ES is like one of the top performance boards out there... those pianos on there are ridiculous! get it!
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: MrSparrow on March 29, 2007, 02:13:17 PM
Will do...

Right now I have a OLD Trinity V3 Pro...

When I play in the upper register you hear the THUD from my fingers louder than you hear the high notes...

Oh well...

Out with the old and in with the new...

MrSparrow
Title: Re: Triton vs Roland vs yamaha
Post by: Wolfram on March 29, 2007, 04:20:03 PM
My current rig is a Triton (Classic), A Trinity TR-Rack, Kurzweil Micro Piano, and a Hammond XK-3.

Let me tell about the Triton from this user's stand point.

I waited and saved and waited and saved to get this board.  I own a Korg 01w/fd and a Korg X3, I have owned a M1 and a T3 so to say that I was a Korg man would be an understatement.  When I purchased the Triton I also purchased the upgraded Piano card and the vintage keys card.

I am not really that stoked with this board.  The pianos are useless unless you run them in stereo OR you enjoy listening to a synthetic hodge podge of bad sampling.  The electric pianos are weak.  There is no real rhodes sound.  You just have to make due with what they gave you.  Under the headphones, It sounds GREAT.  Live, not so much.  I purchased the Trinity rack for its electric piano and the Kurzweil for the grand piano sounds. 

What does the Triton have going for it?  Well, that all depends on the type of music you play.  The keyboard was most definitely design for the hip hop world.  The strings are excellent, so are the brass.  The synth sounds are ok.  The organ sounds were bad enough that I purchased a EMU B3 Module prior to getting my Hammond.

Now, you are probably wondering why I kept this board?  Well the sequencer is the bomb.  The touch screen is phenom and as a controller, you cannot ask for better.  I just wish that they would have spent less time trying to come up with the 10 gazillion sounds they put in that board and just got the 15 or 20 essentials right.

I have played the Motif ES.  This is a really nice board.  The power supply is a little flimsy.  The person that I know has had to replace the internal power supply twice at this point.  This is not a good thing to have to do if you are a busy musician.

These are only my 2 cents.  Your mileage may vary...

Wolfram