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Title: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: phatstrings on January 22, 2008, 08:51:26 AM
 In the secular music business, we know that (in most caes) you must look certain ways and be of certain sizes to be considered a music 'star'.My question is, is this (even if remotely) the case in the gospel arena?
 
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: vtguy84 on January 22, 2008, 09:02:40 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: themidiroom on January 22, 2008, 09:04:37 AM
Good looks seem to be an advantage in all areas.  It's sad but true.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 09:09:32 AM
Yes.

I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 09:11:47 AM
I dunno... good question, though.

I guess remotely that may be the case, but certainly not overwhelmingly... and most certainly not to the degree that it matters in a secular music career.

I think that consumers of gospel music are more interested in the sound, the music, the lyrics, the ability of the music to minister, and the overall product than in the appearance.  I could give COUNTLESS examples of gospel artists who are extremely popular right now, but are not in the least bit attractive.  I just don't want to say something that may be deemed offensive, so I won't call names.  But, some of the hottest artists out there right now are obese, short, funny-looking, or have bad teeth or bad complexions, and other flaws that just would NOT fly over in the secular world.  :-\

Basically what I'm saying is that in gospel, it's more about "CAN YOU BLOW?" and "ARE YOUR CDs BLAZIN?" than it is about how hot and sexy you are.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: jlewis on January 22, 2008, 09:12:32 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D

cosign.

I think in the gospel world,   it still pays to have good looks,  but singing ability will trump  looks EVERY time in the gospel arena.

This is definitely not true in the  secular arena.

Jlewis
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 09:13:36 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D

Awwwww....  :-[
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 09:14:42 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D

I was thinking the same thing but I wasnt gonna name names. You never know whose lurking this site.
and exhibit B is kinda cute, and when you got runs like that who cares?!!
Exhibit C when you play the organ like that who cares?!!

To me the cutest gospel artist is Casandra O'neal I might have visit LA one day soon
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: changedman on January 22, 2008, 09:14:54 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D


But when your daddy is a big-name Bishop (plus you have an awesome skill), it's easier to get started.  When you have the influence of certain people (hence, "it's all in who you know") it's a lot easier.

A rookie (like yours truly) who only registers about a 6 on the good looks scale has a HARD time getting started.  Especially when they don't know any "Brand Name" people in the industry who owes them a favor or two.

But ONCE I (not IF I) shed about 20 pounds and do a few more "quick changes" to my overall look, getting top billing in the industry will be no problem!  I don't plan to go to the extreme, but I know that a brutha gotta look good if he wanna sell a album...real talk.  Sad talk...but real.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: vtguy84 on January 22, 2008, 09:18:31 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D

I think Kim and Twinkie look great.  Maybe I'm by myself.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SirTJ on January 22, 2008, 09:20:13 AM
I think Kim and Twinkie look great.  Maybe I'm by myself.

I agree, myself.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: themidiroom on January 22, 2008, 09:21:04 AM
But ONCE I (not IF I) shed about 20 pounds and do a few more "quick changes" to my overall look,
So does this mean you'll be converting to turkey chilli?    ;D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 09:25:10 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D

Theres always a few exceptions... ;D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 09:30:04 AM
Kim and Twinkie are not ugly, however, because of weight issues they do not have "the look " by the secular standards.

I gave my sincere opinion, regardless if they are here on LGM or not. I think the stars all know what they look like. The topic is about having "a look".

Another is Fred Hammond. The brother is anointed. The brother don't have the look.

The gospel industry is much different than secular. "The look" in the secular is all about the physical. "The look" for gospel artist is all about the anointing. In the gospel arena, the fans aren't looking to see if you can dance good or if you are a certain size. Gospel arena focuses on your ministry and anointing.

Fred, Twinkie, Tye, & Kim most likely wouldn't make it in the secular world. But in the gospel world they are awesome.

Case and point---Rueben Studdard. He didn't do well in the secular world, but his gospel album did very well.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 09:31:28 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
Exhibit B - Kim Burrell
Exhibit C - Twinkie Clark
 ;D


COSIGN!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: themidiroom on January 22, 2008, 09:33:49 AM
....because of weight issues they do not have "the look " by the secular standards.
This is somewhat ironic because the body is supposed to be a temple but you see some of the biggest folks in church.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 09:35:22 AM
Wow.  Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 09:38:05 AM
Kim and Twinkie are not ugly, however, because of weight issues they do not have "the look " by the secular standards.

I gave my sincere opinion, regardless if they are here on LGM or not. I think the stars all know what they look like. The topic is about having "a look".

Another is Fred Hammond. The brother is anointed. The brother don't have the look.

The gospel industry is much different than secular. "The look" in the secular is all about the physical. "The look" for gospel artist is all about the anointing. In the gospel arena, the fans aren't looking to see if you can dance good or if you are a certain size. Gospel arena focuses on your ministry and anointing.

Fred, Twinkie, Tye, & Kim most likely wouldn't make it in the secular world. But in the gospel world they are awesome.

Case and point---Rueben Studdard. He didn't do well in the secular world, but his gospel album did very well.


(http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/Jlaws318/snoopsmh.gif)

Look at Luther VAndross, Kelly Price, Biggie smalls, Fat Pun, Fat joe, Sean kingston, Heavy D, Aretha Franklin all them was FAT,

I think that Heavy people are accepted more by the black music world as oposed to mainstream pop,
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: phatstrings on January 22, 2008, 09:39:13 AM
I'd disagree---
Exihibit A - Tye Tribbett
 ;D

 But Tye's backups are cute. Plus some people like his teeth (seriously)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 09:39:37 AM
This is somewhat ironic because the body is supposed to be a temple but you see some of the biggest folks in church.

This is true...Gluttoney is a sin. That tells us that some of these artist, and other Christians have "big" issues too. However, we tend to only want to address homosexuality, substance abuse, adultery and fornication. Sin is sin. We can't dismiss the fact that the artists are humans who sin.

But back to the issue at hand, it's the gospel industry that embraces and artist regardless of their look. THe secular industry wants you to be superficial. People rather take the risk of being in the world for exposure, and money just to get the temporal things. Spreading the gospel has eternal rewards.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SirTJ on January 22, 2008, 09:40:18 AM
Speaking of Twinkie:

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m256/godzchild92/sigtwink.jpg)

That gal is looking GOOOOD.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 09:42:20 AM
Speaking of Twinkie:

([url]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m256/godzchild92/sigtwink.jpg[/url])

That gal is looking GOOOOD.


That photo must be 20 years old :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: joshuag on January 22, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
cosign.

I think in the gospel world,   it still pays to have good looks,  but singing ability will trump  looks EVERY time in the gospel arena.

This is definitely not true in the  secular arena.

Jlewis


also fred hammond, sorry his is over weight... so i would agree with larue in gospel they want to know if you can blow...
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 09:46:20 AM
([url]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/Jlaws318/snoopsmh.gif[/url])

Look at Luther VAndross, Kelly Price, Biggie smalls, Fat Pun, Fat joe, Sean kingston, Heavy D, Aretha Franklin all them was FAT,

I think that Heavy people are accepted more by the black music world as oposed to mainstream pop,


That's true. Note-- Aretha was small when she got started & Kelly Price didn't really make the money in the secular world. She had to come back to the gospel.

There are some execptions, but look at the overall population of secular artist, it's about the look. That's why we had Milli Vinilli (sp)--- they had the look, but not the voice. Martha from Weather Girls didn't have the look, but they used her voiv in C&C Music Factory.

Most of the artist you named came out before the 90's. This thing about the look became more popular in recent years. That's why cute girls are having their voices done over in the studio. They look good, but can't sing.

In the gospel world, you got to be able to sing or like Kirk Franklin, write, do music and teach your group how to sing.

Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 09:52:16 AM
Wow.  Interesting stuff.

I'm kinda caught between a rock and a hard place, here... LOL.

I'm trying to stay out of the fray on this one, but I really hate passive-aggression, and being that I've said so countless times, I don't want to be a hypocrite.  So, I'm just going to share my thoughts and take whatever fire comes with it.

I'm really disappointed at the direction this thread took after our fruitful discussion in VT's "Opinionated" thread yesterday.  We all have opinions (and Lord knows mine come a dime a dozen), but as Christians, we DO need to be more tactful in sharing them.  And as VT (I think?) said in that other thread, we don't want to say anything that might be offensive to a person if they were standing right here among us.  And like Sister T (I think?) said in that thread, we don't want to make excuses for saying things tactlessly.

I respect everyone's right to their opinion.  But, I really don't think we should be calling names in this thread under any circumstances at all, unless what we're saying is edifying or positive.  Shun the very appearance.  Even if we don't mean to be offensive, sometimes, we can.  And what's worse is that online, you may not ever even know how far your words can reach.  The devil is a master manipulator.  He can turn your not-so-bad intentions into a hot mess just to tear up the body.

That's my two cents.  If y'all don't hear from me anymore, I ran off to Costa Rica.  LOL
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: phatstrings on January 22, 2008, 09:56:18 AM
This thing about the look became more popular in recent years. That's why cute girls are having their voices done over in the studio. They look good, but can't sing.



 That's why i dont listen to secular (with a few exceptions,LOL) i dont miss it either.It's sooo easy not to listen to them. I know of non christians who listen to a lot of Gospel music,just because the music is good. I tell you the best music is still in church
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 09:57:22 AM
That's true. Note-- Aretha was small when she got started & Kelly Price didn't really make the money in the secular world. She had to come back to the gospel.

There are some execptions, but look at the overall population of secular artist, it's about the look. That's why we had Milli Vinilli (sp)--- they had the look, but not the voice. Martha from Weather Girls didn't have the look, but they used her voiv in C&C Music Factory.

Most of the artist you named came out before the 90's. This thing about the look became more popular in recent years. That's why cute girls are having their voices done over in the studio. They look good, but can't sing.

In the gospel world, you got to be able to sing or like Kirk Franklin, write, do music and teach your group how to sing.



I agree, even though I guess I'm too young to know the artist you mentioned,
anyway, we still got Jill Scott, and sadly thats all that I can think of. Almost all the music that is being put out now is pure crap, these little people simply dont know how to sing :D
So I think I will stick with music from the 70s, 80s and 90s

and I agree with LaRue, If these gospel artist were sitting among us we would not be naming names Unless maybe yall liked getting your *** whooped by a big girl :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: changedman on January 22, 2008, 10:00:52 AM
Kim and Twinkie are not ugly, however, because of weight issues they do not have "the look " by the secular standards.

I gave my sincere opinion, regardless if they are here on LGM or not. I think the stars all know what they look like. The topic is about having "a look".

Another is Fred Hammond. The brother is anointed. The brother don't have the look.

The gospel industry is much different than secular. "The look" in the secular is all about the physical. "The look" for gospel artist is all about the anointing. In the gospel arena, the fans aren't looking to see if you can dance good or if you are a certain size. Gospel arena focuses on your ministry and anointing.

Fred, Twinkie, Tye, & Kim most likely wouldn't make it in the secular world. But in the gospel world they are awesome.

Case and point---Rueben Studdard. He didn't do well in the secular world, but his gospel album did very well.

OK!!!  I now have to go outside and catch my breath.  THE SISTERT OF LGM MINISTRIES JUST PUBLICLY SAID THAT FRED HAMMOND DOES NOT HAVE "THE LOOK"!!!!

This calls for a Dr. Pepper for sho'!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: themidiroom on January 22, 2008, 10:04:54 AM
OK!!!  I now have to go outside and catch my breath.  THE SISTERT OF LGM MINISTRIES JUST PUBLICLY SAID THAT FRED HAMMOND DOES NOT HAVE "THE LOOK"!!!!

This calls for a Dr. Pepper for sho'!
I guess it depends on what look you're talking about.   Maybe you should have water instead.    -your trainer    ;D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 10:07:34 AM
I guess it depends on what look you're talking about.   Maybe you should have water instead.    -your trainer    ;D


Or Dr thunder -your financial advisor  ;D
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iR8Hn9cXWP4AaM:http://members.tripod.com/skintigh/drpepper/thunder-2L.jpg)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 10:10:52 AM
This calls for a Dr. Pepper for sho'!


Maybe you should have water instead.    -your trainer    ;D


Or Dr thunder -your financial advisor  ;D
([url]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iR8Hn9cXWP4AaM:http://members.tripod.com/skintigh/drpepper/thunder-2L.jpg[/url])


ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 10:13:59 AM
OK!!!  I now have to go outside and catch my breath.  THE SISTERT OF LGM MINISTRIES JUST PUBLICLY SAID THAT FRED HAMMOND DOES NOT HAVE "THE LOOK"!!!!

This calls for a Dr. Pepper for sho'!

LOL!! -- I was speaking of the world's standards. I'm his number one fan. He's my man on the side---I love all of him! I don't look at people based on size---Shucks when I dated Big Daddy he had a gut and I was small. Big Daddy was and still is gorgeous to me! Fred Hammond is beautiful to me!


As far as the being opinionated----Can we not speak of things honestly without it being called opinionated? I believe the comments here giving examples, only spoke the truth. If those artist would be offended because they are called obese, then, demial they are in. We gave examples, staying within the context of the topic.

I mean really, if this thread is too opinionated, let's stop posting news stories and then talking about those folks---they may be on this board too. Let's not talk about anyone or anything---that'll keep posting down in the lounge.

The opinionated thing is when we go too far. No one is being ridiculed. Statement of facts have been made.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: changedman on January 22, 2008, 10:15:57 AM
Or Dr thunder -your financial advisor  ;D
([url]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iR8Hn9cXWP4AaM:http://members.tripod.com/skintigh/drpepper/thunder-2L.jpg[/url])



Dr. Thunder is the devil!  Tastes like cough syrup.

Does anyone other than me remember when MamaT met Fred Hammond and almost hit the pavement head first!?

So for her to say that her "boy" really doesn't have the "look" means she is being completely honest in her perception, not "messy".  You can appreciate that from her.

If I were in the same room, I WOULD ask Kim Burrell how because I've met her before and knows that she keeps it real (and "snotty" only when it needs to be).

I actually admire the "snotty" side of her.  It's like she says "you call what I do JAZZ, and you say it's not of God...but regardless of how you feel I'm an artist and won't be treated like anything less".  That helped me!!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:17:23 AM
LOL!! -- I was speaking of the world's standards. I'm his number one fan. He's my man on the side---I love all of him! I don't look at people based on size---Shucks when I dated Big Daddy he had a gut and I was small. Big Daddy was and still is gorgeous to me! Fred Hammond is beautiful to me!


As far as the being opinionated----Can we not speak of things honestly without it being called opinionated? I believe the comments here giving examples, only spoke the truth. If those artist would be offended because they are called obese, then, demial they are in. We gave examples, staying within the context of the topic.

I mean really, if this thread is too opinionated, let's stop posting news stories and then talking about those folks---they may be on this board too. Let's not talk about anyone or anything---that'll keep posting down in the lounge.

The opinionated thing is when we go too far. No one is being ridiculed. Statement of facts have been made.



COSIGN!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 10:17:36 AM
Or Dr thunder -your financial advisor  ;D
([url]http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:iR8Hn9cXWP4AaM:http://members.tripod.com/skintigh/drpepper/thunder-2L.jpg[/url])


That gots to be a southern thing. :-\

Cause I ain't neva heard of that. :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 10:18:51 AM
That gots to be a southern thing. :-\

Cause I ain't neva heard of that. :D

I think that's Wal-Mart's brand.  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:19:53 AM
That gots to be a southern thing. :-\

Cause I ain't neva heard of that. :D

You mean to tell me you've NEVER seen the bootleg versions of the popular soft drinks? :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 10:20:07 AM
LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont forget nothin!!
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/LadyDivaT/fred2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: vtguy84 on January 22, 2008, 10:21:09 AM
That gots to be a southern thing. :-\

Cause I ain't neva heard of that. :D

It's a Wal-Mart thing. :)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
I think that's Wal-Mart's brand.  :D


 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: themidiroom on January 22, 2008, 10:21:29 AM
I think that's Wal-Mart's brand.  :D
That would explain why I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 10:21:45 AM
LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont forget nothin!!
([url]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/LadyDivaT/fred2b.jpg[/url])




Awwww Sookie, sookie nah!  :D :D :D   We look good together!! That's my man. Ut-oh, I've gone to another zone.  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Doubles22 on January 22, 2008, 10:23:56 AM
This thread has all the makings of an arena for me to just go buckwild with clownin'.

I mean, this is just waaaaaaayyyy too easy.


I'ma leave it alone though.

*walks away fanning himself with the COGIC MLK Jr. church fan and the funeral home advertisement on the back*
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: fmason3 on January 22, 2008, 10:26:29 AM
To me the cutest gospel artist is Casandra O'neal I might have visit LA one day soon

oh no you don't...I saw her first... :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 10:27:21 AM
You mean to tell me you've NEVER seen the bootleg versions of the popular soft drinks? :D

Oh yeah I've seen the bootleg brands....
I've even taken part in purchasing a few.... :D :D

But I ain't neva heard of Dr. Thunder....
Thats the Super-Bootleg Brand!!
 :D :D

It's a Wal-Mart thing. :)

It must be a Southern Wal-Mart thing....
Cause Dr. Thunder gets no play up here in Philly.
 :D :D :D :D

I'm heading to Atlanta this weekend...
I'm gonna look for some....
And it will be just my luck....
That I'll taste it and...
LOVE IT!!!!!
 :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: vtguy84 on January 22, 2008, 10:27:41 AM


Awwww Sookie, sookie nah!  :D :D :D   We look good together!! That's my man. Ut-oh, I've gone to another zone.  :D

I've got some friends here at Tech who claim that he's their man too.  Are you coming to VT to regulate February 9th? :)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Steely on January 22, 2008, 10:28:28 AM
I believe overall (musical) talent will win outright every time, regardless of the outward appearance. However, the only way we would be able to weigh its (looks) importance is to see the amount of opportunities given to those that look great versus those that are not so pleasing to the eye.

1) How difficult was their journey "in" versus the one who looks appealing. Were there more obstacles for them?

2) How many job opportunities (i.e. Movies, Hosting, Commercials,...) are available to them now versus the other.

We all know the gospel community is larger than record sales. And in order for me to conduct a fair assessment of whether it is important or not is.. to look into every department of the gospel industry.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 10:29:09 AM
I've got some friends here at Tech who claim that he's their man too.  Are you coming to VT to regulate February 9th? :)

I may have to come and give a few people a reality check.  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 10:31:52 AM
This thread has all the makings of an arena for me to just go buckwild with clownin'.

I mean, this is just waaaaaaayyyy too easy.


I'ma leave it alone though.

*walks away fanning himself with the COGIC MLK Jr. church fan and the funeral home advertisement on the back*

You just took me back...
Whoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

I had to drop some food at one of our church mothers home
this past summer.....
It was around 9:30 at night...
And she comes down stairs and she had one of them in her hand...

I'm looking like....
"Man, I ain't seen one of those in years....
Then I'm like....
Mother...What in the world are you doing with a church fan in the crib??
(The second statement was definitely said in my head) :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 10:32:11 AM
LOL!! -- I was speaking of the world's standards. I'm his number one fan. He's my man on the side---I love all of him! I don't look at people based on size---Shucks when I dated Big Daddy he had a gut and I was small. Big Daddy was and still is gorgeous to me! Fred Hammond is beautiful to me!


As far as the being opinionated----Can we not speak of things honestly without it being called opinionated? I believe the comments here giving examples, only spoke the truth. If those artist would be offended because they are called obese, then, demial they are in. We gave examples, staying within the context of the topic.

I mean really, if this thread is too opinionated, let's stop posting news stories and then talking about those folks---they may be on this board too. Let's not talk about anyone or anything---that'll keep posting down in the lounge.

The opinionated thing is when we go too far. No one is being ridiculed. Statement of facts have been made.


I didn't expect you (or Jonathan, for that matter... lol) to agree.  But, that's cool.  I ain't mad, you ain't mad, hopefully God ain't mad, so it's all good.  :)

I do think there's a thin line between what's acceptable and what's not.  And as it relates to news stories and all that, I'll be honest, I'm not always sure where to draw that line.  I just play it by ear and try to check myself when I'm wrong, or trust the saints and the Holy Ghost himself to keep me in check when I don't check myself.  Just to clarify where I'm coming from... I'm going to use VT as an example because I know he won't take it the wrong way.

If he were to record a CD, and we were having this very discussion in this very thread where someone suggested that you have to look good in order to be successful in gospel music.  Then, someone else comes along and say, that's not true, just look at VT.  That's kinda rough to read about yourself, and that's all I'm saying.  :-\  But, again, I'm okay with your dissent.  :)

Ephesians 5:4 (AMP) - Let there be no filthiness (obscenity, indecency) nor foolish and sinful (silly and corrupt) talk, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting or becoming; but instead voice your thankfulness [to God].

Colossians 4:6 - Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.


~I'm done~
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 10:40:31 AM
I guess that's your opinion. Pointless for me to get made because it's your opinion.

I am of the opinion that I didn't say anything contrary to the Word. Reading the scriptures posted, I didn't say anything out of line. I spoke truth and said it in a decent manner---without ridicule.

So I respect your opinion.

The next time we talk about an artist's music, I expect a lot of ya'll to only say that the cd was all good.  :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:41:28 AM
I didn't expect you (or Jonathan, for that matter... lol) to agree.  But, that's cool.  I ain't mad, you ain't mad, hopefully God ain't mad, so it's all good.  :)

I do think there's a thin line between what's acceptable and what's not.  And as it relates to news stories and all that, I'll be honest, I'm not always sure where to draw that line.  I just play it by ear and try to check myself when I'm wrong, or trust the saints and the Holy Ghost himself to keep me in check when I don't check myself.  Just to clarify where I'm coming from... I'm going to use VT as an example because I know he won't take it the wrong way.

If he were to record a CD, and we were having this very discussion in this very thread where someone suggested that you have to look good in order to be successful in gospel music.  Then, someone else comes along and say, that's not true, just look at VT.  That's kinda rough to read about yourself, and that's all I'm saying.  :-\  But, again, I'm okay with your dissent.  :)


~I'm done~



Switch VT's name with anyone in your news stories and we're back at Sister T's point. :-\

-----> ?/? As to why you felt it necessary to share how 'cool' you are with our dissent.



This is me:(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/walking.gif?t=1201020072)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 10:45:57 AM

Switch VT's name with anyone in your news stories and we're back at Sister T's point. :-\

-----> ?/? As to why you felt it necessary to share how 'cool' you are with our dissent.



This is me:([url]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/walking.gif?t=1201020072[/url])


Which is why I said that there is a thin line between what's acceptable and what's not when it comes to discussing news stories, and that I'm not always sure where to draw that line.  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 10:50:09 AM
Which is why I said that there is a thin line between what's acceptable and what's not when it comes to discussing news stories, and that I'm not always sure where to draw that line.  :D


To me it depends on where I'm at or who I'm talking to, That being said, I try not to cross the line here at LGM

as for me and this thread:

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/walking.gif?t=1201020072)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: nessalynn77 on January 22, 2008, 10:56:54 AM
I for one think Jill Scott is beautiful. 
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:58:46 AM
I for one think Jill Scott is beautiful. 

You're understating it. ;) 8)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
To me it depends on where I'm at or who I'm talking to, That being said, I try not to cross the line here at LGM

as for me and this thread:

([url]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p316/sjonathan02/walking.gif?t=1201020072[/url])



As much as I wanna JACK what you've done to my photo, I'mma leave it alone.  :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 11:00:38 AM
I for one think Jill Scott is beautiful. 

She's cute, but she is on the heavy side
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 11:01:43 AM
I for one think Jill Scott is beautiful. 

Me too....and I know I'll be standing oin a limb when I say I love her music and even bought her last 2 cds.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 11:03:09 AM
Me too....and I know I'll be standing on a limb when I say I love her music and even bought her last 2 cds.

Ready will be out there with you. I may be, as well, actually. In terms of buying her CD. Her music is pure FIYAH!! ;)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 11:05:02 AM
Me too....and I know I'll be standing oin a limb when I say I love her music and even bought her last 2 cds.

The Pastor Listen to neo soul :o :o :o :o

I was gonna buy her cd on saturday, but I got chrisette michelle's cd  and musiqs first project instead.
Maybe I'll  get her cd as well
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 11:07:07 AM
The Pastor Listen to neo soul :o :o :o :o

I was gonna buy her cd on saturday, but I got chrisette michelle's cd  and musiqs first project instead.
Maybe I'll  get her cd as well


I only like the one song on Chrisette's CD (the one that's getting all of the airplay).

My wife has Elizabeth Wither's CD. That one's not bad.
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 11:09:29 AM
The Pastor Listen to neo soul :o :o :o :o

I was gonna buy her cd on saturday, but I got chrisette michelle's cd  and musiqs first project instead.
Maybe I'll  get her cd as well

Ummmm, dude... you don't have Musiq's first CD?????  What is wrong with you?  You're not who I thought you were.  :-\ :-[ :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Steely on January 22, 2008, 11:10:12 AM
Ready will be out there with you. I may be, as well, actually. In terms of buying her CD. Her music is pure FIYAH!! ;)

LOVE JILL! - LOVE HER MUSIC!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
LOVE JILL! - LOVE HER MUSIC!!

yOU KNOW HOW pHILLY DO IT!!!
 ;)

Speaking of Philly.....

You can't forget Bilal......
The boy is sick wit it!!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: funkStrat_97 on January 22, 2008, 11:16:24 AM
I don't think that looks are as important in gospel as they are in mainstream forms of music UNLESS you want to achieve some crossover success.  In this case, looks would certainly become much more important.  And the sad fact of the matter is that it literally pays to be attractive.   
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 11:19:34 AM

I only like the one song on Chrisette's CD (the one that's getting all of the airplay).

My wife has Elizabeth Wither's CD. That one's not bad.

Yeah thats the best song on the cd, but I like the first song and a few of the others, Ima check out Elizabeth Wither

Ummmm, dude... you don't have Musiq's first CD?????  What is wrong with you?  You're not who I thought you were.  :-\ :-[ :D

I'm know i was late, but glad I did get it he got some mellow cuts on there. and it took me back hearin "girl next door" and "love" and "just friends"

yOU KNOW HOW pHILLY DO IT!!!
 ;)

Speaking of Philly.....

You can't forget Bilal......
The boy is sick wit it!!!

I remember his song "fast life". he was speakin the truth

I might just have to move to philly, cuz yall got the best music, hands down
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: jlewis on January 22, 2008, 11:21:29 AM
I for one think Jill Scott is beautiful. 

Don't get it twisted, Jill Scott IS fine.   And then when she starts talking to a brother........ 

MUST........ STAY..........  SPIRITUAL.......!!!!!


jlewis
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
Don't get it twisted, Jill Scott IS fine.   And then when she starts talking to a brother........ 

MUST........ STAY..........  SPIRITUAL.......!!!!!


jlewis

Yep. *nodding head*  Yassuh!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 11:23:02 AM
And then when she starts talking to a brother........ 


jlewis

Makes you wanna take a long walk around the park after dark?  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 11:23:11 AM
Yeah thats the best song on the cd, but I like the first song and a few of the others, Ima check out Elizabeth Wither

I'm know i was late, but glad I did get it he got some mellow cuts on there. and it took me back hearin "girl next door" and "love" and "just friends"

I remember his song "fast life". he was speakin the truth

I might just have to move to philly, cuz yall got the best music, hands down

Thank you fam....
Finally someone who recognizes the skillz.... :D :D

I have Bilal's new cd...that never came out about two years ago.... :-\ :D

It is straight up FIYAH!!!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: LaylaMonroe on January 22, 2008, 11:24:01 AM
In addition to being drop-dead gorgeous, Jill is also extremely intelligent, talented (as we know) and has SUCH a sweet spirit.

She's the total package.  Jill is the stuff!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 11:24:39 AM
Don't get it twisted, Jill Scott IS fine.   And then when she starts talking to a brother........ 

MUST........ STAY..........  SPIRITUAL.......!!!!!


jlewis


She's alright, but mainstream america doesnet think so. When She was on the show "Girlfriends" She was Typecasted(for lack of a better word) as a poor and unsexy woman taking the bus
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: phatstrings on January 22, 2008, 11:25:23 AM
Geeezz... I only went away to pee and this thread has gone up to four pages!
  Methinks someone should start the "How many LGM members are unemployed?" thread  :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
Don't get it twisted, Jill Scott IS fine.   And then when she starts talking to a brother........ 

MUST........ STAY..........  SPIRITUAL.......!!!!!


jlewis

Yep. *nodding head*  Yassuh!!

Watch it now.....
*looks around for wife* 
*sees coast is clear*

Ya'll talking about my lady here.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 11:27:27 AM
Watch it now.....
*looks around for wife* 
*sees coast is clear*

Ya'll talking about my lady here.... :D :D :D

We may have to gets ta rumblin', suh!  >:(  As long as our wives aren't around. :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: under13 on January 22, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
Thank you fam....
Finally someone who recognizes the skillz.... :D :D

I have Bilal's new cd...that never came out about two years ago.... :-\ :D

It is straight up FIYAH!!!

hook a brother up lol jlaws318@gmail.com

Yeah I cant front on philly, yall gave us eve, the roots, musiq and countless others

Geeezz... I only went away to pee and this thread has gone up to four pages!
  Methinks someone should start the "How many LGM members are unemployed?" thread  :D

I'm 'bout to be unemployed if I dont do this data entry. I'm suposed to be doin, instead of being on lgm :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: jlewis on January 22, 2008, 11:28:00 AM

She's alright, but mainstream america doesnet think so. When She was on the show "Girlfriends" She was Typecasted(for lack of a better word) as a poor and unsexy woman taking the bus


In Jungle Fever Halle berry was cast as a crackhead,   and we all know she is fine.   

As for Jill, she absolutely knows how to accentuate her assets.  And to top that off her mind is not nothing to be played with.  Baby Girl, I still love ya, but I gots to speak the truth.

jlewis
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 11:32:14 AM
We may have to gets ta rumblin', suh!  >:(  As long as our wives aren't around. :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Word son....

Wives:
What were ya'll fighting about??
Sjon and Redy:
Uhhh, Ummm...
He said Tony Romo was a bum!!!
*Sjon gives Redy the eye*
Uhh Yeeaahhh....
Aaannddd He said Donovan McNabb was all washed up!!!
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 11:33:36 AM
hook a brother up lol jlaws318@gmail.com

Yeah I cant front on philly, yall gave us eve, the roots, musiq and countless others

No prob fam....
I got you. ;)
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: SisterT on January 22, 2008, 11:35:04 AM
Geeezz... I only went away to pee and this thread has gone up to four pages!
  Methinks someone should start the "How many LGM members are unemployed?" thread  :D

DONE!
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: changedman on January 22, 2008, 11:43:33 AM
I guess that's your opinion. Pointless for me to get made because it's your opinion.

I am of the opinion that I didn't say anything contrary to the Word. Reading the scriptures posted, I didn't say anything out of line. I spoke truth and said it in a decent manner---without ridicule.

So I respect your opinion.

The next time we talk about an artist's music, I expect a lot of ya'll to only say that the cd was all good.  :D :D

Another ZONE?  Nah...try another REALM!!!  LOL!

Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: sjonathan02 on January 22, 2008, 11:46:35 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Word son....

Wives:
What were ya'll fighting about??
Sjon and Redy:
Uhhh, Ummm...
He said Tony Romo was a bum!!!
*Sjon gives Redy the eye*
Uhh Yeeaahhh....
Aaannddd He said Donovan McNabb was all washed up!!!
 :D :D :D


PPPWWWWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D :D :D


*wives look at one another*

Sjon's wife:We ain't got nuthin' but over-grown children; I swear!!

Redy's wife:C'mon girl, let's go shoppin'. 

Sjon's wife: I'm witcha, sister girlfriend!!


 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Good looks...how important are they to a (gospel) music career?
Post by: Redy2bUsed on January 22, 2008, 12:00:23 PM

PPPWWWWAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D :D :D


*wives look at one another*

Sjon's wife:We ain't got nuthin' but over-grown children; I swear!!

Redy's wife:C'mon girl, let's go shoppin'. 

Sjon's wife: I'm witcha, sister girlfriend!!


 :D :D :D :D

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
That is way too realistic..

I can see it playing out that way. :D :D