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Title: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: bullet1 on April 29, 2008, 10:21:22 AM
I am a newbie and I have purchased a few DVD's by Jamal Hartwell.  I think hands down he is ridiculous.  The way he puts chords together and just his style is no joke.  Some of the tones he plays is sick.  Is he considered one of the best pianist out their??  If not who is better??  Links please???
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 29, 2008, 10:30:38 AM
I dunno about best.  :-\

I got one of his DVDs and frankly i don't like his style of teaching. He goes through almost no theory and just shows you the chord fingerings. That really does not help you play in other keys.  I will admit that he is a great player, simply fantastic at the keys.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: under13 on April 29, 2008, 10:34:11 AM
I have his urban worship extreme, But I havent sat down and learned it. I'ma try to get into, cuz that neo soul sound is where its at. Is he the best? I wouldnt say so. I have heard guys who have played just as well as him, although I havent heard everything that these guys includin JH are capable of
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: csedwards2 on April 29, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
I dunno about best.  :-\

I got one of his DVDs and frankly i don't like his style of teaching. He goes through almost no theory and just shows you the chord fingerings. That really does not help you play in other keys.  I will admit that he is a great player, simply fantastic at the keys.
you cant go through what you dont know.

I would say he is the choice for pianists who dont know theory or care about terminology, but want to understand what they play, and how to add other cool sounds that you have to learn by just hearing it and seeing it. And he'll teach you some theory in the process. But if you're looking for a whole bunch of explanation of why it works or sounds good, you'd have to search elsewhere.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: under13 on April 29, 2008, 02:12:06 PM
you cant go through what you dont know.

I would say he is the choice for pianists who dont know theory or care about terminology, but want to understand what they play, and how to add other cool sounds that you have to learn by just hearing it and seeing it. And he'll teach you some theory in the process. But if you're looking for a whole bunch of explanation of why it works or sounds good, you'd have to search elsewhere.

I guess thats why its an advanced DVD
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 29, 2008, 02:27:26 PM
I guess thats why its an advanced DVD

Exactly. The DVD should be targeted at intermediate to advanced players. Beginners would only get confused or, at best, they would cram everything he showed them and not understand what they were doing.

It doesn't take away from him being a great player.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Rjthakid on April 29, 2008, 02:29:39 PM
Jamal is very good. 
Jamal is very smooth, and he's excellent at improvisation.

One of the Best?  No.


You asked for examples of who's better:

Derick Jackson, PJ Morgan, John Peters, David Jackson, Mike Bereal, Kevin Bond, Eddie Brown, and Travis Sayles.

You also asked for links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Bxda2Bt_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS0Zoh4jul4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4OPY_tSsdY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vE1rD5NDJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ea0tzGGxw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SH4qU28y-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYiY-i5u1Uw

I left out the Organ Clips, but all the guys I listed above with the exception of Kevin Bond are GREAT Organists also.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: GospelMusicians on April 29, 2008, 09:03:14 PM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: under13 on April 29, 2008, 09:15:27 PM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

Welcome to LGM, I hope you stick around a while. Are you ever coming out with an organ DVD? I was feelin that youtube clip w/ you playing behind that preacher.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: bullet1 on April 29, 2008, 09:23:16 PM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

I personally am a big fan I to me you are one of the best.  I have all your DVD's and at first I was just learning licks and chords.  Now that I know a little theory I can apply your chords and licks. 

Example your circle of fifths you taught on  Urban Worship Contemporary and the substitutes you taught on extreme are excellent chords you can use for a lot of songs in Db. 

There is theory there if you know some theory.  You just have to know how  to apply it.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: csedwards2 on April 29, 2008, 09:40:44 PM

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

We can tell. Its something when someone who is teaching the class, comes back with new stuff, reinventing themselves, and polishing off the rough edges. Alot of seasoned pros, dont think they need to practice, much less learn something new. I bought the entire Christmas bundle you offered,; I think I started with the Tritone Dvd (which is excellent btw. I got the main keyboardist at my church making those ugly faces during service cause he likes what Im playing. A really on time product! Nobody has thought of focusing a few hours teaching specifically on the tritone, and it was really helpful.). Later on I looked at the original contemporary worship dvd, which for me, was hard to get with because of vocab and such. (I will still study it though) In any case, it showed that you've moved WAY past were you were.


So tell us, since we have your attention:

How do you learn your best stuff?  I mean like when you're really learning it, for maximum understanding. How does a pro, keep up the serious learning, even the theory stuff?
-Through shedding alone tons of hours
-Shedding with others and exchanging stuff
-Listening to songs and other challenging stuff (in gospel, or in other genres)
-Working with a  mentor/teacher

Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: seemunny on April 29, 2008, 11:34:20 PM
Man, i got Jamal's Urban Xtreme, and i found it very helpful and very necessary for me to have!

Jamal beautifully demonstrates to you licks and progressions that people really want to be aware of and to have in their arsenal. And just to watch him flow, man that just opens your eyes up to all the possibilities!

He knows something; he's demonstrating it; and he's showing you note for note what he did, with Some theory added.

And he comes off as if he really wants you to get it. And i appreciate that, and i'm glad i purchased it.  That video was a blessing, no doubt. 8)
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: ucja2008 on April 30, 2008, 05:30:29 AM
Jamal is not in the competition business!


But HE is "ONE of The Best"


Some of you havent heard JAMAL OFF THE DVDs. (Watch him in other videos and LIVE)
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 30, 2008, 06:31:51 AM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

Dude! Welcome to LGM, man. Hope you can hang out, when you're not puttin' out your DVDs.  ;) When you put that number system DVD out there, I'll be sure to check it out.

Again, welcome.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Rjthakid on April 30, 2008, 07:15:05 AM
Jamal, I have some of your DVD's (don't we all?).

Welcome to the board bruh.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 30, 2008, 08:40:51 AM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

Welcome!

I hope you hang around and stop by from time to time when you are not too busy. Tell Jermaine Griggs to stop by here also.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on April 30, 2008, 08:58:30 AM
enuff with the welcomes, is he gonna bring chiccen?
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: musallio on April 30, 2008, 08:59:32 AM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

Welcome to LGM..


I should get your DVDs!!!

1stly, I'm a beginner, but because I have focussed alot on my theory, I only struggle in few places to figure out what a guy would be doing in a dvd where there is no explaining (SO GUYS, IF YOU WANT TO GET MAX BENEFITS FROM DVDS U PURCHASE, U SHOULD DEDICATE SOME EFFORT INTO KNOWING YOUR THEORY--COME-ON, IT COMES FOR FREE HERE, SO NO EXCUSES PLEASE!!!!) ;D

ALRIGHT, I know this dude plays really well, but  don't know if he is rated as one ogf the best, & I find his so called "Intermediate- advanced" GK 600 SERIES quite easy to understand, even though I'm a beginner..

& because of this lil theory I have, I think I will benefit more from it then some1 who is a crazy cat but knows lil theory bcos they might only be able to play the stuff in the key that Jonathan Powell  teaches in (Ab) & maybe, maybe, a few other keys..but with theory I can AUTOMATICALLY do it in all the keys without trial & error..

The guy does not talk of big stuff & he really tries to make the theory non-intimidating (like GospelMusicians said!)

great thread guys.

Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 30, 2008, 09:27:07 AM
enuff with the welcomes, is he gonna bring chiccen?

BWAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!! Well spoken man. Where the chiccen at yo?
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: under13 on April 30, 2008, 09:28:31 AM
enuff with the welcomes, is he gonna bring chiccen?

Not again. If somebody starts posting pictures of chicken.......
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on April 30, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
chiccen, cobbler,sumthin....
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: SisterT on April 30, 2008, 09:53:17 AM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!


Hey Jamal! How have you been? Good hearing from you.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: bullet1 on April 30, 2008, 10:01:13 AM
I think he is one of the best because Jamal totally doesn't focus on showing off either.  He clearly states in his frist DVD it's about flow and where the service is.  To many musicians try to impress eachother with crazy licks and movements.  but you have apeople that is hungry for God and need a breakthrough or a ouch and the musician is worried about impressing people.  Music is one of the most vital parts of a service and with some of his chords and what he stresses on his first DVD you can learn alot. 

Again if you know theory to a certain degree his DVD's will teach you how to build on some of the chords and movements and things you can do besides the normal 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 movements and chords. 

The boy is phat and nit's because of him I really buckled down and strated to learn how to play.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: under13 on April 30, 2008, 10:03:48 AM
I think he is one of the best because Jamal totally doesn't focus on showing off either.  He clearly states in his frist DVD it's about flow and where the service is.  To many musicians try to impress eachother with crazy licks and movements.  but you have apeople that is hungry for God and need a breakthrough or a ouch and the musician is worried about impressing people.  Music is one of the most vital parts of a service and with some of his chords and what he stresses on his first DVD you can learn alot. 

True. When it comes to gospel, Is not about being the best. Its about ministry.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 30, 2008, 10:11:23 AM

Hey Jamal! How have you been? Good hearing from you.

Hey everyone, lets go camp out at SisterT's house. She seems to know who Jamal is. I got extra sleeping bags if anyone wants one.
Title: I'm sticking around!
Post by: GospelMusicians on April 30, 2008, 12:18:00 PM
I will definitely be sticking around! I can't promise that I can reply to every post, because I'm so busy. Just to give you a heads-up to what I'm doing.

I just finished a DVD for beginners teaching the Number system in the key of C and how to call out the the number system in every key.

I will answer some of the questions below:
How do you learn your best stuff?  I mean like when you're really learning it, for maximum understanding. How does a pro, keep up the serious learning, even the theory stuff?
-Through shedding alone tons of hours
-Shedding with others and exchanging stuff
-Listening to songs and other challenging stuff (in gospel, or in other genres)
-Working with a  mentor/teacher


This is how I learn my best stuff. Much of it comes from sitting down and the Holy Spirit just putting my hands down on a chord that I've always heard in my head. No lie...not trying to be super spiritual, but my signature lies in shedding with the Holy Spirit.

I take phat stuff I hear on GospelMusicians.com videos, songs and I don't just learn what they are doing. I FEEL and study what they are doing, so that I can take it and make it my own.

Step 1: Learn it EXACTLY AS YOU HEAR IT!
Step 2. Be able to play it in all keys!
Step 3: Try to apply what you've learned in substitutions. EVERY AND I MEAN EVERYTHING is a substitution for something. So the secret is....If you can find the substitution  for WHY they played it that way...then you can remember other songs with that particular progression, or substitution or passing chord and apply it.......NOW IT BECOMES ALL YOURS!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: sjonathan02 on April 30, 2008, 12:36:24 PM
That last line or two, JH, that's what we could use in your DVDs; the why behind the what.  ;)

Why play such and such when I'm going to such and such chord. That kind of thing.

Again, dude, welcome.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: beantownborn on April 30, 2008, 02:55:33 PM
Welcome, Jamal! Good to have you, bruh. Thanks for being a blessing and be sure to stick around when you can.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: SisterT on April 30, 2008, 03:04:16 PM
Hey everyone, lets go camp out at SisterT's house. She seems to know who Jamal is. I got extra sleeping bags if anyone wants one.

{Sigh} LOL!!  :D


Guess you didn't know our sites had been linked up to one another for a couple of years. We've been working together in this thing called ministry...just as we have with LGM.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 30, 2008, 03:35:19 PM
{Sigh} LOL!!  :D


Guess you didn't know our sites had been linked up to one another for a couple of years. We've been working together in this thing called ministry...just as we have with LGM.  ;)

Then i am definitely coming to camp out at your house. YAY!!!!!! :D :D :D

Actually if i met Jamal i might be star-struck.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on April 30, 2008, 04:06:28 PM
dude still aint brought no food.....no chiccen, biskits, not even a bag of Utz Chips......
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Fenix on April 30, 2008, 04:10:53 PM
dude still aint brought no food.....no chiccen, biskits, not even a bag of Utz Chips......

Thats why we are all heading over to SisterT's house. Of course you're not invited. Sorry.  :-\ :)
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: musallio on May 01, 2008, 04:38:41 AM
Thats why we are all heading over to SisterT's house. Of course you're not invited. Sorry.  :-\ :)


Oops :P :-\

Fenbox, I hope U reserve me the warmest sleeping bag coz I can't go outside with less than 1 jersey these days!!
Title: Re: I'm sticking around!
Post by: Rjthakid on May 01, 2008, 10:36:38 AM
I will definitely be sticking around! I can't promise that I can reply to every post, because I'm so busy. Just to give you a heads-up to what I'm doing.

I just finished a DVD for beginners teaching the Number system in the key of C and how to call out the the number system in every key.

I will answer some of the questions below:
How do you learn your best stuff?  I mean like when you're really learning it, for maximum understanding. How does a pro, keep up the serious learning, even the theory stuff?
-Through shedding alone tons of hours
-Shedding with others and exchanging stuff
-Listening to songs and other challenging stuff (in gospel, or in other genres)
-Working with a  mentor/teacher


This is how I learn my best stuff. Much of it comes from sitting down and the Holy Spirit just putting my hands down on a chord that I've always heard in my head. No lie...not trying to be super spiritual, but my signature lies in shedding with the Holy Spirit.

I take phat stuff I hear on GospelMusicians.com videos, songs and I don't just learn what they are doing. I FEEL and study what they are doing, so that I can take it and make it my own.

Step 1: Learn it EXACTLY AS YOU HEAR IT!
Step 2. Be able to play it in all keys!
Step 3: Try to apply what you've learned in substitutions. EVERY AND I MEAN EVERYTHING is a substitution for something. So the secret is....If you can find the substitution  for WHY they played it that way...then you can remember other songs with that particular progression, or substitution or passing chord and apply it.......NOW IT BECOMES ALL YOURS!


Yall are dragging your feet, so I'll be the first to make this request:

Jamal, can you give us a nice progression that we should learn in all Keys?

Not something basic, but a progression with substitutions.

Thanks man.

On another note, for you to come out and admit that you're not one of the best took a lot of character.  There are some pros who would (and have) come on LGM to take shots at people who say they aren't the best.

Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: nessalynn77 on May 01, 2008, 11:06:03 AM
Jamal!!!! I been missin' you, I haven't been to your site in a while. This numbers DVD sounds like the one for me, where can I purchase it?

You are the man, dude!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: bullet1 on May 01, 2008, 08:59:28 PM
That is why he is one of the best.  His humility.  Can't wait to buy that numbers DVD.  Also the organist in my church took lessons from Jamal.  I saw him in one of his DVD's online.  I think he is cousins to the guy Byron "talk Box" and the kid is ridiculous.  I mean OFF THE CHAIN. 
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Mysteryman on May 01, 2008, 09:55:54 PM
Welcome Jamal! And good food. ;D
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: normandm85 on May 02, 2008, 09:35:05 AM
I wouldn't consider me one of the best. I would say that I have a particular style that some tend to like and I have a particular teaching style that some like and some don't. I can think of a ton of guys who are way better than me. But remember, it's not all about being BETTER....Remember every person has something to give. It's just that I've been playing a while and a few people love my style and some could care less about it. If your ears love my style then praise God :-D.

One thing about theory, is that I have grown a lot. In the beginning I had no theory and now, I am actually coming out with a DVD that teaches the number system. So you can see that I, Jamal Hartwell, too am learning along with everyone else. I don't have all the chords and licks. I'm learning just like everyone else.

Please note that it is very difficult to do a DVD when 80% of the people who purchase, don't now theory at all. So the 20% are bored and want theory, whereas if I was all theory, then the 80% are lost. So it's hard to please both. What I say is this: If you know theory, then use it and apply patterns to what I am saying. And...remember on the Urban Worship Xtreme, where my theory was lacking, I added sheet music, and the names of the chords on the screen.

Hope this helps!

Nice word. But I thought this wasn't a forum to compare/contrast who's better  ?/? ?/?. I think it's all about ministry. We are all on different levels and we all have different styles. Jamal is blessed with his style and it has helped others grow in their ministry, like me. But he's a beast though!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: markk on May 07, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
Im not here to put anyone down because im just now learning how to play but i look at different peoples videos.  I think that Jamal has his on style that is off the chain but im not able to understand it right now but if i keep going i would love to play sounds like that. So keep up the work Jamal!!!!!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Metronome on May 07, 2008, 05:46:42 PM
Jamal Hartwell is sweet................i kinda get something different out of his dvd's.  Me and one of my buddies watched Urban Worship Xtreme.  He takes what the average intermediate keyboard player knows and re-applies it totally different.  I knew a lot of the stuff that he did, but just seeing him do it made me re-think my approach.  For example, i'm sure a lot of cats on here know what a major 7th chord is.............but his approach to the chord was crazy (he called it major 7th on steroids or somethin like that)
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: mrlow4god on July 31, 2014, 05:48:16 AM
Hi, everyone, this is my first post here as a 61 year old beginner Gospel organist.  Found some of Jamal's videos on Youtube and this is what I'd like to say:

"You can't be the best. There is no 'best.' You can only be a good one." - Muddy Waters

That said, Jamal's teaching style works like crazy for me. And I love his playing.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: musiqisme26 on August 03, 2014, 07:23:07 AM
i wish i saw this post when it started................. :-X
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: norquer on August 04, 2014, 08:09:02 PM
Jamal is very good. 
Jamal is very smooth, and he's excellent at improvisation.

One of the Best?  No.


You asked for examples of who's better:

Derick Jackson, PJ Morgan, John Peters, David Jackson, Mike Bereal, Kevin Bond, Eddie Brown, and Travis Sayles.

In my own humble opinion, I wouldn't say the guys you mentioned are better than Jamal Hartwell. You have to understand that every musician has "his style" and so far, Jamal Hartwell is the sickest Neo Soul keyboardist I know... When u talk about "talk music" or "shout" or "praise" etc he might not deliver like the Mike Bereal, Jason White, John Peters & Kelvin bond's of this world, but Neo Soul?! He's a Master!!!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: MarcaleDumas on August 06, 2014, 03:49:25 PM
He is very good but I just bought some DVDs from this guy named Jay Toles from www.gospelfingers.net (http://www.gospelfingers.net)
I bought a dvd called Progressive movements... Ive bought A ton, I mean a toooooooooooooooonnn of DVDs, so I can say with a good opinion whats good and bad.. and by far his teaching is the best..
I hate buying DVDs that get me lost within the 1st 5 min, His DVD was great start to finish...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSS5jVXzrys&list=UUOPYxto4OH9t0ovjvYecITA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSS5jVXzrys&list=UUOPYxto4OH9t0ovjvYecITA)

Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: ltljake on August 08, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
 I think you guys should really think about what Jamal is doing. His teaching is birthing musicians and that strengthens the kingdom.  For generations after he's gone what he's done will continue to have an impact. None of the guys in the Youtube videos above has done more than what Jamal has for Gospel musicians.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: iluvjazz7 on August 08, 2014, 04:33:50 PM
I am impress with his get it done attitude and willingness to further the gospel music arena for unlearned musicians and others who like to drop in and is able analyze and tell him what is doing. He just needs to learn the correct names of his chords. I watched him in his early days but notice he would give in-accurate names of chords. It seemed like his weakest names.  Also keeping chord formula's in context would help folks to understand the chord better. Ex. When spelling an Ab chord, you spell it Ab, C, Eb..... Not Ab, C, D#.  major chord Formula is 1,3,5 not 1,3, #4. I could go on but.... I admire his efforts. Not saying he can't play. I'm saying stop taking short cuts and learn at least music fundamentals and chord formulas. Theory will help and has been misconstrued by those who call fundamentals theory. Theory is not hard, especially after you've learned your fundamentals.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: iluvjazz7 on August 08, 2014, 04:36:12 PM
am impress with his get it done attitude and willingness to further the gospel music arena for unlearned musicians and others who like to drop in and is able to analyze and tell him what he is doing. He just needs to learn the correct names of his chords. I watched him in his early days but notice he would give in-accurate names of chords. It seemed like his weakest area.  Also keeping chord formula's in context would help folks to understand the chord better. Ex. When spelling an Ab chord, you spell it Ab, C, Eb..... Not Ab, C, D#.  major chord Formula is 1,3,5 not 1,3, #4. I could go on but.... I admire his efforts. Not saying he can't play. I'm saying stop taking short cuts and learn at least music fundamentals and chord formulas. Theory will help and has been misconstrued by those who call fundamentals theory. Theory is not hard, especially after you've learned your fundamentals.
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: jonesl78 on August 12, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
I think you guys should really think about what Jamal is doing. His teaching is birthing musicians and that strengthens the kingdom.  For generations after he's gone what he's done will continue to have an impact. None of the guys in the Youtube videos above has done more than what Jamal has for Gospel musicians.

Amen!!
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: Incognito21 on August 24, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
I think that he's very good and he does an incredible job with his software I brought his play by ear dvd. But I'd recommend Jermaine Griggs for "real beginners" like myself who knows very little of music since Jermaine Break it down from the very beginning and the theory is well explained that it is not annoying to learn (well atleast for  101 and 102  dvds) while Jamal stuff assume that you already now all  your scales, inversions and how to hear the baseline.  If you already know everything I said, go for it with Jamal; if not start with Jermaine.

But that's just my two cent
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: musiqisme26 on September 22, 2014, 03:18:24 PM
all he is birthing is bunch of musicians like himself that can't function on their own and actually handicaps those who follow his methods
Title: Re: Is Jamal Hartwell one of the best??
Post by: MemphisKeys on October 24, 2014, 08:14:51 PM
Jamal Hartwell in my Opinion is consider  "One of the Best". I've learned alot from Jamal and still learning on my own I've learned Theory and have a Good Understanding but Unless you practice Scales and Chord Progression on your own then you will never learn or know whats going on in a Song. Every one has they're own style you have to develop your own and just learn from others