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Title: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Keys4Christ on June 09, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
Is there a simple progression similar to knowing the 1-4-5 in songs like...."What a Mighty God We Serve," "Victory is Mine," etc? Or are those songs mainly bass driven where I can just use simple and clean chords?
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 11:03:40 AM
Is there a simple progression similar to knowing the 1-4-5 in songs like...."What a Mighty God We Serve," "Victory is Mine," etc? Or are those songs mainly bass driven where I can just use simple and clean chords?

Well they ARE bass driven. Although you can use your LH to play bass runs while your right hand plays the chords.

How you do that, i have no clue. I am trying to do it myself.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Keys4Christ on June 09, 2008, 12:02:32 PM
would someone suggest to learn the bass runs on the left hand for these type of songs?
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 12:40:15 PM
would someone suggest to learn the bass runs on the left hand for these type of songs?

Well if you have a bassist in church, why bother? if you don't then i do suggest you learn the bass runs in the LH.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 09, 2008, 01:01:56 PM
would someone suggest to learn the bass runs on the left hand for these type of songs?

yes, because one day, you'll be without a bassist.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: under13 on June 09, 2008, 01:04:07 PM
yes, because one day, you'll be without a bassist.

I dread that day
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 01:09:18 PM
I dread that day

Cosign. :(
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 09, 2008, 01:10:02 PM
I dread that day

Cosign. :(

It ain't. that. deep.  ::)

Livin' with that right now. No biggie.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
It ain't. that. deep.  ::)

Livin' with that right now. No biggie.

I take that back. It happened to me last week Friday. I was nearly crying on the keys. My P&W leader said i looked like the world had come crashing down on me.  :D

The problem is that the way we have arranged our songs, the bass is such an intricate part that if it is not there you can definitely tell that something is missing.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 09, 2008, 01:21:24 PM
I take that back. It happened to me last week Friday. I was nearly crying on the keys. My P&W leader said i looked like the world had come crashing down on me.  :D

The problem is that the way we have arranged our songs, the bass is such an intricate part that if it is not there you can definitely tell that something is missing.

YOU can. The musically deficient within the congregation can't.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 01:28:19 PM
YOU can. The musically deficient within the congregation can't.  ;) 8)

 :D :D :D :D :D

That is true. I have also started doing the sliding my hands over the keys when i get stuck thing. They look at me like  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o SICK!!!!!!!

On a side note, a lot of the congregation have no idea who the instrumentalists are. In fact some girl told me she just (in paraphrase) "...hears some sounds coming out from behind the choir." 
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 09, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
:D :D :D :D :D

That is true. I have also started doing the sliding my hands over the keys when i get stuck thing. They look at me like  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o SICK!!!!!!!

On a side note, a lot of the congregation have no idea who the instrumentalists are. In fact some girl told me she just (in paraphrase) "...hears some sounds coming out from behind the choir." 

I LOVE how you're proving my point.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: T-Block on June 09, 2008, 03:49:39 PM
Is there a simple progression similar to knowing the 1-4-5 in songs like...."What a Mighty God We Serve," "Victory is Mine," etc? Or are those songs mainly bass driven where I can just use simple and clean chords?

There are a few simple ones:  2-5-1, 7-3-6, 3-6-2, 6-2-5-1, 3-6-2-5-1, 5-1-4, 1-4

And yes, those songs are mostly bass driven with simple chords and various runs to accompany it.  Heck, if u have at least a bass player or can run the bass line, u can get by with just that and the song will be banging.  Trust me, I've done it before, LOL.

yes, because one day, you'll be without a bassist.

Please believe it!!!  IMO, the first thing u should do is learn to play w/out a bass player.  Then, learn to play w/ a bass player, that way u ready for either situation.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: SoundofJoy on June 09, 2008, 04:43:03 PM
I've played without a bass player for entire life......what have I been missing?
It's a concept I teach on my course, I have a DVD lesson covering " Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus and Victory Is Mine" . I teach the left hand bass right hand chord technique.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: Fenix on June 09, 2008, 04:49:46 PM
I've played without a bass player for entire life......what have I been missing?
It's a concept I teach on my course, I have a DVD lesson covering " Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus and Victory Is Mine" . I teach the left hand bass right hand chord technique.

Is it ready? You said you were going to make it.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: SoundofJoy on June 09, 2008, 06:35:56 PM
I've had this one for 3 years now  ;D
I'm editing "Faithful Is Our God" and I have "Greatful" to record next.
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: sjonathan02 on June 09, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
I've had this one for 3 years now  ;D
I'm editing "Faithful Is Our God" and I have "Greatful" to record next.

Two suggestions, if I may SOJ:

a. go slower. Sometimes, you get so excited that you go at YOUR rate of expertise leaving us novices in the dust.

b. stick to the song. This goes along with 'a'. You'll show a progression or the L.H. / R.H. then take off runnin'.  :D :D


Thanks for hearing me out.  :)
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: berbie on June 09, 2008, 09:27:03 PM
T-Block has some excellent bass runs in his lessons somewhere in prior posts.  I play them often.  It was so long ago I have no idea where.  Try a search for bass runs.  I think one run is Eb, back down to G, Ab A, Bb, C, Db, or(C#) D, Eb. Victory is Mine and other songs can be played over that run.  (partially)
Eb, D, Eb,E,F, G Ab, A, Bb twice F twice Bb B, C, back Gb
 Over the line, Victory today is mine. Then, F, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C, Gb twice. I told satan, get thee behind.   G, Ab, A, Bb, Eb.  Victory today is mine.       

A 1, 3, 5, 7-8 played rhythmically is a good simple bass run.  Or a I, 8, 7, 8. 
Actually, most of the time I don't know what I am really playing with my left hand.  I will sometimes consciously make note so that I don't repeat too much. Hope that helps

berbie
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: T-Block on June 10, 2008, 09:55:31 AM
T-Block has some excellent bass runs in his lessons somewhere in prior posts.


U must be talking bout dis link right here (which I should have posted ealiear):  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,32178.0.html
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: spider5 on June 10, 2008, 10:18:43 AM
Guys,

      Being from the country, the only two instruments that are played in just ablut every church is the pian/keyboard and the drums. I play the keyboard and when I play I always incorporate the bass. Many people say that they like my style and that it sounds like a bass guitar is there, but it is me. I also play with a church, in which all I do is play the bass parts, while the music leader chords with both hands. With congreagational songs, the bass is what drives a great deal of those songs, and to be honest those bass lines are simple. I am a bass man myself anyway, and without it I can tell a big difference, except in songs where not a lot of bass is needed, like in Total Praise, or Center of My Joy. Everybody be Blessed, and always pray before you play.   
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: berbie on June 10, 2008, 02:04:24 PM
Yea, that is it, T.  I have used some of those runs quite a bit.  It was a real good post.  Thanks again

berbie
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: ssbrew7 on July 18, 2008, 09:28:41 PM
Ive learned to practice your scales forward backwards and opposite ends at the same time, that will make it so much easier learning to do many things at once while your playin a song with out a bass player...I do it alot of the time......its easy,
Title: Re: Simple Progressions for Fast Church Beat Songs....
Post by: musallio on July 19, 2008, 06:55:07 PM
It's great when there is a bass player..you can hear the thud every 2nd..but eventually it all seems normal.

The same applies when you are alone on the keys: if you've played with a bassist, it might seem weak at 1st..but after a few minutes, everything normalizes...
The bass on the keyboard is deep enough if you know how to select your sounds.

Yes bass runs are a good tool to add to your playing.. But right now I'm only able to do bass walks effectively.
I know I'll sound ultra cool once I can do bass uns effectively..& I don't mind whether there is a bassist or not--but I know right now I prefer not to have 1/ it depends on who's on the bass. ;D