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Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« on: September 15, 2006, 12:01:42 AM »
Greetings in the precious name of our Lord Jesus Christ,

     As a member of LGM, I'm aware of the religious diversity that is encompassed throughout this site, but I must as a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ express something of importance.  This stems from that "tongue" thread. Time to stop the foolishness.

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This will probably offend MANY and for it I do
not apologize, even if it cost me this thread.

If theres one thing that I know, it is that God is absolute. He being absolute, makes his word (the truth) absolute. We as man, being the fallable humans we are, will misinterpret these truths and even go as far as to change them to suite us. Yet, that which God has established remains true, just and INFALLABLE.  Yeah, God is love and he loves his creation with a everlasting love, but hes also sovereign and eventually passes judgement to those who fail to adhere to his truths.

With that being said, I will say this, "Someone's living a lie and somebody's going to hell".  What do I mean?  Everybody here believes in Christ and everyone here considers themselves "Christians", but we foolishly have over 1300 denominations in the world of Christiandom because everybody wanna believe they have "the truth". People, listen, theres only one truth! The WORD!

Yes, the bible contains areas of symbolism and then there are passages that can just be taken for face value (literal).  Understanding the Hermenutics of the bible may be tricky to some, but through prayer and reading in the Holy Ghost grants one true spiritual insight.  Simply, there are things that we've been taught without doing any personal research, and things that we accept cause it "sounds" good, but isn't alway lined up with God's word.

Why am I saying all this?  Cause we've somehow begun to live in a delusional world of believing that everybody gonna make it and that just ain't true.  The bible clearly tell me what its going to take to make the rapture.  Paul, one of the greatest of the apostles says in Ephesians, "One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism so that means SOMEONE'S living a lie.  Some say baptism's "In Jesus name" and others "Father, Son, Holy Ghost and both can't be right. I've seen no baptisms in the "Father, son, Holy Ghost" method ANYWHERE else in scripture... somebody's going to hell.

Some say that women can't preach and then you have women that say they're called.... someone's living a lie.  I personally don't see any women elders, apostles, bishops or any thing else in the NT and scripture even addresses those women who assume church authority (Rev. 2:20-23), but then I'm called a "hater" because of what the word CLEARLY states.... somebody's going to hell.

Some say that theres three in heaven, and other say that theres only ONE Lord... someone's living a lie.  My bible tells me, "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" in Mark 12 and that the Father, Word and Holy Ghost are ONE in I John 5:7... somebody's going to hell.

There are those that believe you must live a holy and sanctified life before the Lord, then there are those that think you can live some filthy, degraded life and God understands your heart... someone's living a lie.  The Spirit tells me that "the soul that sinneth SHALL die" and my word backs that up... somebody's going to hell.

"You don't need to speak in tongues to have the Holy Ghost" says some, and other believers say that its the initial evidence of it.... someone's living a lie.  Jesus told Nicodemus, "You MUST be born of the water and the SPIRIT".  How clearer can he be?? On the Day of Pentecost when the first church was established, he scripture says,
Acts 2:4
"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Why is that so hard to comprehend?? Yet there are those that sees it as meaningless to salvation... somebody's going to hell.

Scripture talks against men with LONG hair, but brothers will dread it up or curl in down with no conviction. Paul addresses the plating of hair and modest apparel of believers, yet we'll spend $1200 for a suit and $800 for a dress just to be "sharp" and draw attention... somebody's living a lie.

 The parables that was taught by Jesus was not to entertain you people, but for understanding.  Somebody's going to be a foolish virgin when Jesus returns with NO oil in your lamp.  Sadly, some lamps haven't even been initially filled.  Two will be sleeping. One taken and the other left. Two will be in the field. One taken and the other left. Two will be on LGM. One taken and the other left.... somebody's going to hell.

I am in no way trying to be "holier than thou" and condenming folks to hell, but God's word is his word and you can try to walk around it, jump over it or crawl under it, but if you don't adhere to it, you'll pay the consequences of your actions. People do want they want to do and go to churches that concurs to their beliefs, but that doesn't change the absoluteness of God's word.   Everbody ain't right and theres going to be  whole groups of people crying, "Lord, Lord" on that great and terrible day.

Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell...

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 12:15:41 AM »
I now lay my site title of "Bishop" of Lgm to the honorable NJ Anderson.  Get him his cape, and his Apple Juice.

That about sums it up, the word of God is right, and there are some more things that one could post about this, but again I say, you summed it up.

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 12:16:33 AM »
Oh and by the way, Someone is living a lie, and I sho nuff know more than just one is going to hell!!!

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2006, 12:16:49 AM »
Um, OK.......at this point I'm just gonna get the popcorn!! :-\ :o ::)
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2006, 12:28:46 AM »
If I can't say a word i'll just wave my hands!!!   8) 8) 8)

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 12:36:08 AM »
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2006, 12:50:13 AM »
I came. I saw. Boy boy boy!! Bishop, WE GOTTA TALK!!!!!!!



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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 01:14:01 AM »
HALLELUJAH PRAISE THE LORD GLORY TO GOD AMEN!

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2006, 01:19:30 AM »
Ummmmmmm........AMEN!!!
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2006, 02:11:18 AM »
Wow! That's a lot. Well Bishop if you don't mind me assuming (and it's band to assume, trust me) you must be Apostolic (Holiness, UPC, COOLJC, etc...).

First, the reason behind all these denominations is the fact the even though the Word is infallible, there is no such thing as infallible interpretation. (Unless someone knows someone who's right about everything in the Bible). So to be fair everybody is "lying" and "everybody" is going to hell. But thank God for His GRACE.

Before I continue I grew up Apostolic so I can see where you are coming from.

Second, the whole issue about baptism in the name of F/S/HG and Jesus name...that is due to some interpreting Jesus's Great Commision literally and some interpreting Peter's Pentecost Sermon literally. I am all for being baptized in Jesus name. But, I also believe if one knows what being baptized in the name of F/S/HG implies that there is nothing wrong with that.

Now the whole issue of women preaching...whatever may be the meaning of praying and prophesying in respect to the man, they have precisely the same meaning in respect to the woman. The word "preach" literally means to prophesy in the sense of edification, exhortation, and comfort. And this kind of prophesying or teaching was predicted by Joel 2:28, and referred to by Peter (Acts 2:17). And, had there not been such gifts bestowed on woman, the prophecy could not have had its fulfilment.

Now the teaching of the Trinity...and before I continue, no the term "Trinity" isn't in the Bible like the tere "Rapture" isn't but it is implied. In no way does the idea of the Trinity take away from the Oneness of God. God is 3 in 1. I know it sounds crazy...it's like hearing 1+1+1=1...but that is part of the mystery of God. We can not hope to fully understand God's nature (unless you know someone who knows God inside and out like that!).

Now doc, you was preachin on the fact of a sanctified life. AMEN! The Bible says to present our bodies as a living sacrifice holy and acceptable unto God...which is true worship (NIV). Yes, santification is a process but you shall know a tree by it's fruit...yeah doc you preachin on that one.   :)

Mark 16:17 says "And these signs shall follow them that believe In my name shall they cast out devils they shall speak with new tongues..." Can we say that everyone you know who TRULY speaks in tongues are saved, even if they live a sinful lifestyle? So how can we say those who live a redeemed lifestyle and haven't spoken in tongues aren't saved? And if tonques can be evidence what about casting out devils? The verse says those who believe in my name shall cast out devils. So what about those who cast out devils but don't speak in tonges?  I've seen it myself and i'm many others have also. Jesus said it himself a house divided cannot stand. Jesus said "Satan cannot cast out Satan". What about those who speak in tongues and don't cast out devils? They are both signs.

When is hair considered long? Can hair truly keep us out the Kingdom? How do we know Jesus or any of the Apostles didn't have long hair?

These are just some things to think about. By the way, I am a minister in a starch Apostolic church. My pastor and bishops see no errancy in what I just said.

I hope this is taken in love, because I love everyone here. How? It's called AGAPE love.  ;) But you are right...someone's lying and somebody's going to hell--i just don't thing we have the say so as to who is going, that's left up to the Judge.  ;D

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2006, 03:29:25 AM »
Um, OK.......at this point I'm just gonna get the popcorn!! :-\ :o ::)

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2006, 04:20:23 AM »
...I love it when I hear folks say.."someone is going to hell".....it usually means....You are going to hell and I'm not...ha...ha...ha...well I would hate to be the bearer of bad news but that  was a horrible message.....the worse message I have ever heard....suggesting that things are clear that you know dag on well are not clear at all....Hellooooooo!!!!....that is why people are so confused......If it was soooooo clear...everyone would agree.....but it isnt ....is it?.....come on....just admit...say it out loud....like you are in AAA meeting.....The word of God is just not that clear....I know....the spirit will reveal it......blah ....blah....well news at 11 dude!........it appears that from the outside looking in......you probably think the spirit that is moving YOU is the right spirit....and of course.....you are not amonst the hell bound...DID I GET IT RIGHT?...DO I GET A COOKIE?.....but you are no clearer on the word than anyone else......

You put it together the way you were taught it...you justify your thoughts the way you were taught....and when you are finished you send everyone to hell but yourself........This type of dissertation is the reason for denominations ....not the solution to the one faith one baptism scripture....


you talk about hair and women preaching and speaking in tongues as if that is why Jesus came!....I tell you I have been a part of a few different churches in my life time....and this distresses me to no end!.....

I just hope that where ever you end up...hopefully heaven!......and you look to your left and your right and see all those heathens you sent the other way...you say......."oooops....my bad!"....dont forget....you can say that you are saved till you drop......but ya really wont know till you get there!
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2006, 04:24:43 AM »
,,,and on that note....please pass the popcorn!

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2006, 06:06:58 AM »
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2006, 06:29:19 AM »


PRAIZEHIM, START UP THE GRILL, WE'VE GOT A GOOD ONE, RIGHT HERE!!!



Hey guys, how's it going? You mind scootin' over just a tad. Thanks!  ;D

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2006, 07:35:05 AM »
The way i understand it, after john the baptist was comissioned... he didn't baptize in the name of the father, son, H.G..  he baptized in the name of Jesus.  And as I understand it, thats the way Jesus was baptized when he robed himself in flesh and came here to die for ours sins.  So if Jesus himself... were baptized in the name of Jesus..  why wouldn't you want to be?  IF thats the way he himself had it done.. it CANT BE WRONG.

and there IS but "ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM...".. which means.. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO BE WRONG... and SOMONE is going to hell.   The simple fact that Jesus himself is going to say to more than actually MAKE Heaven. "depart from me, I know you not"..  how do I know that?.. Because the path to hell is wider than that to HEAVEN.. the Bible also says that... 

I have SCREEPture for it.

I'm late to work, but I'm in no way finished here.. so.

To be continued.

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2006, 07:47:55 AM »
Bishop Anderson-

I ask that you address the issue (your stance) with woman preaching and men with long hair.  I mean I am just putting it out there... we have already crossed the line~~People, you should be ashamed :-\

Hey will you also clarify if it is sinful to remarry...  Because I was told one thing and I have heard other things...

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2006, 08:09:16 AM »
And before I say this I am in no way tryna get smart!

Joel 2:28 
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

so I am assuming that the daughters were referring to..men? The Lord showed me that in these last days he is going to begin to use people we never thought would be used. Yes women and teenagers. For so long many churches try to use scripture to back them up concerning women preachers.......and they only use new testament. And yes we stepped into a new covenant is in effect since Jesus died...BUT that doesnt mean the old testament is out the door...if that were the case tithing is out the door, Abrahams covenant with God is out the door, the list goes on and on. So with that said, I believe I understood what you were trying to say Bishop, HOWEVER, i dont agree with the WAY it was said. I showed that scripture because although it is not in the NT, it refers to today. And I am experiencing it. So God is using women in ministry and young people. Its time for the church to shut  down our traditions and allow God to do  him. If it aint God the proof is in the pudding. You wont see the holy ghost move, you wont see signs wonders and miracles. And I KNOW, Bishop NJ, you have seen God move so you can discern whether God is behind it or not. I guess thats all I have to say. Love yall.
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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2006, 08:48:38 AM »
And before I say this I am in no way tryna get smart!

Joel 2:28 
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:


A little word study....

Prophesy -----to declare the truths through the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit whether by prediction or otherwise..........Thus one may prophesy without being a prophet in the strict sense of the word.

Reference - The Complete Word Study Dictionary


When you pull scripture, study it in content and context, and also, find out what words mean in the original language. This particular passage is not stating that a woman would be in the shepherding role in the church.



Let me clarify before anyone mistake my response, I am not commenting on the original poster's comments, nor will I.

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Re: Someone's living a lie, somebody's going to hell.
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2006, 08:59:49 AM »
A little word study....

Prophesy -----to declare the truths through the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit whether by prediction or otherwise..........Thus one may prophesy without being a prophet in the strict sense of the word.

Reference - The Complete Word Study Dictionary


When you pull scripture, study it in content and context, and also, find out what words mean in the original language. This particular passage is not stating that a woman would be in the shepherding role in the church.



Let me clarify before anyone mistake my response, I am not commenting on the original poster's comments, nor will I.



Oh I know mamaT lol, i knew wut it meant....I guess I should clarify too, I was saying there is nothing wrong with women preaching the gospel. I do however understand a woman must be submitted to someone, and that is usually there husband, who is most likely the pastor (such as urself). There are exceptions though. Well this isnt often, BUT, my dear friend Pastor Brenda Timberlake is the pastor at her church. Now many of you knew or heard of her husband, Pastor Mack Timberlake, who went home to be with the Lord a few years ago. Anyway, since she is not remarried she is still pastoring her church...I dont think thats wrong. All in all, i understood that MaMaT and prolly shoulda clarified wut i was sayin....thanks..


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