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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2008, 11:24:18 AM »
Luxuries they are. How does temporary punishment of no usage of luxury items going to back your teachings to respect rules and regulations? After the fact, he did break them, right?  


The same way it works for a good number of folks in prison.

Now, yes, there are hardened, career criminals; for them, something more would need to be done.


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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2008, 11:25:23 AM »
Bad or good is a perception (opinion), which can be altered. Experience is something, which has been lived or seen from direct participation in events or activities.



That opinion, of bad or good, is usually shaped and based on experiences.
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2008, 11:29:20 AM »

That opinion, of bad or good, is usually shaped and based on experiences.

That is the truth. It always amuses me when people see the two as being mutually exclusive.  :-\ :-\
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2008, 11:30:52 AM »
OK, umm, so what exactly are you advocating? Are you saying that there is no point in punishing the child by taking away privileges?

Frankly its the PRINCIPLE, not so much the item per se, that serves as a buttress for the punishment. Plain talk: Its not about the PS3, its about the attitude towards rules and regulations. If the child cannot obey them, then the child will suffer consequences.

Children cannot understand such abstract ideas as "obedience" and "consequences" without there being a tangible, physical manifestation of those abstract ideas.     


I do not advocate otiose disciplinary tactics.
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2008, 11:33:35 AM »
When he completes his work & goes back to school. I teach my children to respect rules and regulations, if I don't make them see the error of there ways the court system surely will. A ps3 & satelite tv are luxuries not necessity right?

Thats what my pops did. I would have rather gotten a beating than have all my electronics taken away. The worst punisment was when They removed my bedroom door. Not fun for a 16 year old. Thank God I moved out

Luxuries they are. How does temporary punishment of no usage of luxury items going to back your teachings to respect rules and regulations? After the fact, he did break them, right?  

I think it works better Than beetings. Beatings last for for 5 minutes, but not having your Stereo, Car, Keyboard TV for MONTHS hurts more than a whoopin

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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2008, 11:37:56 AM »
My son recently got a day suspension for insubordination, so instead of whippin him, he had to get up at 6am & rake my 1/2 acre backyard lost his ps3, satelite tv & if he has a bad attitude he will lose his car. I refused to wear myself out hittin a kid who is 6'2 270 lb football player :D

That's my kinda punishment, Pastor Jeff.  

My teenager had to do parent-assigned community service if she broke certain rules, which often included going into the neighborhood and picking up trash off the street.  There comes a time when they're too big to hit, but still need to know that there's REAL punishment out there waiting for people who break rules... if you can't handle this punishment, surely you can't handle what awaits you in prison!!!

I've taken all sorts of things from my daughter.  I won't say it all here because y'all might think I'm crazy!!  LOL!  But, the bottom line is that in my house, if you don't follow my rules, I don't have to "bless" you with anything more than the basic necessities.... and you betta believe that, or I'll prove it!

Luxuries they are. How does temporary punishment of no usage of luxury items going to back your teachings to respect rules and regulations? After the fact, he did break them, right?  

Temporarily taking away items (or freedoms) that children enjoy is usually a wake-up call to them to show them that worse punishment lies ahead if they don't get themselves together and follow the rules.  It's a way of reinforcing that they have no choice but to abide by the rules, or there will be consequences.  It's a way of demonstrating that for the rest of their lives, they will have to follow rules or face consequences. It shows them that they will be rewarded for being upstanding "citizens" (of the home and in the community), and they will be chastised for breaking rules.

More specifically, there was a time that I took my daughter's wardrobe away from her.  She had, on several occasions, been caught changing into a friend's borrowed clothes at school.  I had warned her several times, and on the last time, it became clear to me that she didn't have an appreciation of her wardrobe, so I took it from her temporarily.  By the time that "punishment" was done, she was begging for her clothes, and willing to do just about anything to prove that she was responsible and deserving, and that she would follow the rules I set for her.
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2008, 11:39:16 AM »
That is the truth. It always amuses me when people see the two as being mutually exclusive.  :-\ :-\

It's oblivious to me that people think not.

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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2008, 11:40:32 AM »
The worst punisment was when They removed my bedroom door. Not fun for a 16 year old. Thank God I moved out

Did moving out make you behave any better?
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2008, 11:41:56 AM »

I do not advocate otiose disciplinary tactics.

That is really interesting.  :-\

Well you have the right to your own opinion.

But i have to ask, what form of disciplinary action do you not consider "otiose" ? What i am really curious about is HOW the taking away of rights and privileges translates to an "otiose" idea?


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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2008, 11:45:10 AM »
It's oblivious to me that people think not.



OK i'm REALLY sorry ya'll, but this makes no kind of sense to me anyway i turn it. .  :-\ :-\

Did you mean to say "It's obvious to me that people do not think." ?
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2008, 11:46:03 AM »

I do not advocate otiose disciplinary tactics.

1. Otiosity ( ::)) is highly subjective.

2. Do you have children?

3. If yes, how do you discipline them when they break rules?
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2008, 11:47:26 AM »
That is really interesting.  :-\

Well you have the right to your own opinion.

But i have to ask, what form of disciplinary action do you not consider "otiose" ? What i am really curious about is HOW the taking away of rights and privileges translates to an "otiose" idea?




Producing/serving no useful results/purpose.
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2008, 11:49:11 AM »
Did moving out make you behave any better?

That was way back in High school, I was on punishment for having crappy grades. I'm in college now, my grades are still kinda crappy but as long as I pass and get my degree I dont really care ......


I do not advocate otiose disciplinary tactics.

You got a brutha sittin here with a dictionary. NE Way, Different things work for different people, so what may be "otiose" for your family, may not be to somone elses'.

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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2008, 11:49:53 AM »
Producing/serving no useful results/purpose.

He didn't ask what the word "otiose" means.  He asked you how you consider taking away rights and privileges to be otiose, and he asked what form of discipline to you consider to be useful or productive?
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2008, 11:51:56 AM »
Producing/serving no useful results/purpose.

While you are at it, do you mind givin us a pronunciation?

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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2008, 11:52:09 AM »
Producing/serving no useful results/purpose.


You gave me the definition of otiosity but no clear answer man.

You know what, never mind. It's not that important.
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2008, 12:00:25 PM »
You gave me the definition of otiosity but no clear answer man.




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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2008, 12:05:47 PM »
I do not advocate otiose disciplinary tactics.

Neither does anyone on this board. ;)
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2008, 12:06:54 PM »
That was way back in High school, I was on punishment for having crappy grades. I'm in college now, my grades are still kinda crappy but as long as I pass and get my degree I dont really care .......


See, it ain't all the teacher's fault. ::)
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Re: Child Discipline Questions
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2008, 12:22:06 PM »
That was way back in High school, I was on punishment for having crappy grades. I'm in college now, my grades are still kinda crappy but as long as I pass and get my degree I dont really care ......

Ninja, you a mess. LOL  :D :D :D :D :D

Dude, You wont get far with Women, calling them "man"

Now how you gone jess assoooome that person is a woman?  :-\ :-\
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