Topic: President Obama--Hope or a Hate for the Black Community (Read 2533 times)

Loopy · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:37:05 PM »

Quote from: sjonathan02 on July 21, 2009, 04:31:59 PM

$:-\$ I see you're heated, my brotha.

What u talkin' bout, Willis???

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:37:40 PM »

Quote from: Loopy on July 21, 2009, 04:37:05 PM

What u talkin' bout, Willis???

spider5 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:47:45 PM »

I am far from heated I love a good debate. Got nothing for love for all my LGM family. Don't take nothing personal, I know I don't, our opinions are our opinions. We have freedom of speech. No animosity here, I work in a hostile environment, nothing can be said on this site to hurt me.

under13 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:53:03 PM »

spider5 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:56:51 PM »

Quote from: Loopy on July 21, 2009, 04:28:14 PM

With all due respect, I did read your entire post, and you are absolutely right. There was a lot more ignorance your post than just that one statement, but that was the one that jumped out as being patently false, so I decided to correct it. I'm not here to "defend" Obama, but I guess the educator in me wants people to have logical, sensible and fact-based arguments for a position and not throw around pointless generalizations and anomalistic examples (i.e. people thinking they won't have to wait in line behind white people anymore). People vote for various candidates for WHATEVER reason, and that's their right. This is NOT, however, unique to Obama and should not be portrayed as such.

That is what someone said, in reference to him winning the election. Tha was ignorant for the girl saying that. you are totally missing the point, in which there is no need to even debate with you anymore. I can see you hitting the key hard to show your frustration. However, you're making your own self mad, because you have not stopped to understand what I was saying. You just read what I said. you know what I wrote, but don't understand what I wrote. Knowledge + understanding = wisdom, which is something that you are lacking from my statement, because you totally missed my point all together, which creates confusion on your part.

Loopy · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:12:08 PM »

Quote from: spider5 on July 21, 2009, 04:56:51 PM

That is what someone said, in reference to him winning the election. Tha was ignorant for the girl saying that. you are totally missing the point, in which there is no need to even debate with you anymore. I can see you hitting the key hard to show your frustration. However, you're making your own self mad, because you have not stopped to understand what I was saying. You just read what I said. you know what I wrote, but don't understand what I wrote. Knowledge + understanding = wisdom, which is something that you are lacking from my statement, because you totally missed my point all together, which creates confusion on your part.

I am not heated. HUNGRY, maybe, but not heated. You don't know me (as has been said), so it's understandable. We probably missed each other's point. It's all good, though.

I do , however, find it VERY interesting that you posted this:

Quote from: spider5 on July 21, 2009, 04:47:45 PM

I am far from heated I love a good debate. Got nothing for love for all my LGM family. Don't take nothing personal, I know I don't, our opinions are our opinions. We have freedom of speech. No animosity here, I work in a hostile environment, nothing can be said on this site to hurt me.

...and then immediately afterwards you posted this:

Quote from: spider5 on July 21, 2009, 04:50:35 PM

Loopy time for you to grow up. I am not the one

VERY interesting indeed. James 1:8 much? Oh well, time for me to go tend to "grown's folks" bidness! I think I'm feelin a cheeseburger and fries right about now!

B3Wannabe · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2009, 05:19:37 PM »

Quote from: spider5 on July 21, 2009, 04:56:51 PM

That is what someone said, in reference to him winning the election. Tha was ignorant for the girl saying that. you are totally missing the point, in which there is no need to even debate with you anymore. I can see you hitting the key hard to show your frustration. However, you're making your own self mad, because you have not stopped to understand what I was saying. You just read what I said. you know what I wrote, but don't understand what I wrote. Knowledge + understanding = wisdom, which is something that you are lacking from my statement, because you totally missed my point all together, which creates confusion on your part.

I don't think anyone is missing your point. You said he supported "gay marriage" which is false, as Loopy pointed out. He was agreeing with you on the its-all-about-to-end point--at least from my interpretation of his post.

We had a huge discussion about this last year. If you're going to disregard a candidate based on gay marriage, then you need to disregard ones that have offended the other biblical principals as well.

SavnBass · « **Reply #27 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:00:14 PM »

Dusting this sucka off.... since err uhhh ... It's almost that time again .. So where are we with hindsight? Who would have thought that come this time around ... after McCain/Palin that we'd be seeing Romney/________ or even more incredulous ... Gingrich/_______

Are we better off or not?

Personally I think we are .. and if I had to choose between the candidaters as they stand today with either of the republicans.. I'd still go with the president. Given the field I don't think there is a more qualified candidate ..

nessalynn77 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:08:54 PM »

I wasn't so sure about the President the first time around, but even with all of the negative press, he is head and shoulders above anything the republican party has come up with. I really wonder what's wrong with them, that they can't come up with a decent mainstream candidate to give Obama a good run for his money. All of the candidates they have are inflammatory, polarizing characters. That's not the way to go right now, IMO. I foresee them having a hard time reuniting the party for the general election after this primary dissolves into an all out war.

blyempowered · « **Reply #29 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:40:36 PM »

AND to me Romney saying he wasn't concerned about "very poor" with Gingrich's "food stamps" stuff? Even though I've always made the case that Obama getting a 2nd term would be challenging, I think Obama (depending on unemployment statistics_ is headed for a 2nd term.

SMH!

phbrown · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:48:17 PM »

Quote from: blyempowered on February 01, 2012, 07:40:36 PM

AND to me Romney saying he wasn't concerned about "very poor" with Gingrich's "food stamps" stuff? Even though I've always made the case that Obama getting a 2nd term would be challenging, I think Obama (depending on unemployment statistics_ is headed for a 2nd term.

SMH!

why are you shaking your head?

blyempowered · « **Reply #31 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:41:05 PM »

Quote from: phbrown on February 01, 2012, 07:48:17 PM

why are you shaking your head?

1. It's a habit LOL!

2. That this country would support anyone that does not care about the very poor people...SMH!

nessalynn77 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2012, 01:08:47 AM »

Quote from: blyempowered on February 01, 2012, 09:41:05 PM

1. It's a habit LOL!

2. That this country would support anyone that does not care about the very poor people...SMH!

If you read the context, that's not what he was saying. He was saying he's not concerned about them because the systems in place make sure they have food and housing, etc. The working class are suffering in this economy but don't qualify for any help. Don't just listen to the sound bytes, listen to the whole story.

However, his policies still only help the very rich, so now after we listen to the whole story, we have to hear what the actions are saying and determine if it lines up.

LaylaMonroe · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2012, 06:14:38 AM »

Thank you, Nessa. After correcting people all day, I finally got tired of saying anything so I gave up. Mitt Romney did NOT simply say that he doesn't care about the very poor and it is SO shockingly ignorant to keep quoting and repeating that over and over. I saw that quote from the most responsible journalists I follow on Twitter, even the non-political ones, and from many socially and politically conscious pastors. It was disappointing, to say the least.

We really need to do better and stop typing so dern much. Read more, type less.

nessalynn77 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2012, 07:40:51 AM »

Yeah, and it makes the election about spin rather than the facts. I can take clips from speeches and make Barack Obama sound like the devil, too. It's not hard, but it is hard to listen to the facts, understand the context, determine if they are being truthful, and then make informed decisions.

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 02, 2012, 08:02:12 AM »

Quote from: nessalynn77 on February 01, 2012, 05:08:54 PM

I wasn't so sure about the President the first time around, but even with all of the negative press, he is head and shoulders above anything the republican party has come up with. I really wonder what's wrong with them, that they can't come up with a decent mainstream candidate to give Obama a good run for his money. All of the candidates they have are inflammatory, polarizing characters. That's not the way to go right now, IMO. I foresee them having a hard time reuniting the party for the general election after this primary dissolves into an all out war.

I may disagree in that many folks are not as pleased with Obama as they believed they would be. As a result, folks may vote for anyone who isn't Obama. $:-\$

LaylaMonroe · « **Reply #36 on:** February 02, 2012, 08:08:41 AM »

And still, people are quoting and RT that stupid Romney soundbyte this very morning. Smh. I quit Twitter.

sjonathan02 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 02, 2012, 08:14:20 AM »

Quote from: LaylaMonroe on February 02, 2012, 08:08:41 AM

And still, people are quoting and RT that stupid Romney soundbyte this very morning. Smh. I quit Twitter.

For like, what, three minutes or so?

LaylaMonroe · « **Reply #38 on:** February 02, 2012, 08:23:23 AM »

Probably.

Actually, anybody can tell you, this week was really the first time I ever got into Twitter. I never really liked it. Still don't love it, but I have a couple of friends who really brighten my day with much laughter via Twitter so I started hanging out there a lil more.

Arkhams Finest · « **Reply #39 on:** February 02, 2012, 08:49:29 AM »

Mitt Romney chose his words poorly, but it's clear to anyone who is concerned with the TRUTH that his quote was taken out of context:

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“I’m not concerned about the very poor; we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it. I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90 percent, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling, and I’ll continue to take that message across the nation.”

Whether he means that or not is another issue, but it's clear that taking the first clause of that first sentence and parading it around is deceptive.

Do you know why Obama won? Not just because he's black. Blacks don't make up NEAR enough of the population to carry him to the win. I believe he won because McCain/Palin used the same silly word games.

Instead of focusing solely on issues they said he "palls around with terrorists". It's clear to anyone with even a little sense that the "palls around with terrorists" line + questioning his place of birth was meant to prey on people's fear of radical muslims.

Barack Obama. Interesting name. Sounds muslim. He also hangs with terrorists and may not even be a US Citizen. Maybe he's really an Al Qaeda operative.

It backfired.

People with even a little bit of sense saw through it and were turned off by it. It insulted their intelligence. Obama was speaking of hope and change and here was McCain/Palin, throwing low blows and using every dirty trick they could.

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