Topic: Why won't Organists show tight Chords? (Read 10599 times)

waydrummer · « **on:** January 09, 2005, 03:06:55 PM »

I just wanna know how come alot of organists don't want to show people tight stuff too? Yeah they will show you songs, but it seems like they want to hide the tight stuff. Its like they are scared you will "steal" it from them.
Even on websites, they will show chords but they are just not the phat progressions and runs. Does any one know what I'm talkin bout?

B3Wannabe · « **Reply #1 on:** January 09, 2005, 06:03:09 PM »

I think because, in a forum like this, most of the people asking are beginners, so they won't be able to play or won't understand it anyway.

aljeres · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2005, 11:44:30 PM »

Quote from: waydrummer

I just wanna know how come alot of organists don't want to show people tight stuff too? Yeah they will show you songs, but it seems like they want to hide the tight stuff. Its like they are scared you will "steal" it from them.
Even on websites, they will show chords but they are just not the phat progressions and runs. Does any one know what I'm talkin bout?

a lot of stuff happens in actual times, a lot of organists cant seem to really write it down! but we can teach you how to do it!

then you can creat ya own phat stuff!

4hisglory · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2005, 08:36:58 AM »

I think that "in person" organist dont show you anything because they are insecure.

"On websites", I think that you can find really good stuff, but its really not what they give, its how you play it. If you type of a progression and give it to 1000 organist, they will play it 1000 different ways.

Dooley · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2005, 11:56:33 AM »

Also, if these 'phat' progressions are what is making that organist great and on top, they want to remain great and on top...so they will show you the water down version. However, Im blessed to not have any of those types of organists around me...lol

JoyCH · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2005, 12:26:36 PM »

If you are looking for something special - there are plenty of musicians on here (you could order from) that could make you a specialized tape.

Joy

ddw4e · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2005, 12:41:20 PM »

Speaking of tape if you know u goin somewhere that there is a real good organist...take a tape recorder with you and try to get it that way....they get protective on what they want to show but the tape never lies!!

Dooley · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2005, 11:23:22 PM »

Quote from: ddw4e

Speaking of tape if you know u goin somewhere that there is a real good organist...take a tape recorder with you and try to get it that way....they get protective on what they want to show but the tape never lies!!

Thats how I learned...I still do that all the time. thats a great Idea and you can learn whatever you want to off of the tapes

B3Wannabe · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2005, 11:51:54 PM »

I've gone digital. I have an mp3 recorder.

waydrummer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2005, 04:40:29 PM »

Thanks for the post I think I'll get a mini disc recorder!

ChicagoFlava · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2005, 06:04:52 PM »

let me give some musicians alittle advice to live by? let me ask a question? if you where hungry havent eaten all day and you finally get your hands on a bag of chips, do you REALLY want to share them with someone who asks for some? the answer is no!! and why? because the truth being, its all you have! The same goes for musicians! If a musician is not willing to show you the "tight chords", is because its, all he has is his few tight chords! And if this is the case the musician is really not that good! You can be a good basketball dribbler doesnt mean your ready for the NBA! A good musician has more than a few tight chords, he is well versed, well trained on all aspects of his craft not just afew tight chords! Im a pro musician im also a Jazz degreed musician. I can tell in the first 30 seconds if someone is a good musician, or a not so good one, but is "faking the funk" so to speak! Point 1 if a musician sits on the organ and plays every scale he knows in a 30 sec time frame, he is a "faker" A good musician would never do this and why, theres no need too. Agood musician is heard, not shown. You dont have to prove to any one you are good, it will be heard if its there! Some of your greatest compliments will come at a time when you just play from your gift and not your flesh and you recieve a compliment in a time you was not looking for one. So many younger musicians play for compliments. So my advice as a teacher professional, is to learn all aspects of your craft, not just a few "tight chords" you can show off with and impress! Ive played as a freelance musician for 12 years with some of gospels and Jazzbiggest names! Im coming off a 6 month tour with Dave Koz! Let me tell all aspiring pro's a secret. Artist dont care how many chords you know? THe fancy chords arent as important as you think, what is important to them is"foundation, and accuracy playing the correct chords! I know chords inside out i have a music degree, and when playing jazz and other gigs i play i do branch out with nice chords, but it is more important to play the correct chords than "tight chords" tight chords gets you seen and noticed by your peers, correct chords and playing disicpline gets you noticed by the people than can put you some where with your music! Keep this at mind and heart and you will achieve great things, good luck to all!!

Play because you love christ, dont love christ because you can play!

leedobbs · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2005, 11:04:21 AM »

I just wanted to say that am a fairly new musician (drums, 3 yrs, guitar, 1 yr, piano/keyboard, 1 yr) and I don't think that anything posted on these type of sites is hard to understand or play. After all, 'I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.' Maybe I'm blessed with a mind to comprehend music, but I think it's easy and fun. I just can't find people willing to let me know these supposed 'outrageous' chords and progressions for jammin' songs. Newbies know a lot more than what you think.

In Christ,
Lee

ddw4e · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2005, 11:45:46 AM »

Quote from: B3Wannabe

I've gone digital. I have an mp3 recorder.

Analog is better!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Just playing...What kind of mp3 recorder you have?

jamaicanbaan · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2005, 06:29:35 PM »

yes I know what you're talking about. I'm having some issues with getting feedback mylef. I guess maybe they're just lazy. Who knows. They might even be keeping thight chords and progressions from people because they mat think that they're giving away gold. But some musicians have some level inwhich they will not permit themselves to share information. It's wrong to do this but a lot of musicians are like that.........

Eggs · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2005, 11:48:00 PM »

I'm not one of those musicians, and I hear what you folks are saying, being new myself.

Now, there are times in our development, where someone tosses us a bone that gives us a big break through to the next level, this is true.

But for the most part, at least in my experience, we sit on a wealth of knowledge without really getting it into our fingers. We have got to work hard at what we already know... practice it, pray on it, learn to use it in ways that the people giving it to us, haven't even thought of.

Try it, you'll be surprised. You might come up with some 'phat' chords of your own... and then you can keep them to yourself!

Sites like this are great, but we have to watch out, because we can end up spending too much time online, and not enough time practiciing!

God bless,
Eggs

b3maniac · « **Reply #15 on:** January 15, 2005, 12:23:58 AM »

Perfect the basics! Apply yourself to your gift and you will increase in knowledge and ability! Understand the music and you will be able to create your own phat chords as stated earlier. Once I started studying music theory and I began to understand the music, then I started becoming very creative with my own stuff. At that point, I did'nt want too many people showing me stuff. I get a better feel of accomplishment when I learn it on my own! Music can be taught but styles are developed!
I don't consider myself to be the best that there is. In fact I know I'm not but I see myself developing a style of my own that is mine by way of developement and being creative. Practice!

JesusSavesPNW · « **Reply #16 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:37:51 PM »

Knowing or watching tight chords will do you no good if you don't know how to go into the chord and how to come out of the chord.

waydrummer · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2005, 02:34:49 PM »

I know that that. I know the basics. I just need some one to show me
different chord arrangements.

brrsndr · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:30:45 PM »

I support and agree with all that has been posted about why this occurs and how to improve your own music, but let's just be real with waydrummer. There are just some selfish musicians out here. Let me tell you all a true story. I was once at a choir's anniversary and I just happened to admire another musician' playing style. (He had some phat chords). Don't you know that man bent over the organ so I couldn't see his fingering. But when the brother found out that I had a B3, piano & drum set in my living room he wanted to hang out & practice with me!

waydrummer · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2005, 06:31:46 PM »

Thank You might point exactly!

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