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Offline Gibby

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Soul Playing....
« on: January 17, 2009, 09:44:48 PM »
Listen to all of it first...man got some serious chops!

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 10:03:47 PM »
Oh good, this is a gospel song. When the first words came out "Close your eyes and let it go..." i was like lawd what is this brother postin' up in here? Let what go?  :D :D

But yeah that is hot man. I am going to sit down and learn those licks. You hear them everywhere.
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 01:25:48 PM »
Oh good, this is a gospel song. When the first words came out "Close your eyes and let it go..." i was like lawd what is this brother postin' up in here? Let what go?  :D :D

But yeah that is hot man. I am going to sit down and learn those licks. You hear them everywhere.
Gospel?What gospel song is that.Whatever,Gibby that is off the hook.Bro,if you learn some of those licks,please post ;D

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2009, 07:12:38 PM »
wow!  8) who is that brotha
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 06:26:51 AM »
Umm... it's Little Wing with one chord changed...

Good licks in there, but nothing that's too out there.

Mostly Princatonics pentatonics and stuff.  ;)

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 07:45:53 AM »
Yup, it's the first three chords to "Little Wing".
He does some nice Em pentatonic stuff in there. Nothing out of the ordinary...all of the classic blues/rock licks...but I wish that he'd identify that F chord better by playing over it using something OTHER THAN Em pentatonic. F lydian would work great since it's the same as E phrygian (which contains E minor pentatonic), but it would break the pentatonic monotony a bit.
Just my opinion.
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 08:22:48 AM »
Yup, it's the first three chords to "Little Wing".
He does some nice Em pentatonic stuff in there. Nothing out of the ordinary...all of the classic blues/rock licks...but I wish that he'd identify that F chord better by playing over it using something OTHER THAN Em pentatonic. F lydian would work great since it's the same as E phrygian (which contains E minor pentatonic), but it would break the pentatonic monotony a bit.
Just my opinion.

agree with jay and dave....

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 09:22:44 AM »
Yup, it's the first three chords to "Little Wing".
He does some nice Em pentatonic stuff in there. Nothing out of the ordinary...all of the classic blues/rock licks...but I wish that he'd identify that F chord better by playing over it using something OTHER THAN Em pentatonic. F lydian would work great since it's the same as E phrygian (which contains E minor pentatonic), but it would break the pentatonic monotony a bit.
Just my opinion.

Can you please explain?
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 09:58:58 AM »
Can you please explain?

Let me clarify my question. Do you mean that when playing a pentatonic scale you can play ANY of the minor modes (lydian, phrygian e.t.c) to add color? Would it sound good or does it depend on the context?
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 10:40:51 AM »
Let me clarify my question. Do you mean that when playing a pentatonic scale you can play ANY of the minor modes (lydian, phrygian e.t.c) to add color? Would it sound good or does it depend on the context?

It's ALL context.  ;D
What I'm saying is that all of his licks are centered around Em pentatonic (and some around Em diatonic/G major diatonic). Everything he's playing is wanting to resolve to an E root. This is cool on the Em, G and Am chords as they're all in the key of e minor (or G major, take your pick). The F chord, though, is a bit of a substitution and outside of the key of Em or G, diatonically speaking. Playing Em pentatonic over the F chord is very safe. Very vanilla. To me, the soloing doesn't go anywhere after a short time...although at 6:30 he does change the tonality just a bit, but then he goes back to being safe.
If I were king  ;D  what I'd do is play licks from the F lydian scale over that F chord. Not only does this add a few different notes that are not being played in the Em pent. wanking, it changes the tonality to the key of C (F lydian is the 4th scale degree of C major). F lydian would work over the Am chord, too.

When playing pentatonic minor you can NOT play just any of the minor modes, but the inverse is somewhat true; when playing phrygian, dorian or aeolian mode you CAN play pentatonic minor. You can NOT for locrian. Where you play the various modes depends on the chord and resolution of the chord.

All this stuff aside, the guy is jamming his heart out and there's a lot of what he's doing that'd be great inspiration for those looking to adopt this style into their playing.

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 12:04:17 PM »
Yea,i thought the solo was really nice.I do not know if i could remember all those notes for a solo.I thought guitar dave hit it right on the nose,he was doing the same licks over,and over.

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 12:09:24 PM »
Yea,i thought the solo was really nice.I do not know if i could remember all those notes for a solo.I thought guitar dave hit it right on the nose,he was doing the same licks over,and over.

And it's no different than any other solid blues/rock player would do.
It's good stuff. If you get something from it, study up and borrow those licks for your own self.  ;D
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 12:36:19 PM »
 :)
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »
Dave, I think I'm going to have to copy your post and read it like three times a day to get it to stick to my memory.

I'm the must UNmodal player I know. There are a lot of you dudes that put me to shame with all your theory, and big-words lol  ;)

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 08:00:28 PM »
I'm the must UNmodal player I know. There are a lot of you dudes that put me to shame with all your theory, and big-words lol  ;)


I am just like you man. I know my modes but i don't bother using them. ;DI will need you to watch this video. I loved it and it inspired me to learn my modes and apply them.

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 08:10:56 PM »
that's exactly how i learned them...as far as their "color" or "sound".....also how i decided which modes i really dug the sound of and which just weren't usable to me.

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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2009, 08:54:44 PM »
that's exactly how i learned them...as far as their "color" or "sound".....also how i decided which modes i really dug the sound of and which just weren't usable to me.

Same here. Like Satch, I used to just sit and play various modes over and over to get familiar with the intervals and the mood of the scale.
The more you do this kind of stuff, the easier and more recognizable it all becomes.
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2009, 09:19:16 PM »
Same here. Like Satch, I used to just sit and play various modes over and over to get familiar with the intervals and the mood of the scale.
The more you do this kind of stuff, the easier and more recognizable it all becomes.

**Nervous laugh**

Uhh Dave, you said "Satch". I...i think you mean His Royal Guitarness?

You are forgiven. ;D

 
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2009, 10:46:53 PM »
I am just like you man. I know my modes but i don't bother using them. ;DI will need you to watch this video. I loved it and it inspired me to learn my modes and apply them..

Good video  :)
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Re: Soul Playing....
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2009, 11:11:00 PM »
**Nervous laugh**

Uhh Dave, you said "Satch". I...i think you mean His Royal Guitarness?

You are forgiven. ;D

 
you mean, his "royal been playing the same 3 songs with different titles on every cd for 20 yearsness"?? lol...i used to love Joe, but man has he gotten repetitive to me...
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